Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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Nice Gifts for birthday

Mountain View, CA

#33072 Mar 18, 2014
i still rememer my last Christmas gifts received from my friends and families ,which bought from a online shop called BUISTORE CO,
i like my gifts very much so nice of them!
hope next month when birthday coming , will get surprise too!

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33073 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, I didn't understand you were talking about buildings. the first churches did meet in peoples homes or shops. England may have been far enough from the persecution of Rome to be able to safely build an open house of worship.
Oh yes yes that is true... I should have made that question more clear.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33074 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You just described my mother. That was her to a "T".
Question: So are you saying that I remind you of your mother?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#33075 Mar 18, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
Question: So are you saying that I remind you of your mother?
No, that Pearls description did.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#33076 Mar 18, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
One of my sons and his wife come and take care of things for me the best they can... I can't do it myself and I pay them as much as I can... and I just do the best I can.
Have you looked into home health care through SSI? You should easily qualilfy.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33077 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you looked into home health care through SSI? You should easily qualilfy.
No I haven't... a health care worker that used to set up home care advised me to look into home health care... my daughter in law was going to look into it for me. She said if they would have done it in the hospital like they were supposed to... I would have had it then... but now it will probably take 3 or 4 months...

I just figure you deal with what you got the best you can sometimes and that is all you can do.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33078 Mar 18, 2014
I went to the spine dr the other he showed me the mri where the rods pulled out... they couldn't even use the same holes for the new screws... I know my mouth just dropped I was like your kidding in my head.... all bc the attending did not lock the screws... the dr gave me part of the titanium rods and screws he took out I was like that is so cool... then I seen the hole and I was like you have got to be kidding me... but the rods extend over those holes now and they had to put stronger ones in...

I'm going to ask for both of the last surgery reports during my next appt.

When I got out of surgery you know they screw you head down so you don't jump if they touch a nerve.... they had to do another lamenectomy and a lamonotomy... spelling on those... bc the attending didn't lock the screws with the 11 inch rods... I definitely can feel a big difference in this last surgery... I just feel broken... and it's disappointing... and I just feel tired. Church was uplifting yesterday... it was like the talk was directed toward me.
concerned in Brasil

Europe

#33079 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
It says there was no death before they sinned. Millions of dinosaurs bones and oil fields alone prove that wrong. It took longer than one day to form the sun. Mankind has been on Earth longer than 6,000 years. You stick with a fairytale if you want, I'll stick with the facts. You may now return to sticking your head in the sand.
How could Eve say to the Serpent that God told her she would die if she ate the fruit with out knowing what death was, how could she fear this if she did not know what it was??

God said they would surely die not animals non spiritual beings, when death entered the world in context it was for the human race. Animals did Adam and Eve knew what death was.

leafs fell of trees and washed down streams and made the oil you type on. Again we have know Idea how long Adam and Eve where in the Garden before death entered their bodies. It could have be billion billion years for all we know and to them it seemed like a blink of the eye.

But after they sinned the world would now produce diereses and thorns etc and they now would have to toil the land to feed themselves.

But again before the fall animals could have easily died most likely did.

And you forget about the flood that killed billions of animals to make the oil. BTW I am offshore drilling for the black stuff as I write, many geologist believe oil does not form over billions of years that is only one theory. As we see with ROV's today at 3500 meters under water rivers flowing into thermal caves going deep into the abyss of the earth taking tons and tons of dead organic material with them from the sea bed floor, the theory is when it gets down in the mantle super heated Oil is formed in 100s of years and migrates up. fields they thought were exhausted 80 years ago now are producing again.

And you again try to measure how many days it took to make the sun but days did not exist till the sun existed.

Best you get a degree in the Sciences

As of today the recent cosmetology experiment at Harvard is proving the big bang and the expansion of the universe to an astronomical size occurred Instantly, so quick beyond it is beyond our compression, suns stars planets traveling distances so quick its beyond compression and the ripples of this explosion have twisted light that can only be explained by this being fact.

To be a christian is to believe in and follow Jesus.

He believed in the Genesis account as the NT reveals.
If you don't believe that blessings, but for the record you are no more christian than LDS.

The fact you know not of this, condone men inserting their penis's in the rectums of other men as an act of love, denying the very words of the errant Bible Jesus no less proves you are a Phony.

Truth matters you don't

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33080 Mar 18, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Are you that guy that opposes slave labor, yet buys all your shirts at Walmart? I'm betting no, you're not. In fact I'm betting you're the guy that sees it as an economic win for all involved. Or, are you the guy who doesn't think money funds or amplifies speech? You know you can still find SAMBO'S in California, they only changed the logo slightly, no more tigers chasing terrified boys.
I'm still not 100% convinced that you're not another profile of Dana. You mirror more of his twisted BS than any other profile on all of Topix that I have noted.
I know you missed it because you have great problems in understanding the difference between what is wrote and what you want what was wrote to mean. And that is where your really twisted BS comes into play as you proved it in this post.
So let me spell it out for you.
I don't support hetero marriage or homo marriage. I support a right to marriage as much as I support a right to being single. But I will support a person's right to vote and have an opinion in spite of the opposition they'll face for it. That's the type guy I am. Do you need any more grade school level explanations?
Karger like Nomo and all their dictator type mentalities have become the enemy they once fought against that did as they now do. If someone has an opposing opinion that disagrees with homosexuals and marriage, homosexuals and their supporters like Karger and Nomo now punish those people for their oppositional position. They boycott them if their a business. If their a person, they ridicule them, reveal other things about them to cause mental and or physical attacks by others.
People like Karger and Nomo see absolutely nothing wrong with becoming verbally ugly and vindictive and prejudicial and deeply bigoted against people that won't think as they do. It's a dictatorship thing. If you don't think and do as the Karger and Nomos of the world, suffer the consequences. And they see this type attitude as well and good and can't see the mental sickness of it at all.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33081 Mar 18, 2014
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Even fred isn't dropping it. The cult made soo many enemies fighting prop h8..they will never live it down. Fighting for equality is squashing bigots rights??? LOL ..eat it.
Hey, if people in the LDS church offices made donations illegally with church $, than Karger holding them to the laws of the land is a good thing.
Also, the LDS church made many more friends during prop 8 than enemies. Most of the black, Hispanic, Asian, Caucasian and basic Christian vote in California were already against ssm before the LDS got involved. They liked the LDS stance against ssm. They welcomed the LDS to take such a frontal position against ssm. That will always be your bitter facts.
Fighting and or establishing a right for equality isn't squashing bigots rights.
But when you purposefully try to suppress peoples/company right to have an opinion/position and a right to vote a specific way by purposeful intimidation of boycotts and or physical and mental violence and harassment, that's the work of prejudicial bigots working for a dictatorship that say screw you to a right of democracy.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33082 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>\
Feeling persecuted? Good, change you bigot ways and join the human race and you feel even better about yourself. Or go on whining like a spoiled little child not getting their way. You won't get any sympathy from us.
lol.....way to fricking sad dude, you're as mentally diseased as Nomo and Pearl if you think a person standing up for any person to have a right to an opinion and to vote how they wish to is the action of a bigot. If doing that makes me a bigot, supporting democracy, the American right to agree and disagree and to vote one's opinion at a voting booth, than call me a bigot please. Because that makes you and Nomo and your kind dictators. And even in America if you and Nomo want to be a socialist dictator, you have that right :)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33083 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>\
Feeling persecuted? Good, change you bigot ways and join the human race and you feel even better about yourself. Or go on whining like a spoiled little child not getting their way. You won't get any sympathy from us.
I noted you didn't make comment of the following so I'll post it again to see how rational or irrational you reply.

Bernardo de Sahagun (born 1499) wrote:“Quetzalcoatl was esteemed and considered as a god, and was worshipped in older times. He had long hair and was bearded. The people worshipped only the Lord”(Historia General de las Cosas de Nueva España, Mexico: Editorial Porrua, S. A., 1985, pp. 195, 598).

Diego Duran (born 1537) wrote:“A great man—a person venerable and religious—bearded, tall, long hair, dignified deportment, heroic acts, miracles—I affirm he could have been one of the blessed apostles”(Historia de las Indias de Nueva España, 1867, first ed., 2 vols., Mexico: Editorial Porrua, S. A., 1967, 1:9).

Bartolomé de las Casas (born 1474) wrote that Quetzalcoatl, the plumed serpent, was white, had a rounded beard, was tall, and came from the sea in the east, from whence he will return (see Los Indios de Mexico y Nueva España Antologiá, Mexico: Editorial Porrua, S. A., 1982, pp. 54, 218, 223).

The Tamanacos Indian tribes in Venezuela have the same legend of a white, bearded god:“[Amalivacá] had a face the color of the light fluffy clouds of the morning, and white was his long head of hair.… He said:‘I am Amalivacá, and I come in the name of my father INA-UIKI’”(Arturo Hellmund Tello, Leyendas Indígenas del Bajo Orinoco, trans. Ted E. Brewerton, Buenos Aires, Argentina: Imprenta Lopez Peru 666, 1948, pp. 19–22).(Brewerton, The Book...)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33084 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
It says there was no death before they sinned. Millions of dinosaurs bones and oil fields alone prove that wrong. It took longer than one day to form the sun. Mankind has been on Earth longer than 6,000 years. You stick with a fairytale if you want, I'll stick with the facts. You may now return to sticking your head in the sand.
Your reply wasn't in context to the story regardless if the story is true or fiction.

The garden of Eden according to the story WASN'T the entire earth.
The garden of Eden according to the story took up a certain "part/percentage" of land on the earth, but not all of the earth. That's substantiated by the story because Adam and Eve were taken out of Eden, understand that phrase, taken out of Eden and as mortals as you and I were now set without the area called the garden of Eden and were allowed to live in this new area they hadn't lived on before. This area of land would be populated by Adam and Eve and their sons and daughters. Cain is said in the story of settling land Adam and Eve hadn't settled.
So the story mentions Eden where Adam and Eve lived in a state of perfection where there was no death while outside this Eden it can be assumed death existed for plants etc that existed there. After Adam and Eve were expelled from this state of perfection of Eden where death didn't exist, it states God set cherubim and a flaming sword to guard anyone from entering it again.
No one knows how long Adam and Eve lived in the garden of Eden according to the story.
No one knows what kind of life be it plant or animal life existed outside of that garden of Eden according to the story.
No one knows from that story if dinosaurs lived before the garden came to be or before and during the time of Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden according to the story.
What we do know are mythical stories and rock carvings going back thousands of years tell of very large lizard like creatures that existed of different shapes and sizes.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33085 Mar 18, 2014
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
I hear Fred Phelps is on his deathbed. You must be in mourning..
The fact that you would make such a statement of me only proves beyond a doubt what I said, that it can only take a really vile, ugly, darkened filthy mind as you provenly have to think of such a thing to say of any one. How unfortunate you like to have such vile, filthy depraved thinking for others.
People like you totally astound me how you live a day to think of the vilest nastiest and depraved things you can think of to say to another person. Is it easy? Does it just seem a natural thing to do, to talk so perverse and depraved of others? I'm really curious. Most of us wake up with positive outlooks and think of nice or polite things to say to people, even to those they may not like or enjoy being around. But you wake up and you begin to think of what vile, nasty, depraved and sick thing you can say to or about this person or to that person as you have done it on Topix for two years strong. Will you ever change?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#33086 Mar 18, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
It says there was no death before they sinned. Millions of dinosaurs bones and oil fields alone prove that wrong. It took longer than one day to form the sun. Mankind has been on Earth longer than 6,000 years. You stick with a fairytale if you want, I'll stick with the facts. You may now return to sticking your head in the sand.
As a side note, it doesn't say their was no death before Adam and Eve sinned.
It states/insinuates there was no physical death for Adam and Eve WHILE they lived in the garden of Eden. It says nothing of what life and death was like outside of the garden of Eden. And there was an "outside" area of the garden of Eden because God in that story placed them their and made them clothes of animal skins. He than made guards for the garden of Eden so Adam and Eve couldn't return to it. That distinguishes two separate physical locals of the earth in that story: the earth and the garden of Eden a protected area on the earth.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33088 Mar 18, 2014
concerned in Brasil wrote:
<quoted text>
How could Eve say to the Serpent that God told her she would die if she ate the fruit with out knowing what death was, how could she fear this if she did not know what it was??
God said they would surely die not animals non spiritual beings, when death entered the world in context it was for the human race. Animals did Adam and Eve knew what death was.
leafs fell of trees and washed down streams and made the oil you type on. Again we have know Idea how long Adam and Eve where in the Garden before death entered their bodies. It could have be billion billion years for all we know and to them it seemed like a blink of the eye.
But after they sinned the world would now produce diereses and thorns etc and they now would have to toil the land to feed themselves.
But again before the fall animals could have easily died most likely did.
And you forget about the flood that killed billions of animals to make the oil. BTW I am offshore drilling for the black stuff as I write, many geologist believe oil does not form over billions of years that is only one theory. As we see with ROV's today at 3500 meters under water rivers flowing into thermal caves going deep into the abyss of the earth taking tons and tons of dead organic material with them from the sea bed floor, the theory is when it gets down in the mantle super heated Oil is formed in 100s of years and migrates up. fields they thought were exhausted 80 years ago now are producing again.
And you again try to measure how many days it took to make the sun but days did not exist till the sun existed.
Best you get a degree in the Sciences
As of today the recent cosmetology experiment at Harvard is proving the big bang and the expansion of the universe to an astronomical size occurred Instantly, so quick beyond it is beyond our compression, suns stars planets traveling distances so quick its beyond compression and the ripples of this explosion have twisted light that can only be explained by this being fact.
To be a christian is to believe in and follow Jesus.
He believed in the Genesis account as the NT reveals.
If you don't believe that blessings, but for the record you are no more christian than LDS.
The fact you know not of this, condone men inserting their penis's in the rectums of other men as an act of love, denying the very words of the errant Bible Jesus no less proves you are a Phony.
Truth matters you don't
What is the definition of a Christian to you?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#33089 Mar 18, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
As a side note, it doesn't say their was no death before Adam and Eve sinned.
It states/insinuates there was no physical death for Adam and Eve WHILE they lived in the garden of Eden. It says nothing of what life and death was like outside of the garden of Eden. And there was an "outside" area of the garden of Eden because God in that story placed them their and made them clothes of animal skins. He than made guards for the garden of Eden so Adam and Eve couldn't return to it. That distinguishes two separate physical locals of the earth in that story: the earth and the garden of Eden a protected area on the earth.
I think most people forget that part that there was an outside area of the garden of Eden.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#33090 Mar 18, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
I think most people forget that part that there was an outside area of the garden of Eden.
Why would you think that? Since they were banished from the garden there was obviously somewhere to get banished to.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#33091 Mar 18, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm still not 100% convinced that you're not another profile of Dana. You mirror more of his twisted BS than any other profile on all of Topix that I have noted.
I know you missed it because you have great problems in understanding the difference between what is wrote and what you want what was wrote to mean. And that is where your really twisted BS comes into play as you proved it in this post.
So let me spell it out for you.
I don't support hetero marriage or homo marriage. I support a right to marriage as much as I support a right to being single. But I will support a person's right to vote and have an opinion in spite of the opposition they'll face for it. That's the type guy I am. Do you need any more grade school level explanations?
Karger like Nomo and all their dictator type mentalities have become the enemy they once fought against that did as they now do. If someone has an opposing opinion that disagrees with homosexuals and marriage, homosexuals and their supporters like Karger and Nomo now punish those people for their oppositional position. They boycott them if their a business. If their a person, they ridicule them, reveal other things about them to cause mental and or physical attacks by others.
People like Karger and Nomo see absolutely nothing wrong with becoming verbally ugly and vindictive and prejudicial and deeply bigoted against people that won't think as they do. It's a dictatorship thing. If you don't think and do as the Karger and Nomos of the world, suffer the consequences. And they see this type attitude as well and good and can't see the mental sickness of it at all.
It makes no difference, at least not to me, if you think I'm Dana. But it is NO Surprise, you're as dense as I've ever seen. Example: Once again you've completely missed the point made. I have no desire to take away your opinion or vote. The argument is that some things should not be put to a vote. Should we, as a nation vote on your right to decide what you do? Should I have a vote on your life? Who you commit your life to? Who you build a life with? Who your beneficiary should be? Should I have a vote on whether or not you can be an artist, an electrician, an idiot? You don't grasp that is what the argument is. Not whether you have an opinion or a vote. But that some things are human rights, that shouldn't be put to a vote. Your argument is akin to a right to vote to oppress, a right to vote for slavery. For goodness sake, pay attention. Do you really think that others being able to decide on your lifestyle doesn't amount to a dictatorship? For goodness sake pay attention.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#33093 Mar 18, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm still not 100% convinced that you're not another profile of Dana. You mirror more of his twisted BS than any other profile on all of Topix that I have noted.
I know you missed it because you have great problems in understanding the difference between what is wrote and what you want what was wrote to mean. And that is where your really twisted BS comes into play as you proved it in this post.
So let me spell it out for you.
I don't support hetero marriage or homo marriage. I support a right to marriage as much as I support a right to being single. But I will support a person's right to vote and have an opinion in spite of the opposition they'll face for it. That's the type guy I am. Do you need any more grade school level explanations?
Karger like Nomo and all their dictator type mentalities have become the enemy they once fought against that did as they now do. If someone has an opposing opinion that disagrees with homosexuals and marriage, homosexuals and their supporters like Karger and Nomo now punish those people for their oppositional position. They boycott them if their a business. If their a person, they ridicule them, reveal other things about them to cause mental and or physical attacks by others.
People like Karger and Nomo see absolutely nothing wrong with becoming verbally ugly and vindictive and prejudicial and deeply bigoted against people that won't think as they do. It's a dictatorship thing. If you don't think and do as the Karger and Nomos of the world, suffer the consequences. And they see this type attitude as well and good and can't see the mental sickness of it at all.
I'm going to address in several separate posts the different issues in your post because you have a nasty habit of not responding to the entirety of what I post to you. So if I separate the issues perhaps you wont be overwhelmed. So anyway, this bullshit you keep claiming that I have a problem understanding what is written {please let's not say "what is wrote", it make you look uneducated} is getting old. When you write something I take it literally, this isn't Aesop's Fables. For example, you state, "I don't support hetro or home marriage" So you don't support either type of marriage, is there another kind you do support? Cuz what you're saying is you don't condone or tolerate either type of marriage. Now who knows if that is what you meant, but it is what the words you used mean. Then you go on in the very next sentence and write, " I support the right to marriage as much as I support the right to be single." But you don't state if you do support being single {and with you who knows} you only state it is the same amount of support as for the right to marry, which could be none since you just said you don't support either type of marriage. You ramble, you contradict, you use redundant phrases. You come across as slow witted and a shallow thinker, Learn to communicate in a cohesive manner and write what you mean to say. At least learn the difference between there, their and they're. I guarantee you will get mocked less.

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