Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32073 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31372 Jan 13, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You just don't expect the Mormons to speak as Christian though, right? Keep crying in your Near Beer. I've laid it out for you, deal with it, or don't respond. I don't care either way.
Wow... that is staying open-minded...

My way or the Highway right?
"I've laid it out for you, deal with it, or don't respond. I don't care either way."

Now, let us speak truth okay.

1) My name is not Carol. Oh, but you know this don't you.
2) The Google guy, and I are not the same poster. I think you know that too, at least you should.
3) Nobody believes your made up lies that were invented to distract and confuse people from the truth... the saddest part about the entire situation is that even you got can't tell the truth anymore.

So, why argue what you don't have an argument for...? Who I am or who I am not may not be shown to you until we die because this is an anonymous thread.

That being said why don't you start a debate topic we can discuss?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31374 Jan 13, 2014
Obviously that was an oops and my name is Liz. Now you know something about me Da-mo-loop.

But, I came in here as an anonymous user for a reason: to be anonymous. I do not talk about my life in here, my kids lives in here, or my husbands life in here. I do wish to discuss Heavenly Father and history etc in this thread if anyone is interested.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31375 Jan 13, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
Obviously that was an oops and my name is Liz. Now you know something about me Da-mo-loop.
But, I came in here as an anonymous user for a reason: to be anonymous. I do not talk about my life in here, my kids lives in here, or my husbands life in here. I do wish to discuss Heavenly Father and history etc in this thread if anyone is interested.
Oh don't give it a thought, Mouse. I am always willing to refer to you by your rodent name. And don't let it bother you for a minute that you have exposed No Surprise name. Yeah, don't even bother to acknowledge that little faux pas. Maybe he doesn't want to remain completely anonymous anyway.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31376 Jan 13, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Oh don't give it a thought, Mouse. I am always willing to refer to you by your rodent name. And don't let it bother you for a minute that you have exposed No Surprise name. Yeah, don't even bother to acknowledge that little faux pas. Maybe he doesn't want to remain completely anonymous anyway.
Pearl,

You know nothing... and that little Rodent name... I'll go by any day... because as long as I follow Heavenly Fathers commands I will go to his Kingdom. I have no worries... and I acknowledge I said his name in an oops... ok but so friggin what... who even knows if it is his true name. IDK if he gave me a nickname or was even truthful about his name. So, why don't you do a little rain dance and make it rain.

I'm waiting!
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31377 Jan 13, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Human nature doesn't give statistical data. People recording the actions of people give actual data. And where did you get the notion that laws don't change human nature? That was a really ignorant statement in light of facts of how laws suppressed the human nature of homosexuality to closets and behind closed doors for a couple thousand years. Laws suppress the human nature in MOST humans the want to kill other humans. I could go on but I won't.
Sex be it same or opposite is human nature. But having sex with a person involved with another person use to come with consequences be it verbal and or physical consequences. I realize it isn't that way today as it use to be just a century ago.
Okay Surprise, I want to make sure, before we get further involved with this topic, that we understand each others claim. You're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, MOST humans want to kill other humans, but laws against killing changes human nature so they don't want to kill others? You're actually claiming that one society can change human nature through the use of laws forbidding such nature? And my claim is that's nuts. Are`we on the same page here?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31378 Jan 13, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Okay Surprise, I want to make sure, before we get further involved with this topic, that we understand each others claim. You're saying, and correct me if I'm wrong, MOST humans want to kill other humans, but laws against killing changes human nature so they don't want to kill others? You're actually claiming that one society can change human nature through the use of laws forbidding such nature? And my claim is that's nuts. Are`we on the same page here?
I read it to mean this Pearl:
"Laws suppress the human nature in MOST" - of the - "humans that want to kill other humans."

Not most people want to kill... but rather in the humans that have that desire "to kill" laws suppressed the desire in "MOST" humans.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31379 Jan 13, 2014
DaNaSiMaGiNaRyFRieNDCaRoL wrote:
<quoted text>
This unthought through self serving speech is what leads to people claiming to forbid and eradicate murder and robbery and rape and arson,
only leads to more, murder, robbery, rape, and arson.
It's simply not even adult conversation Pearl although that's not necessarily your fault you have to present it. It's what you've been taught and told, and you haven't thought that through.
Forbidding your children to lie to you makes them lie to you.
Forbidding school teachers molesting children makes them do it more.
Forbidding policemen beating people up for no reason makes them do it more.
Forbidding slaving murdering American natives from slaving and murdering makes them do it more.
Forbidding the sale of liquor on the Rez makes more Indians be drunks.
Forbidding people buying heroin over the counter makes more heroin addicts.
Pfft it's.... it's just not adult comprehension level conversation.
Another claim that murder, rape, lying, arson etc...is just human nature, but because it's forbidden the human nature just changes. All that and God's greatest creation too. When you and your spouses get together for family home evening and that family orgy is in full gear do you worry, that human nature might kick in and one of you might go into an orgasmic murdering frenzy? What every you do don't leave the house, they are hiding in the bushes.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#31380 Jan 13, 2014
I had the creator of this web site threaten to sue me one time because reposted one of his articles on my old web site showing the LDS church "is one of the fastest growing churches" is total BS. So I then just told what the article was about and proved a link to it. He kept changing the link address to try to stop me. LOL!!!

http://m.sltrib.com/sltrib/mobile3/57369318-2...

Only in Mormonism does 4 million equal 12 million.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31381 Jan 13, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
Go back and read... it's not all that important to you or you would remember. You won't go back and read so I ain't worried about it.
You're almost right Mouse, it's not important to me at all. But the fact that you went on and on, even into the next day, that you were insulted, convinced me that it was important to you. It also convinced me that you are weak, thin skinned, narcissistic, and have little self worth.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31382 Jan 13, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
Pearl,
You know nothing... and that little Rodent name... I'll go by any day... because as long as I follow Heavenly Fathers commands I will go to his Kingdom. I have no worries... and I acknowledge I said his name in an oops... ok but so friggin what... who even knows if it is his true name. IDK if he gave me a nickname or was even truthful about his name. So, why don't you do a little rain dance and make it rain.
I'm waiting!
Well, almost right again. Your attempts at turning your posts into romper room, with your "I see Lamo and Fruit Loop, and Betty and Veronica" really doesn't seem to be working out for ya. And of course you're wrong, I know lots, I know your name, where you live, you have sons and a daughter. I know your faith, your insecurities, what makes you tick and what makes you cry. Scary isn't it? And that's just a little of what I know, imagine all the things not discussed on this thread that I know, that don't revolve around you. Oh yeah, and I know you are frigid and your hubby you pizza and an apology on a regular basis.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31383 Jan 13, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You made the initial response of adultery (happening) in all ages (which I didn't disagree about) but that you felt "To think that people were somehow more pious or less likely to commit adultery a hundred and fifty years ago is naive to say the least." That is the point where I disagreed and gave reasons why and endeavored to do so by comparing the two centuries. I disagreed. I began to make comparisons but not before hand.
Never the less, the point is that it's ignorant I believe to think adultery took place as much or as often in the 1800s as it does today in the 2000s as you claimed. Did adultery take place? Of course. But most valued marriage and monogamous marriages/relationships and avoided adultery for moral and legal reasons in the 1800s that people today have no similar values for. More people today are socially monogamous than monogamous and take a very "so what" attitude about adultery.
And that takes us back to the initial conversation we have left. To be an adulterer one has to have a willing accomplice. If Smith was such an adulterer, that makes 40 plus females 15 to 60, single married and widowed willing to be adulteresses and that insinuates they didn't care how they would fair in the public eye if found out. That's a bit tough to believe when one remembers most in the 1800s were raised with Biblical puritan idealisms of right and wrong. But you can believe it if you wish. I'll reserve myself to doubts :)
Are these wives you are referring to the same ones who went to court claiming to have his offspring? And do you think they thought of themselves as being adulterers since they were in a celestial marriage?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#31384 Jan 13, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>You're almost right Mouse, it's not important to me at all. But the fact that you went on and on, even into the next day, that you were insulted, convinced me that it was important to you. It also convinced me that you are weak, thin skinned, narcissistic, and have little self worth.
Dear,

You contradict yourself in just a few words...

weak, thin skinned, and have little self worth is just the opposite of NARCISSISTIC:

Synonyms
egocentricity, egocentrism, egomania, egotism, egoism, navel-gazing, self-absorption, self-centeredness, self-concern, self-interest, self-involvement, selfishness, selfness, self-preoccupation, self-regard

Antonyms
self-abandonment, self-forgetfulness, selflessness, unselfishness

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#31385 Jan 13, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Well, almost right again. Your attempts at turning your posts into romper room, with your "I see Lamo and Fruit Loop, and Betty and Veronica" really doesn't seem to be working out for ya. And of course you're wrong, I know lots, I know your name, where you live, you have sons and a daughter. I know your faith, your insecurities, what makes you tick and what makes you cry. Scary isn't it? And that's just a little of what I know, imagine all the things not discussed on this thread that I know, that don't revolve around you. Oh yeah, and I know you are frigid and your hubby you pizza and an apology on a regular basis.
First, Who is Betty and Veronica?

Second, you are full of yourself. And, NO, I am not going to fall for your game and give you information about myself. You are a friggin NUT.

And, if you knew me very well you would know that you are wrong.

I could sit here and tell you what I know about you dear, but there isn't much to being a Rain Dancer and I don't want to rub it in your face too much. And, NO I don't apologize for things on a regular basis especially to people who don't deserve it. I live my life as I think Heavenly Father wants me to and there is no grace in being like that and I believe that Heavenly Father wants us to have honor in the things we do. If there is no honor in them... I try not to do them.

You keep on guess Dana junior... lol I will keep on laughing. Next there is no where on the Internet that you could even know my name, address, about my husband, or kids. And, next you will try to tell me how many dogs and cats I have... how about you start with tell me who the heck Betty and Veronica are?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31386 Jan 13, 2014
*guessing
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31387 Jan 13, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
First, Who is Betty and Veronica?
Second, you are full of yourself. And, NO, I am not going to fall for your game and give you information about myself. You are a friggin NUT.
And, if you knew me very well you would know that you are wrong.
I could sit here and tell you what I know about you dear, but there isn't much to being a Rain Dancer and I don't want to rub it in your face too much. And, NO I don't apologize for things on a regular basis especially to people who don't deserve it. I live my life as I think Heavenly Father wants me to and there is no grace in being like that and I believe that Heavenly Father wants us to have honor in the things we do. If there is no honor in them... I try not to do them.
You keep on guess Dana junior... lol I will keep on laughing. Next there is no where on the Internet that you could even know my name, address, about my husband, or kids. And, next you will try to tell me how many dogs and cats I have... how about you start with tell me who the heck Betty and Veronica are?
Come on Mouse, Betty and Veronica, illegitimate daughters of Nicholas II, last Czar of Russia. Both married Archibald Prince from the Ukraine. None of this rings a bell? Thought you knew history?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#31388 Jan 13, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>Come on Mouse, Betty and Veronica, illegitimate daughters of Nicholas II, last Czar of Russia. Both married Archibald Prince from the Ukraine. None of this rings a bell? Thought you knew history?
Please don't start with area 51 / bigfoot / elvis in kmart "literature". lol

IF you want to discuss RELIGION on this thread then lets discuss it. Don't be a drama-holic...
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31389 Jan 13, 2014
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
Please don't start with area 51 / bigfoot / elvis in kmart "literature". lol
IF you want to discuss RELIGION on this thread then lets discuss it. Don't be a drama-holic...
For real, I heard "they" meaning Obama, are going to turn Area 51 into a to a tourist attraction. They're going to put in a monorail that goes from Area 51, to all the casinos out to Groom Lake and have concerts and stuff. I'll see if I can find you a web site about it.
But if you want to talk about religion, okay. You be pro and I'll be con. Say... how bout you take the position that the Mormon church is true and I'll take the position that it is the whore of Babylon,
Chief Slave Feather

Gridley, CA

#31390 Jan 13, 2014
Slave Feather: your people used to murder Mormons.

We made it against the law. It was your nature. We invented the .45 automatic and television to keep tabs on you.

Your people used to murder molest rape burn and enslave every peaceful indian within several hundred square miles.

We made it against the law and used Kit Carson to finally chase Manuelito and his tribe of murderous rapine thieving natured raw meat eating savages and kill all his people's sheep up in the Canyons there and SUPPRESS YOUR INHUMAN NATURE.

Hick.
Too bad.
You lose.
Shoulda evolved.

This is the evolution of spirits and you're not quite to the
"glowing in the dark" stage yet.

Matter of fact we have to put a label on a battery
or you couldn't make a flashight glow in the dark.

Your nature is to murder molest rape enslave anything that isn't kept out of your clutches through usage of chain link fence.

This is known.

You are acting like you've been huffing petroleum distillates.
Chief Slave Feather

Gridley, CA

#31391 Jan 13, 2014
Because that kind of wacktard behavior is in YOUR HUMAN NATURE.
pearl

Sandy, UT

#31393 Jan 13, 2014
Chief Slave Feather wrote:
Because that kind of wacktard behavior is in YOUR HUMAN NATURE.
Donuthole, I'm starting to think you don't like me. You think maybe I'm a little mean to your women, it's a shame, I know and I agree. Maybe ya'll should pass a law forbidding innate sarcasm and pass another one, that says all your women must be able to grasp a concept, or how bout one that forbids you from being ignorant. That will make those human trait go away, easy peasy. Remember conquering human nature is just a matter of making laws.

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