Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32098 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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#28278 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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And neither the Mormons or the Christians want you. Now what?
Oooohhh, you so hurt my feelings dana, boo hoo hoo, I'm gonna go cry. Fricking whacktoid you would have something immature and childish to say.
PS...if you represent any Christians that don't want me, I thank you for your rejection from the bottom of my *ss...lol...*amm you can be so down right pathetic.

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#28279 Oct 18, 2013
Realpeople wrote:
<quoted text>Who is the birth right mother? Real Christians follow Jesus Christ and his teachings in the bible. End of story. If you don't do this then you are not a real Christian.
Ahhh not. You should read some actual history just suggesting. See, after the death of Jesus and the apostles it wouldn't be till the 3rd century when the NT would begin to actually take form of what we read today. But the first Bible wasn't printed till the fourteenth century by the church of Rome.
Everything you read to know about Jesus came through that early church. So that church is your mother church all the way around. Understand?

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#28280 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Oooohhh, you so hurt my feelings dana, boo hoo hoo, I'm gonna go cry. Fricking whacktoid you would have something immature and childish to say.
PS...if you represent any Christians that don't want me, I thank you for your rejection from the bottom of my *ss...lol...*amm you can be so down right pathetic.
Poor poor, pitiful..the mos kicked you out and you can't bring yourself to re-up..after all these years. Is it the commit or did you do something awful?..or just an awful in morg standards?

I learned a really valuable tip from prop h8, btw:) I wish I had known it when those creepers stalked me and my family years ago, when we moved to Utah.

...if the mishies come to my door and I tell them I'm gay, they don't stalk me. It's sad and awesome all at the same time, isn't it?

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#28281 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>Poor poor, pitiful..the mos kicked you out and you can't bring yourself to re-up..after all these years. Is it the commit or did you do something awful?..or just an awful in morg standards?

I learned a really valuable tip from prop h8, btw:) I wish I had known it when those creepers stalked me and my family years ago, when we moved to Utah.

...if the mishies come to my door and I tell them I'm gay, they don't stalk me. It's sad and awesome all at the same time, isn't it?
Hubby calls it "the power of repulsion"
LOL

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#28282 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Yeah, noprize..you can always get rebaptized and be a mo again..what gives???
lol ;)P Somethings are better not to be discussed with those who would trample such information underfoot as they always do with personal info. I won't mention you and dana as 'those'...I did. My bad :)

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#28283 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Apparently he can't or clearly he would have done so by now. Apparently the reason they kicked him out is still a problem. He isn't worthy to be LDS.
Keep guessing.

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#28284 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Your history of posting here is the proof. You have defended any perversion of Joseph Smith. His lying, his stealing, his murdering, a deviant among deviants. You have supported every racists, and bigoted action of the Mormon church, made justification of it's perversions of the gospel of Jesus Christ. You deny clear scripture showing Mormonism is a lie, and a man made pile of crap.
That is the proof.
Jews 2000 years ago could show clear scripture the Jesus prophet was a wolf in sheeps clothing and a liar like you use the Bible to make the same claim of J Smith and Mormonism. You're no different in your theistic rhetoric then the Jews of 2000 years ago.
Next. I have never defended a perversion or anything like it as you claim. I have questioned you repeatedly concerning your statements of Smith that is true. And you don't like that. Because you like to lie and use the darkest foulest thoughts of Smith to prove what a great Christian you are concerning a dead guy you love to speak about.
Speaking of racists, I speak to you and you were(still are?)one. What's the difference? You're an accomplished liar in these threads. You've committed murder according to Jesus because you said you'd murder Smith if you had the chance. You're a real diviant in these threads as you have also used homosexual slurs to put others down with, you have spoke ill and wrong about people here in the filthiest foulest ways imaginable. You have nearly done all the things you claim Smith did/said. And you think you're better than him? lol...really sad. You've proved over and over you have the blackest, darkest filthiest mind for thinking things to say of others and to others with the hopeful intent to harm them emotionally. And than you call yourself a Christian. To fricking pathetic dude. Seriously.

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#28285 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>lol ;)P Somethings are better not to be discussed with those who would trample such information underfoot as they always do with personal info. I won't mention you and dana as 'those'...I did. My bad :)
I understand..but you have to admit..being booted and yet still sticking up for that creepy amway religion..did you have to sit in the middle of a circle..a fishbowl? A court of love? That you endured all that complete bs and still believe their spiel..it's really bizarre. Don't you wish you had filmed it? Can you imagine, I hope you can...it's legal in Utah to record conversations as long as there is one party consenting.

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#28286 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>I understand..but you have to admit..being booted and yet still sticking up for that creepy amway religion..did you have to sit in the middle of a circle..a fishbowl? A court of love? That you endured all that complete bs and still believe their spiel..it's really bizarre. Don't you wish you had filmed it? Can you imagine, I hope you can...it's legal in Utah to record conversations as long as there is one party consenting.
The truth is one YouTube click away:)

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#28287 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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I'm going by the version that clearly teaches salvation by grace and not by works. It's in all the versions you mentioned. In fact the version I use in daily life comes from manuscripts older than the Vulgate.
If you had real knowledge of what was taught in the New Testament, the translations wouldn't be an issue any more than the Book of Mormon being translated into over 50 languages would be. A translation does not automatically mean a change in meaning. And as many of the translations you refer too can still be found, feel free to prove me wrong. All the translations demonstrate the change in language over time, not a change in meaning. And if the KVJ isn't correct, why isn't the JST the official version of the Bible for the church? Doesn't the Mormon church trust it's own founder? Apparently not.
lol...and you have real knowledge of what's written in the NT? Pllllllleaseeeeee...lol. If the 'so called real knowledge' of the version of the Bible you use had any meaning to you, you would never ever of stated you wanted to commit premeditated murder of even a dead guy. You would never have uttered the filthy black things you have stated with hopeful purpose to inflict emotional harm/distress on others. And that makes you a wannabe xtian. You're half there. You wannabe a Christian but you're not willing to make character sacrifices to become something better than you are at present.
And these older manuscripts you speak of, their no more to be trusted than any other version of the Bible. Jerome made a complete REVISION of the Vetus Latina and produced the Vulgate by order of a pope. He didn't care for the earlier version. So you're so claimed older manuscripts are no more worthy in trusted content than any others of that time. You have early Catholic church writings any way you look at it.

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#28288 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson said without thinking...
(Let's take the following apart and insert some truths shall we?)
1. He is the one making worthiness an issue.
1a. Wrong. I made worthiness an issue with just you because you claim you're a kind loving caring Christian. The Christian that said he'd commit murder of a dead guy. The Christian who constantly finds it a good thing to think of the vilest, foulest things to say to others to put them down etc. Those are things making up your true self proved worthiness.
2. Don't be a cry baby because I'm using his standards,(or lack of) against him.
2a. You'll never use my standards or you would have to change the entire present makeup of your present dark, filthy, vileness you love to bring out to others.
3. Stop being a hypocrite, he can't shut up about my relationship with God and speculating if I'm a real Christian or not.
3a. I don't speculate. I know what a real Christian is and I know what one isn't. And among other things they refrian from a real Christian refrains from speaking ill of others, doesn't wish to murder a dead guy, doesn't use homosexual slurs against others, doesn't think of things to say to hopefully cause emotional harm and distress to others etc all of which you have done and still do.
4. If he was taking his kids to the LDS church and didn't get rebaptized, it's because he couldn't met the standard. The reason he got kicked out. I wasn't kicked out, I left the church. Could rejoin at anytime, if I wanted too. He can't. What's good for the goose...
4a. Still guessing....

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#28289 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Poor poor, pitiful..the mos kicked you out and you can't bring yourself to re-up..after all these years. Is it the commit or did you do something awful?..or just an awful in morg standards?
I learned a really valuable tip from prop h8, btw:) I wish I had known it when those creepers stalked me and my family years ago, when we moved to Utah.
...if the mishies come to my door and I tell them I'm gay, they don't stalk me. It's sad and awesome all at the same time, isn't it?
The only pitiful thing happening now is your comfort in lying, that's pitiful.

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#28290 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>The only pitiful thing happening now is your comfort in lying, that's pitiful.
Oh, no lies..you should try it..the next time an elder duo rings your bell, tell them you're gay and watch what happens.

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#28291 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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I understand..but you have to admit..being booted and yet still sticking up for that creepy amway religion..did you have to sit in the middle of a circle..a fishbowl? A court of love? That you endured all that complete bs and still believe their spiel..it's really bizarre. Don't you wish you had filmed it? Can you imagine, I hope you can...it's legal in Utah to record conversations as long as there is one party consenting.
Keep guessing.

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Since: Oct 08

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#28292 Oct 18, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Oh, no lies..you should try it..the next time an elder duo rings your bell, tell them you're gay and watch what happens.
Okay. So I'll go out on a limb here and give some actual advice I'm sure you'll find some way to ridicule, etc.
If you wish missionaries not to come to your place of residence, do the following if you already haven't.
A. Go buy a small plastic garage sale sign that has a white back. Buy some black sticky letters. Print out "Mormon missionaries not welcome. Police will be called if you knock and bother me." Put that in the window closest to your door they would approach. Simple and easy.
By the way, elders do knock on my door. I tell them I'm not interested in joining at present but if they wish to come in and give a lesson I'll listen. That was months ago as I moved out of my old ward area. I'm beginning my 4th set of missionaries Sunday. They don't say it but I know they like using me for practice for when they get a chance to speak to a possible convert. They're polite and very nice.
Not sure why you have the issues you do with missionaries. One would be persuade from what you say to think you like the interaction so you can have something foul and rude to say :)

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#28293 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Okay. So I'll go out on a limb here and give some actual advice I'm sure you'll find some way to ridicule, etc.
If you wish missionaries not to come to your place of residence, do the following if you already haven't.
A. Go buy a small plastic garage sale sign that has a white back. Buy some black sticky letters. Print out "Mormon missionaries not welcome. Police will be called if you knock and bother me." Put that in the window closest to your door they would approach. Simple and easy.
By the way, elders do knock on my door. I tell them I'm not interested in joining at present but if they wish to come in and give a lesson I'll listen. That was months ago as I moved out of my old ward area. I'm beginning my 4th set of missionaries Sunday. They don't say it but I know they like using me for practice for when they get a chance to speak to a possible convert. They're polite and very nice.
Not sure why you have the issues you do with missionaries. One would be persuade from what you say to think you like the interaction so you can have something foul and rude to say :)
Oh...you really should re- baptize(or whatever it's called) yourself. Anyone who totally adore/believe/absorbs their voodoo as much as you do deserves a second chance..and you have certainly shown your penance on topix. show the local bishop all your postings!!!
Surely he would let someone as loyal as you back in..can you do the 10%? If you can't, it's ok, you can go still enjoy one of the lessor heavens.

That's the thing about missionaries..if you like what they are selling, it's cooI. If they are selling a scam and stalking you, it's creepy.
Gstspkr

United States

#28294 Oct 18, 2013
The one question I always put to my Mormon missionaries is this. If you were to die today, where would you go? They believe in 3 heavens, but would not dare venture tell you specifically where they would end up. They don't know where they stand. Rather, they say if I have followed all the commandments and church sacraments, then they would go to the 1st heaven. If not, then to the second. I ask well have you followed and not forsaken all the commandments and sacraments? The song and dance gets interesting at that point.
Gstspkr

United States

#28295 Oct 18, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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You are incorrect on 2 areas. The original manuscript of the Book of Mormon is suppose to be the golden plates, and no you don't have them. Also there has been over 3,000 changes made in the Book of Mormon over the years. Some of those changes include changing the actual meaning of the verses.
Nor do they have the magical spectacles used to interpret them.

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Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#28296 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Ahhh not. You should read some actual history just suggesting. See, after the death of Jesus and the apostles it wouldn't be till the 3rd century when the NT would begin to actually take form of what we read today. But the first Bible wasn't printed till the fourteenth century by the church of Rome.
Everything you read to know about Jesus came through that early church. So that church is your mother church all the way around. Understand?
You're so dishonest. The letters of Paul and the gospels were still available to the church from the time they were first written. They weren't just put together in one book. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously. You lie like a good Mormon though.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#28297 Oct 18, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Keep guessing.
Don't have to guess. You told us you were excommunicated by the church. You bragged about learning Mormonism while taking your children to the meetings. And from your thousands of post here in defense of the perverted church, it's clear you've brought the BS hook, line and sinker. You would be LDS if they let you. But you have some great "SIN" that stops your rebaptism.

NoMo is guessing your gay. I think you're alcoholic. You sure show that type of logic sometimes. Maybe you're a gay alcoholic. Who knows? Who cares? Not me, not really. Whatever the problem, it's made you pathetic.

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