Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27288 Jul 23, 2013
anonymousnetruthteller wrote:
<quoted text>
We worship Jesus Christ not Joseph Smith (Joseph Smith was a prophet (like Peter)and THE BOM does not contradict the Bible
Peter was not a prophet. Was never called that in the New Testament. As for the Book of Mormon not contradicting the Bible. You need to study more. Here are a few contradictions:
Bible vs. Book of Mormon
Bible: Church began in 33 AD Mt 16:18 Acts 2
Book of Mormon: church began in 147BC, Mosiah 18:17
Bible: "disciples were first called Christians in Antioch" 40AD, Acts 11:26
Book of Mormon: Alma 46:13-16 supposedly written in 73BC refers to Nephites as Christians.
Bible: Jesus is only head of church Col 1:18
Book of Mormon: Joe Smith is head of Mormon church D&C 28:2-6
Bible: "Jesus was born in Bethlehem" Mt 2:1 + Mt 21:17
Book of Mormon: "He shall be born of Mary at Jerusalem" Alma 7:10
Bible: 3 hours of darkness at crucifixion Lk 23:44
Book of Mormon: 3 Days of darkness at crucifixion Hel 14:20-27
Worst is the fact that the Book of Mormon contradicts other LDS scriptures:
One God: Book of Mormon: Alma 11:27-39, 44; 2 Nephi 31:21; Mormon 7:7; 3 Nephi 11:27 Testimony of the three witnesses
Plural Gods: Doctrine and Covenants: Section 121:32; 132:18-20, 37
God is a Spirit: B. of M.- Alma 18:26-28; 22:8-11
God Has a Body: D. & C.- Section 130:22
God Dwells in Heart: B. of M.- Alma 34:36
God Does Not Dwell in Heart: D. & C.- Section 130:3
Creation - One God: B. of M.- 2 Nephi 2:14; Jacob 4:9 Pearl of Great Price - Moses, Chapter 2
Creation - Plural Gods: Book of Abraham - Chapters 4 and 5
God Cannot Lie: B. of M.- Ether 3:12; 2 Nephi 9:34
God Commands Lying: P.G.P.- Book of Abraham 2:22-25
God's Word Unchangeable: B. of M.- Alma 41:8
God's Word Can Change: D. & C.- Section 56:4-5
No Pre-Existence of Man: B. of M.- Jacob 4:9; Alma 18:28, 34-36
Man Pre-Existed: D. & C.- Section 93:23, 29-33 P.G.P.- Bk of Abraham 3:18, 21-23
Death Seals Man's Fate: B. of M.- Mosiah 2:36-39; Alma 34:32-35
Chance After Death: D. & C.- Section 76:106-112; 88:99
Heathen Saved Without Baptism: B. of M.- Moroni 8:22-23 2 Nephi 9:25-26; Mosiah 15:24-27
Baptism for Dead: D. & C.- Section 128:5, 17-18
Heaven or Hell: B. of M.- 2 Nephi 28:22; 1 Nephi 15:35; Most SavedMosiah 16:11, 27:31; Alma 41:4-8, 42:16
Three Kingdoms in Heaven - Most Saved: D. & C.- Section 76:43, 70-112
Murder Can Be Forgiven: B. of M.- 3 Nephi 30:2
No Forgiveness For Murder: D. & C.- Section 42:18
Polygamy Condemned: B. of M.- Jacob 1:15, 2:24, 3:5; Mosiah 11:2
Polygamy Commanded: D. & C.- Section 132:1, 37-39, 61

http://www.bible.ca/mor-contradictions.htm

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27289 Jul 23, 2013
Youre a hick wrote:
Not to mention that 'started the Inquisition' and 'Destroyed the respectability of the Catholics' thing.
You people act like molesting half the Catholic boys in history is your right.
Queers are just evil, evil people. Ask some people who are in a religion full of queers how they liked being the third guy around the table getting molested: raped by rapist psychopaths who simply homolest their way through a career of unfireable and indeed TEAMWORK-driven, MOLESTINGS; taking the MONEY of the PARENTS of the CHILDREN you MOLESTED to HIRE a LAWYER to DEFEND YOURSELVES and EACH OTHER.
A bunch of goofy whores whose deepest thought is how many tattoos she can get and still be 'demure' the concept they are parading around as servants of the CHILD MOLESTERS might not seem all that relevant.
Obviously it doesn't to the goofy dope & denial addled whores seen here.
But that's how easy it is for Satan to infect and co-opt evil self absorbed, pleasure-seeking, self-justifying, whores. You're so easy he uses you as bait to draw others in. YOU COLLECT and GROOM CHILDREN to LIKE HOMOSEXUAL MOLESTERS.
Those TWO PERCENT who MOLEST THIRTY PERCENT of yas.
You're in here PARADING YOUR SUPPORT for CHILD MOLESTING HOMOLESTING PSYCHO-SOCIOPATHS who think
N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
of molesting several H.U.N.D.R.E.D. boys.
When a nation's women are the CHAMPIONS of the CHILD MOLESTERS
you know Satan's got you on a choke-chain so short you have to ask him permission to breathe in.
Poor Carol/Sportsmouse still having fantasies about being molested. Maybe even dreams of being raped.

Get a vibrator. Leave the little boys alone.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27290 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor Carol/Sportsmouse still having fantasies about being molested. Maybe even dreams of being raped.
Get a vibrator. Leave the little boys alone.
You are so lame... and need to get different bait.

The only Carol mentioned was by you. I think You are Dana/Carol. You are the only pervert molester that you should be worried about.

sportxmouse

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Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27291 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Peter was not a prophet. Was never called that in the New Testament. As for the Book of Mormon not contradicting the Bible. You need to study more. Here are a few contradictions:
Bible vs. Book of Mormon
Bible: Church began in 33 AD Mt 16:18 Acts 2
Book of Mormon: church began in 147BC, Mosiah 18:17
Bible: "disciples were first called Christians in Antioch" 40AD, Acts 11:26
Book of Mormon: Alma 46:13-16 supposedly written in 73BC refers to Nephites as Christians.
Bible: Jesus is only head of church Col 1:18
Book of Mormon: Joe Smith is head of Mormon church D&C 28:2-6
Bible: "Jesus was born in Bethlehem" Mt 2:1 + Mt 21:17
Book of Mormon: "He shall be born of Mary at Jerusalem" Alma 7:10
Bible: 3 hours of darkness at crucifixion Lk 23:44
Book of Mormon: 3 Days of darkness at crucifixion Hel 14:20-27
Worst is the fact that the Book of Mormon contradicts other LDS scriptures:
One God: Book of Mormon: Alma 11:27-39, 44; 2 Nephi 31:21; Mormon 7:7; 3 Nephi 11:27 Testimony of the three witnesses
Plural Gods: Doctrine and Covenants: Section 121:32; 132:18-20, 37
God is a Spirit: B. of M.- Alma 18:26-28; 22:8-11
God Has a Body: D. & C.- Section 130:22
God Dwells in Heart: B. of M.- Alma 34:36
God Does Not Dwell in Heart: D. & C.- Section 130:3
Creation - One God: B. of M.- 2 Nephi 2:14; Jacob 4:9 Pearl of Great Price - Moses, Chapter 2
Creation - Plural Gods: Book of Abraham - Chapters 4 and 5
God Cannot Lie: B. of M.- Ether 3:12; 2 Nephi 9:34
God Commands Lying: P.G.P.- Book of Abraham 2:22-25
God's Word Unchangeable: B. of M.- Alma 41:8
God's Word Can Change: D. & C.- Section 56:4-5
No Pre-Existence of Man: B. of M.- Jacob 4:9; Alma 18:28, 34-36
Man Pre-Existed: D. & C.- Section 93:23, 29-33 P.G.P.- Bk of Abraham 3:18, 21-23
Death Seals Man's Fate: B. of M.- Mosiah 2:36-39; Alma 34:32-35
Chance After Death: D. & C.- Section 76:106-112; 88:99
Heathen Saved Without Baptism: B. of M.- Moroni 8:22-23 2 Nephi 9:25-26; Mosiah 15:24-27
Baptism for Dead: D. & C.- Section 128:5, 17-18
Heaven or Hell: B. of M.- 2 Nephi 28:22; 1 Nephi 15:35; Most SavedMosiah 16:11, 27:31; Alma 41:4-8, 42:16
Three Kingdoms in Heaven - Most Saved: D. & C.- Section 76:43, 70-112
Murder Can Be Forgiven: B. of M.- 3 Nephi 30:2
No Forgiveness For Murder: D. & C.- Section 42:18
Polygamy Condemned: B. of M.- Jacob 1:15, 2:24, 3:5; Mosiah 11:2
Polygamy Commanded: D. & C.- Section 132:1, 37-39, 61
http://www.bible.ca/mor-contradictions.htm
You are giving scriptural references...

>when you do not even believe in Genesis.
>when you said you would KILL JESUS CHRIST if he taught the things that he taught that you don't believe in.
>you called God a retard, stupid
>you said you would KILL PROPHETS... who you proclaim to be false prophets because GOD told you to.
hhghghghg

Hengoed, UK

#27292 Jul 23, 2013
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“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#27293 Jul 23, 2013
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>That is where the problem is. There is a HUGE difference between tolerance and support. When are people going to understand that being gay is not a choice. It is simply who they are. It would be like discriminating against you for the color of your eyes.
Heavenly father loves us ALL.
I have watched the struggles of the gay community. No one chooses that. If we can not love and support our fellow human, then how are we keeping the commandments of Christ?
The command isn't to love/accept a specific part of a person, like their sexual orientation, or their eye color or skin color. And regardless of what a person did as Hitler or what the dark filthy things might be that they think of to say like nomo and dana, God/Jesus commanded us to love our neighbor regardless their status or who they were or had become. That was his challenge/command to us.

Leviticus 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Matt 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#27294 Jul 23, 2013
MomofMany wrote:
Why do you use the BOM? Peter used the word of God
Pologamy contradicts Gods word
The concept of paradise & heaven the BOM use are not found in the Bible
The structure of leadership in the BOM is not what the Bible says
I could go on
Are you frigging nuts? Did Jesus give Peter his own copy of the word of the Lord? Peter LEARNED of the word of the Lord BY LISTENING to what Jesus taught him. And Peter also prior to jesus used the law of Moses. As you ask why do Mormons use the BOM Jews will ask why do Christians use the NT?
And God authored polygamy on many occasions with several of his prophets/leaders. Never in a single instance will you read in the OT or the NT that marriage is a strict command from God to be of one man and one woman. It does mention marriage to be between a man and a woman and between a man and more than one woman. And it mentions God made laws for both types of marriages. Read the Bible.
The concept of paradise and heaven are in the Bible.
Christians deny the structure of the leadership Jesus established in his church.
Christians deny the existence/need for apostles and prophets Jesus set forth.
Christians deny the need for revelation to know the will of God.
Christians today tell people how they think God thinks and what he feels.
Christians today decide which commands to obey and which to not obey and you spend time criticizing Mormons?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#27295 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
As for the Book of Mormon not contradicting the Bible. You need to study more. Here are a few contradictions: Bible vs. Book of Mormon
A contradiction is what you make of it. If you think a contradiction proves a book wrong, than lets begin with the Bible, not the BOM.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_me...

Contradictions

God good to all, or just a few?
War or Peace?
Who is the father of Joseph?
Who was at the Empty Tomb?
Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
Which first, beasts or man?
How many stalls and horsemen?
Is it folly to be wise or not?
Human vs. ghostly impregnation
The sins of the father
Rabbits do not chew their cud
Fowl from waters or ground
Odd genetics
The shape of the earth
Snakes, while built low, do not eat dirt
Earth supported?
Heaven supported too
The hydrological cycle
Order of creation
Moses' personality
Righteous live?
Jesus' first sermon plain or mount?
Jesus' last words
Years of famine
Moved David to anger?
The genealogy of Jesus?
God be seen?
Cruel, unmerciful, destructive, and ferocious or kind, merciful, and good
Tempts?
Judas died how?
Ascend to heaven
What was Jesus' prediction regarding Peter's denial?
How many time did the cock crow?
How many beatitudes in the Sermon on the Mount
Does every man sin?
Who bought potter's field?
Who prophesied the potter's field?
Do you answer a fool?
How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
Marriage?
Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
Judging
Good deeds
For or against?
Whom did they see at the tomb?
God change?
Destruction of cities (what said was Jeremiah was Zechariah)
Whose sepulchers?
When second coming?
Solomon's overseers
The mother of Abijah
When did Baasha die?
How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
The differences in the census figures of Ezra and Nehemiah
What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
What did they give him to drink?
How long was Jesus in the tomb?

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27296 Jul 23, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you frigging nuts? Did Jesus give Peter his own copy of the word of the Lord? Peter LEARNED of the word of the Lord BY LISTENING to what Jesus taught him. And Peter also prior to jesus used the law of Moses. As you ask why do Mormons use the BOM Jews will ask why do Christians use the NT?
And God authored polygamy on many occasions with several of his prophets/leaders. Never in a single instance will you read in the OT or the NT that marriage is a strict command from God to be of one man and one woman. It does mention marriage to be between a man and a woman and between a man and more than one woman. And it mentions God made laws for both types of marriages. Read the Bible.
The concept of paradise and heaven are in the Bible.
Christians deny the structure of the leadership Jesus established in his church.
Christians deny the existence/need for apostles and prophets Jesus set forth.
Christians deny the need for revelation to know the will of God.
Christians today tell people how they think God thinks and what he feels.
Christians today decide which commands to obey and which to not obey and you spend time criticizing Mormons?
Wow... well said:

"Christians today tell people how they think God thinks and what he feels.

Christians today decide which commands to obey and which to not obey and you spend time criticizing Mormons?"

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#27297 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor Carol/Sportsmouse still having fantasies about being molested. Maybe even dreams of being raped.
Get a vibrator. Leave the little boys alone.
This comes from a sick mind!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27298 Jul 23, 2013
I agree, 100%

Provo’s Mormon temple makes list of ‘ugliest churches’

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfaithblog/5...

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#27299 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
I agree, 100%
Provo’s Mormon temple makes list of ‘ugliest churches’
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfaithblog/5...
You miss or purposefully miss important pieces of information, which is it?

Fletcher stated...

As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and this list, like all such assessments, is subjective. It favors more traditional religious architecture, while mocking modern expressions.

sportxmouse

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Since: Sep 12

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#27300 Jul 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
I agree, 100%
Provo’s Mormon temple makes list of ‘ugliest churches’
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsfaithblog/5...
It makes no difference what it looks like... during Moses time until Solomon they had a Traveling Quasi Temple (The Tabernacle - a 'TENT') where they performed the Lord's work.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27301 Jul 23, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
<quoted text>
It makes no difference what it looks like... during Moses time until Solomon they had a Traveling Quasi Temple (The Tabernacle - a 'TENT') where they performed the Lord's work.
Do you think it was a Coleman tent? By all means, let it be ugly. LOL!!!
Youre a hick

Gridley, CA

#27302 Jul 24, 2013
Each time a homosexual satanist tries to turn the ship of history to violation of the laws of the Lord, they heap coals upon their heads.
Each time they're told they're wrong, it's more.
That's why A.I.D.S. collects them like bugs in a zapper. The Lord won't be mocked.
Homosexual child molestor cheerleaders will be mocked.
Then go to hell and watch their own kind do every evil known, to mankind.
2% of men are homosexuals.
They RAPE/MOLEST more than 30 PERCENT of ALL MEN.
Contrast this to HETEROSEXUALS.
N.I.N.E.T.Y. FIVE to N.I.N.E.T.Y. S.E.V.E.N.
percent of HETEROSEXUAL MEN
only manage to RAPE/MOLEST 50% of WOMEN
TWENTY TIMES the NUMBER of HETEROS
molest fifteen percent more,
ALTHOUGH THEY ARE MOLESTING/RAPING a MORE VULNERABLE POPULATION of people: women.
5% of MEN rape THIRTY PERCENT.
as opposed to
95% of STRAIGHT PEOPLE
raping 50% of women. A MORE vulnerable population: culturally, physically, psychologically.
Homosexuals are the MOLESTERS of THE UNIVERSE.
Youre a hick

Gridley, CA

#27303 Jul 24, 2013
Dana decided teaching the truth to children didn't hold enough thrills so he set out to see how many he can be responsible for being molested before, and after he dies.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#27304 Jul 24, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think it was a Coleman tent? By all means, let it be ugly. LOL!!!
It doesn't matter what I think!

sportxmouse

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Since: Sep 12

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#27305 Jul 24, 2013
and it certainly doesn't matter what you think because you don't even believe in Genesis.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27306 Jul 24, 2013
Youre a hick wrote:
Dana decided teaching the truth to children didn't hold enough thrills so he set out to see how many he can be responsible for being molested before, and after he dies.
Still need that vibrator, I see Carol/Sportsmouse. No one is going to molest you today. LOL!!!

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#27307 Jul 24, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
and it certainly doesn't matter what you think because you don't even believe in Genesis.
I certainly believe the earth is more than 5,000 yrs old! LOL!!!

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