Are vitamins from USANA worth price?

[Ngalungalu]

USANAWatchDog wrote:

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Whatever you heard from your upline was grossly exaggerated.
Over the last 5 years, USANA spent roughly $19 million on Research and Development. During this same time, USANA's net revenues were almost $2.4 billion.
The last thing any USANA associate should do is brag about how much USANA spends on R&D.
a measly 0.7% of USANA's net revenues goes toward R&D, which is not what most people would call significant.
BTW, Myron Wenzt sold over $18 million in stock over the past 5 years. Just last month he sold over $700,000. Why do USANA distributors keep acting like Myron doesn't make anything? Many CEOs of companies take home a minimal amount of wages, but they rack in the dough through their stocks.
Besides, if Myron was really interested in spreading health, the products would be a fourth of the price and available in retail stores all over the world. Instead, the products are grossly overpriced, and only available through a distributorship which focuses more on selling a business opportunity rather than marketing the product.

The only time I'd ever met the Doctor, he was plastered and incoherent. That's not to say his products didn't work for me, which they did.

The products are obviously over-priced because of the business model. It has to cover everyone's paychecks. I'd still be using them now, if it weren't for that one thing... the price.

[usual4theusual]

1 word......NOPE

[Maricarmen Varela]

.http://www.forbes.com/sites/i nvestor/2011/12/07/whats-the-b est-sector-buffett-walmart-uni lever-coke/
USANA Still The Picture Of Health - Forbes
www.forbes.com
Looking for a good growth story that is trading at a discount? USANA Health Sciences could fit the bill.

[annon]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

If you haven't tried it before you cannot make a judgement. Doctors treat disease using medication, not nutrition.Usana's founder Dr Wentz is a scientist and a doctor.

[USANAWatchDog]

annon wrote:

<quoted text>Doctors treat disease using medication, not nutrition.

Who treats disease using nutrition???? A Nutritionist? Sure Vitamin C prevents scurvy, but that's a known fact. What treats heart disease, HIV, and other known diseases? Do you believe "nutrition" will prevent or cure these diseases??? I believe the only ones treating diseases like this with nutrition are snake-oil salesmen selling business opportunities.

annon wrote:

<quoted text>Usana's founder Dr Wentz is a scientist and a doctor.

According to Wikipedia:
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Wentz holds a B.Sc. degree in biology from North Central College in Naperville, Illinois, a M.Sc. degree in microbiology from the University of North Dakota, and a Ph.D. degree in microbiology and immunology from the University of Utah
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So, Myron Wentz is NOT a "doctor". He is NOT even a "nutritionist" either. He is a "microbiologist". What qualifies him to treat diseases better than any medical doctor? Why do you assume medical doctors don't know anything about nutrition or microbiology for that matter?

[Lety]

Personally I haven't tried much of the Usana products however the shower pack I did but and it's SO worth it. I've not had it for 2 months and I've barely made a mark in the amount that I use and has made my hair and skin feel a lot healthier then it was before. As for the vitamins, they have done wonders for a majority of friends I know use and sell the product. speaking from my observations it is one of the top health products in North America and is worth the price for the quality you get

[Brian]

David, I'm sorry this happened to you and your wife. The absolute max that you should have spent when you started was $1250.00 for the Professional pack -- most people get the Entreprenuer for $599.00 and you have (had?) the capacity to change your Autoship quota. It is unfortunate that your upline was a weasel and did not at a minimum provide training for you and assist you in building your business. At a minimum they should have helped you line up your first two downlines, so that you in turn would (karma) help the next level build their business. You should have had weekly or more frequent calls with them, at a bare minimum. Most USANA reps (in my experience) are actually trying to build a business rather than the run and dump syndrome that you experienced, and which gives direct marketing/MLM a bad name.

David M wrote:

Both my wife & I were in USANA and think that it's a scam. don't get me wrong. it's a good product, but the way how the rep or upline is trained really made me question them in the begining. Yes, they brought out a bunch of articles showing how superior USANA is compared to their competitors as well as how many illness & diseases it can cure like cancer, allergies, asthma, etc. also we were told how much money we would make and so on.
we bought over $3k worth of products the first day we signed on because our upline's upline told us that if we want to be able to make money and be in the business we needed to purchase a certain amount to be a distributor and we also needed to stock some of the products so we can demo & sell to potential customers.
we agreed to go the route that they sold us on since we are good friends with the rep (known her for 15+ years.)
After we got the products and started taking the supplements like we were instructed to, we started to ask what else this supplement or vitamin can help with since each thing helped with x problems or x disease.
we were told to take the list of supplements that they wrote down for us so we have a core to build up on. After that then we would talk about using the supplements to treat whatever problems.
It seemed like both of the reps didn't seem very knowledgeable on the products. all they cared about was selling. we were told that the products are organic, which they are and it's good.
the thing that had me worried was that I was told that since there is no preservatives and it's natural there is no shelf life so it doesn't expire. if it's all natural how come there is no expiration?
my wife was on the nutrimeals and our rep told us when she takes it, not to have any bread , carbs or sugar. The reps upline told her it's fine. so there was a conflict in info and this was in the same room.
to us it seems like the reps that we have met with, all they care is about signing people up and selling. the problem is that the rep didn't even train us on how to sell the items and what it's good for. there was no weekly meetings, trainings, etc. whenever we asked what supplement to take for whatever the symptoms, we were told I don't know look it up yourself.
it's been 4 years since this happened. we were with them for 2 years and ended up in the red. still have a bunch of USANA products since every month they automatically shipped and billed use over $500 worth of products. our rep would not by back the products from us when we left. when we contacted USANA we were told that there would be a 30% restocking fee plus we had to cover the shipping.
We are still taking the USANA products. like I said we think it's a scam if you go into the business. the product is good. if we can't find a better product after we are done, then we will continue to buy USANA supplements, but we will NEVER get into the business of selling their products.
BTW, the rep that got us into USANA, she is still constantly signing people up and people leave her team after a few months. She is still working her normal full time job.

[prodance]

Please refer to the following website for advice from Dr Strand about dosages of all the different vitamins for every illness and health concern.

http://www.brillianthealth.net/makemoneynow/n...

For information about integration health, nutrition and business, visit:

http://www.healthylivingbusiness.com

And,to visit USANA go to: http://www.healthylivingbusiness.usana.com

[heheh]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

Choo Choo you are a bullshit!!!! You don't know what you are taking about and that proves that you are the "scam!" You are a complete example of what a dumb person is! before you say anything else, Research about this topic ok?! Stop being a crap! that is just plain common sense ok?! Man you are dumb! Read the book called " "Comparative guide"!

[hhehe]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

you are a scam!!!1 you are a dumb bullshit and you have no common sense! research first, have a look at the comparative guide and then say what you have to say!

[USANAWatchDog]

hhehe wrote:

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you are a scam!!!1 you are a dumb bullshit and you have no common sense! research first, have a look at the comparative guide and then say what you have to say!

Gregg Gies was responsible for the "Research, Editing and Layout" for every edition of the Comparative Guide to Nutritional Supplements since 1999. Gregg Gies was co-owner of NutriSearch (company selling the comparative guide). Gregg Gies was also a USANA distributor ID#285320. USANA was ranked #1 in every edition of the Comparative Guide. www.usanawatchdog.blogspot.com

The book is totally worthless and is nothing more than a sales tool for USANA distributors. The book is used as an independent source of information by USANA and its associates. You want to talk about a scam? Perhaps you should eat your own words.

[USANA]

USANA products are effective myself as well as my family all use it and it has helped alot. Dr Myron Wentz has a PhD in Immunology which is the study of the Immune system therefore he knows what he is doing and it is not a scam maybe you should meet him and see whether it is or not

[MichPro]

Ask your medical practitioner to look in the PDR, the real PDR... USANA is in the REAL PDR. These supplements are not a scam and you are making a ridiculous claim. Pharmaceutical grade makes them different and the FDA and MANY DOCTORS know this! Think BEFORE you speak!

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

[USANAWatchDog]

MichPro wrote:

Ask your medical practitioner to look in the PDR, the real PDR... USANA is in the REAL PDR. These supplements are not a scam and you are making a ridiculous claim. Pharmaceutical grade makes them different and the FDA and MANY DOCTORS know this! Think BEFORE you speak!
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There are several Physician Desk References. The one most supplements are in is the PDR for Supplements and Herbs, which is the appropriate PAID advertisement to list the vitamins. Instead, USANA chose to be listed in the PDR for Drugs, which is not an appropriate area to print their PAID advertisement.

I've spoken to Thomson Healthcare about this (the authors) and they told me it was USANA's decision where to publish the information and that they do not personally check the validity of the advertisements. Also, the PDR does NOT offer any credibility to USANA's products (like USANA claimed before getting a warning from the PDR authors).

when you stated "Pharmaceutical grade makes them different and the FDA and MANY DOCTORS know this!" This is a common misunderstanding amongst USANA distributors. What you and pretty much every distributor fail to understand is that USANA's products are NOT Pharmaceutical Grade. They are only voluntarily manufacturing according to "Pharmaceutical Good Manufacturing Practices". That doesn't mean the products are pharmaceutical grade.

It's a shame that USANA doesn't actually train their distributors correctly...

[Cheryl]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than
eople hawking gimmicks on these board?

I have found most doctors know little to nothing about nutrition. they want to put u on a pill for depression, high blood pressure,not my answer.

[loki]

work-out-eat-well wrote:

I made it a point to ask my Dr. when Usana was offered to me for a mere 70.00 for a one month supply. He said nothing (from Usana) has went thru human testing and it only costs about a buck to manufacture what they are charging 70.00 for. As with any miracle cure, a lot of it is what your brain thinks the vitamin/drug/whatever will do for you.

Did you ask him then why prenatal vitamins are so much money? After all doctors prescribe them and they are spendy. Quality costs, anyone in business knows this.
Also, not a usana member or.whatever

[Sherray]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

I wouldn't ask any medical practitioner because they are trained in PHARMACEUTICALS only. They diagnose and prescribe medication. Have you ever had an MD prescribe vitamins and minerals to you, unless he/she is a holistic or natural medicine practitioner? MDs do not have time to keep up on all that is out there.

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[Pam]

Choo-Choo wrote:

Sounds like a scam to me. Why not ask your medical practitioner who has been to medical school, attends board conferences and is most likely up to date on current trends than people hawking gimmicks on these board?

The problem with relying on medical doctors to decide on your on your vitamins, or healthcare for that matter, is that they are trained by the pharmaceutical companies which produce synthetic products. Pharmaceutical companies fund the medical schools and are the ones who put on the medical conferences. It's a conflict of interest.

[Mary Jane in Salt Lake]

Big pharma will push and push with their big $ to get supplements out of our hands. They are even now sending trolls everywhere to get people in fear of supplements. They want you on their drugs, period. But more and more people are waking up to this fact. Prescription drugs can do wonders, but to stay healthy and not give your money to the corporate doctor and big pharma is becoming the way of the enlightened world.