LDS Apostle visited Tonga

LDS Apostle visited Tonga

There are 29809 comments on the Matangi Tonga story from Feb 24, 2014, titled LDS Apostle visited Tonga. In it, Matangi Tonga reports that:

Elder Neil L. Andersen, a member of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Salt Lake City, During their short stay in Tonga, the Apostle met and counseled church leaders to hasten the work of the Lord in Tonga.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Matangi Tonga.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#9201 Aug 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
<quoted text>
Joey's wife Emma had a complete shit-fit when she discovered Joey's antics.
The gig was up.
So Joey had another revelation: the spirit of God was upon him, forced him into polygamy.
D&C 132:61: "And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood–if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else."
Ugh. Mormons....

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9202 Aug 4, 2014
piratefighting wrote:
<quoted text>
i see dana and nomo has convinced you i am marysville...
that is not true... and i don't do the things you claim... and no you are the one that said you had a mental illness... and i follow god... and you're welcome for the education lesson.
WTF?

Although warped, Marysville's writing reflects half a brain. Conversely, you are not a grammar geek. That makes you two different posters.

I read your posts with a jaundiced eye, an itch to judge.

So far, I have refrained from critiquing your writing. But by claiming to be a university graduate, you've given me no option. I must defend the honor of true college graduates.

While proper English and spelling should not be a reflection of creativity or intelligence, let's face it — it usually is.

Your writing sucks but you can learn under the influence of my bold brilliance.

And learn about the Wanderer mystique that leads all women to my bed.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#9203 Aug 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to explain why so many women agreed to 'pretend' marriages with Joey.
Either Smith convinced the women they would spend eternity as his spiritual wife, the women were lustful or Joey was hot to trot. You can't have it all ways. Which is it?
Sorry, I had to cut portions of your thesis. Obviously it doesn't matter. If you wish to abandon all logic, that's your business. I'm just pointing it out.
Can't wait to hear this one myself.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9204 Aug 4, 2014
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, My ex brother Inlaw has a terrible case of id right this very moment. I talked to him for quite a while last night at a party and he's barely able to manage it. Bless his heart, his id is wreaking havoc, his symptoms would make you cringe! I hope mouse tells us how she was cured of such an uncontrollable condition.
This info will truly be an "education lesson"
I suspect Mouse loves Harry Potter.

Reality is wrong, fantasies are real.

"What we achieve inwardly will change outer reality." Plutarch

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#9205 Aug 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
<quoted text>
You're trying to emulate your model for morality, Joseph Smith, yes?
Science wants to know how you eliminated your id thus overturning Sigmund Freud's theory.
Did you also eradicate your ego and superego?
I learn so much on Topix. Thanks.
Bachelors degree? You never read your diploma, right? It's bachelor's degree, the apostrophe indicates possession. By chance did you also earn a master's degree?
Sorry, I know this fucks up your fantasy vision of self.
You might want to try honesty. That would be refreshing.
She must have gotten her degree from "Whatsmatter U!"

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9206 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one making up crap about people, and you claim she is telling lies?
Fantasy, the creative imperative, is a wonderful ingredient in one's life.

I have one foot in fantasy, the other in reality.

Mouse has both feet in the Magical World of Disney.

Goofy is her best friend.

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9207 Aug 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Ugh. Mormons....
Good to read you.

Welcome back from your vacation.

Did you get laid?

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9208 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't wait to hear this one myself.
I'm a firm believer in patterns.

NoSurpriseSteppedInShit contradicts himself regularly.

His entire life is a contradiction, a rejection of self, an attempt to be something he's not through sheer will-power and control. My hat is off to him; he's one powerful man.

The fraud he tries to peddle is his belief that all of Joey's wives were 'pretend' marriages, a subjective position in opposition to objective evidence.

I actually like him; he tries his damndest but is lost.

Since: Dec 13

Location hidden

#9209 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
I have proven it several times, and your church admits it with Smith's genealogy. But the evidence is overwhelming. You can start here:
http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no66.htm#OTHE...
His genealogy by the lds church is here:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/M18D-5C...
Note how many were married to him during his lifetime, before you give me fairytales about it happening after he died.
Another biased blog, u mightiest will link us directly to your websites of hate. C'mon man, we know Joseph was a polygamist n t false claims made by those women were ill founded, now show us t money, or give it a rest.

Your failed attempts at trying to pervert t act of plural marriage in contrast to same sex marriage must leave a bad taste in your mouth. Homosexuality is sin n was never advocated by God Almighty neither his only begotten son JC or any of their holy servants called forth to establish n uphold their doctrine. Those ancestry records are no big deal, that's why they r made available to t public, you've got to do better than this Columbo, lololol. Good day my my good man n I'll b waiting.

Since: Dec 13

Location hidden

#9210 Aug 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm a firm believer in patterns.
NoSurpriseSteppedInShit contradicts himself regularly.
His entire life is a contradiction, a rejection of self, an attempt to be something he's not through sheer will-power and control. My hat is off to him; he's one powerful man.
The fraud he tries to peddle is his belief that all of Joey's wives were 'pretend' marriages, a subjective position in opposition to objective evidence.
I actually like him; he tries his damndest but is lost.
C'mon council, if your gonna make claims against t opposing side, please admit some objective evidence as u so claim, my friend.

In contrast to your claim that "through sheer will-power and control, NS's entire life is a contradiction", I must remind you, that though t both of you may differ in circumstances, your are n admitted ex-con who has become a lawyer, if that is not a contradiction I don't know what is.

As for your claims that Joseph's wives, whether they were traditional or restricted to paper only by Emma is void. If there were evidence corroborating these claims from actual journal entries offered through writing from t Prophet himself n Emma or even birth certificates of children as a result of these unions to substantiate t claims, but none has been offered up, which makes it just here say or rumors.

So to accuse NS of being a fraud in the absence of evidence is a complete failure especially for you. Lololol

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#9211 Aug 4, 2014
tongangodz wrote:
<quoted text>
As for your claims that Joseph's wives, whether they were traditional or restricted to paper only by Emma is void. If there were evidence corroborating these claims from actual journal entries offered through writing from t Prophet himself n Emma or even birth certificates of children as a result of these unions to substantiate t claims, but none has been offered up, which makes it just here say or rumors.
Then help me out here buddy.

If Joey only had sexual relations with Mrs. Joey, then Brigham lied about 'The Principle' behind polygamy since he had issue (children) with many of his 'pretend' wives or Smith also fornicated with some of his 'spiritual' wives.

One of the 'prophets' is lying. Which one?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#9212 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You whine about the accurate description of Smith's actions, but justify those profane actions, even pretend they are the normal day to day actions of a prophet of God. I guest it's OK to you to fuck other men wives as long as you don't say it? It's no sin to tell the truth. You being a polite pervert justifying the sick actions of a sicko man who uses and abuses the good name of Jesus Christ to just fuck, steal and build glory to himself still makes you a hypocritical pervert. I will gladly face Jesus with the blunt honesty of my language any day of the week instead of making excuses to deny his clear teachings and perversion of his Gospel.
Know what? With someone like you to profane what an actual Christian is by you claiming to be one, you're the reason Christianity gets the black eye it receives. And according to the NT, you have far removed yourself from Jesus or having any connection to him that he would approve of. You're as vulgar and filthy in thought as the priests who contended against Jesus and he thought very, very low of them all and called them snakes I believe for how they thought and spoke.
And umm, I whine about you choosing to be vulgar and profane over not choosing to not being vulgar and not being profane, get it correct of what I whine about at least eh? lol.

You can discuss Smith and his sex life without all the vulgarities. Unfortunately you have issues with being able to do that, to speak of Smith without all the vulgarities. But you like vulgarities it is quite evident to understand. You think your vulgarities are going to hurt a guy that's been dead for over a century. But all your vulgarities prove is your a vulgar individual who speaks to his wife as such and directly and indirectly has taught his daughter being vulgar is where it's at. Unless you pull some of that hypocritical BS at home? Telling your daughter don't speak as I speak and don't ask me why if I do it because I tell you not to.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#9213 Aug 4, 2014
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, when you wrote NT, I knew what you meant. So, god says he will do that for those he deems deserving, yet you let elderly temple workers dole them out use a rotating list . It's like making your own Boy Scout badges and claiming you earned them.
http://www.fullerconsideration.com/templename...
You're really quite the busy body aren't you. I would bet you're the person anyone new to the neighborhood would be warned of because if there was news to be known about of anyone in that neighborhood, especially good sucky gossip, you knew it first.
That said, why does it bother you that these people give themselves another name? You did it here on Topix. You gave your self other nick names on other sites. What is the difference to you? Why does it matter to you? Them creating a name for them self has not a fricking thing to do with you yet like a busy body hard at work you make it your business to find offense with what they do of a name.
Is your world really, trully that fricking boring and pathetic? That you find time to complain that people in a temple give themselves nick names like you do out here on websites? Please tell me that isn't how it is for you? Because I don't think you can tell me anything then what you've proved, that you'll be such a fricking busy body to whine and complain and toss stones at people in a religious setting that are given a nick name yet you do the same thing and think nothing of it.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#9214 Aug 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>You're really quite the busy body aren't you. I would bet you're the person anyone new to the neighborhood would be warned of because if there was news to be known about of anyone in that neighborhood, especially good sucky gossip, you knew it first.
That said, why does it bother you that these people give themselves another name? You did it here on Topix. You gave your self other nick names on other sites. What is the difference to you? Why does it matter to you? Them creating a name for them self has not a fricking thing to do with you yet like a busy body hard at work you make it your business to find offense with what they do of a name.
Is your world really, trully that fricking boring and pathetic? That you find time to complain that people in a temple give themselves nick names like you do out here on websites? Please tell me that isn't how it is for you? Because I don't think you can tell me anything then what you've proved, that you'll be such a fricking busy body to whine and complain and toss stones at people in a religious setting that are given a nick name yet you do the same thing and think nothing of it.
Oh, so you can't explain why a bunch of elderly temple workers are using a rotating list of "new" names when god said that was his job? Don't you think that's a little sacrilegious? God's probably pissed. You wanna be gods trying to tell the almighty how to conduct his business..

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#9215 Aug 4, 2014
Wanderer2452 wrote:
<quoted text>I suspect Mouse loves Harry Potter.

Reality is wrong, fantasies are real.

"What we achieve inwardly will change outer reality." Plutarch
And chemicals make it all ok

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9216 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Because Judas killed himself after Jesus was arrested. Just how was he going to still be an Apostle?
Matt 27
27 Now when morning came, all the chief priests and the elders of the people conferred together against Jesus to put Him to death; 2 and they bound Him, and led Him away and delivered Him to Pilate the governor.
3 Then when Judas, who had betrayed Him, saw that He had been condemned, he felt remorse and returned the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 saying,“I have sinned by betraying innocent blood.” But they said,“What is that to us? See to that yourself!” 5 And he threw the pieces of silver into the temple sanctuary and departed; and he went away and hanged himself.
I don't know how you could have gotten even a high school diploma with your inability to get even one thing straight. But please prove me wrong by showing that verse that said John asked if a dead man should still be an Apostle.
yes after but go read john it was not immediately after like people pose in other sects of religion... you must know the entirety to know the fullness of the gospel.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#9217 Aug 4, 2014
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I've repeated time and again that Christianity is a corrupt dark path. I've stated Christians invaded this land, expanded, killing everything in their path in order to conquer and cultivate it...... And you come back with claiming I think Christians were dedicated to never hurting a human soul? This is why, at times I hesitate to converse with you.
No. You don't get this. I understand that of you. I was saying you seem to think that the people calling themselves Christians who came here and raped and murdered their way from coast to coast had a Bible in one hand and spoke and displayed all the great characters of a true Christian while doing those things. That is what I said.
Christianity is no more of a corrupt dark path then say your thinking and logic.
People are corrupt.
People create dark paths to follow like Dana and Nomo with their 100% negative vile filthy remarks and they're like that without a religion causing them to be that way. They are like that because they like to be that way. Understand?
Yes, people identifying themselves as Christians came to this land and literally raped and murdered both the land and the indigenous people living here. That is true.
But most of the people calling themselves Christians could never be identified as such by their words and actions, understand? Like Dana for a perfect example. Dana like most of those who first came here claimed to be Christian. But they didn't obey Christian standards and they certainly didn;t live by the words of Jesus concerning how to treat a brother and sister.
People like Dana with his negative attitude about the life and limb of others who weren't actual Christians were a dime a dozen. They raped, robbed and murdered their way from the east coast to the west coast. They made their own laws and rules as they went on from place to place.
Those that fell under the actual definition of a "Christian" they usually didn't live very long here. They were seen as weak by people like Dana and were used and or killed off by people like Dana.
And I use Dana as an example of frontier mentality because he reflects it. Vulgar, crass, speaks of murdering those he doesn't like, speaks of agreeing with certain forms of rape and robbery committed upon those he hates and loathes as was done with the indigenous people from the east to west coasts by non-Christian mentalies.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9218 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one making up crap about people, and you claim she is telling lies?
please re-read this post v- how many questions did i ask her... asking a question is not claiming anything... it is simply asking a question to clarify the truth... if she tells us the truth.

there was a post where i asked a question before this one... my first question was which religious sect do you belong to... i've asked the question 4 ot 5 times... she won't answer.. my first statement was regarding that question...

piratefighting wrote:
<quoted text>
it must be because you pray to the rain gods that was my first guess and you have not said otherwise... so i guess perhaps i'm right.

???????? and i asked if you were not a prostitute and you say you were in the sex industry...

????????how so...

???????? what did you do...

????????were you in the porn industry?

????????what is it you...

you want to spread lies and harass others but you don't want to tell the truth about yourself...

just spit it out mrs pearl.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9219 Aug 4, 2014
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
No. You don't get this. I understand that of you. I was saying you seem to think that the people calling themselves Christians who came here and raped and murdered their way from coast to coast had a Bible in one hand and spoke and displayed all the great characters of a true Christian while doing those things. That is what I said.
Christianity is no more of a corrupt dark path then say your thinking and logic.
People are corrupt.
People create dark paths to follow like Dana and Nomo with their 100% negative vile filthy remarks and they're like that without a religion causing them to be that way. They are like that because they like to be that way. Understand?
Yes, people identifying themselves as Christians came to this land and literally raped and murdered both the land and the indigenous people living here. That is true.
But most of the people calling themselves Christians could never be identified as such by their words and actions, understand? Like Dana for a perfect example. Dana like most of those who first came here claimed to be Christian. But they didn't obey Christian standards and they certainly didn;t live by the words of Jesus concerning how to treat a brother and sister.
People like Dana with his negative attitude about the life and limb of others who weren't actual Christians were a dime a dozen. They raped, robbed and murdered their way from the east coast to the west coast. They made their own laws and rules as they went on from place to place.
Those that fell under the actual definition of a "Christian" they usually didn't live very long here. They were seen as weak by people like Dana and were used and or killed off by people like Dana.
And I use Dana as an example of frontier mentality because he reflects it. Vulgar, crass, speaks of murdering those he doesn't like, speaks of agreeing with certain forms of rape and robbery committed upon those he hates and loathes as was done with the indigenous people from the east to west coasts by non-Christian mentalies.
the spaniards came to this land and tried to conquer it before columbus came...

she won't admit that...

she won't admit that before the spaniards came the indians believed in god... and they were persecuted by the spaniards for it... and forced into their religion... that is why the fighting started...

she either won't admit it or hasn't educated herself regarding it.

“Duty is a Privilege! ”

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#9220 Aug 4, 2014
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
He never told them to marry women that were already married. And what does what is legal in some countries have to do with what God taught? You can find a lot of sick things that are legal in some other country.
your answer is just insane and stupid... not worth reading.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Salt Lake City Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News EXCLUSIVE: Utah police chiefs meet to talk immi... (Aug '10) May 15 Sebastion 17
dispen-sary 24/7 A d d y s IRs n XR etc May 15 Trouver 1
White men! Date a woman with bi-racial kids? (May '11) May 14 Not fooled 132
News Mormons: We are Christians, too (Apr '07) May 12 MORONI 28,908
Message To Mormons ( REPENT ) REPENT May 12 repent repent 5
LATTER DAY SAINT REVIVAL ( REPENT ) now May 12 repent repent 5
God Became Flesh ( JEHOVA BECAME FLESH) May 12 repent repent 4

Salt Lake City Jobs

Personal Finance

Salt Lake City Mortgages