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#20186 Sep 22, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Do you mean like the war in Iraq?
And Afghanistan?

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#20187 Sep 22, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Do you mean like the war in Iraq?
The sad reality is that wars stimulate the economy. Spending tax dollars to "freshen up" private stadiums, as well as stimulus bills, do not.

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#20188 Sep 22, 2012
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>We do all need others to live. Yes, this is a good point. It takes the whole of the society to raise a child and it takes the whole of the society for us as adults to live as we do. A village is our society. Government is part of that society.
And what is stupid about this? It is just a fact of life. You do not seem to agree it is a fact of life. Now that is the stupid part.
Not sure what the 'indentured servant' comment had to do with anything.
It takes a village/society to raise a child. That's some of the most socialistic bull crap that I've ever heard.
Waco 1954

United States

#20189 Sep 23, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> It takes a village/society to raise a child. That's some of the most socialistic bull crap that I've ever heard.
To you I'll bet it would be.
Waco 1954

United States

#20190 Sep 23, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> The sad reality is that wars stimulate the economy. Spending tax dollars to "freshen up" private stadiums, as well as stimulus bills, do not.
Charlotte is a second rate city trying to move up in the world.I'd guess that spending tax dollars on the stadium might even bring in some tax dollars if more people go to the stadium as a result and spend money.I'd also venture that no one gets killed or maimed.Wars for economic stimulation are IMMORAL AS THEY RESULT IN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! Anybody that wants to march someone elses kid off to war to pad their bank account should be shot between the eyes.

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#20191 Sep 23, 2012
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text> Charlotte is a second rate city trying to move up in the world.I'd guess that spending tax dollars on the stadium might even bring in some tax dollars if more people go to the stadium as a result and spend money.I'd also venture that no one gets killed or maimed.Wars for economic stimulation are IMMORAL AS THEY RESULT IN DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! Anybody that wants to march someone elses kid off to war to pad their bank account should be shot between the eyes.
Waco, you know you're my buddy; however, you live in Texas and you tell us about Texas and that's all good, but I can chunk a rock to the BoFA Stadium and I believe Pro and I both know more about Charlotte. Charlotte is a second rate city and sprucing up a stadium for a second rate pro football team, still doesn't mean there's parking to accommodate the stadium. A quarter of downtown needs to be razed as we speak just to accommodate people that work there. There's no where to park. That's kind of like cleaning up the inside of your house and then outside having junk cars, washing machines and grass six feet tall in your frontyard. It might look good once you get in as long as you don't have to go back out. We're on our second coliseum, Time Warner Arena, privately funded) to accommodate a last place NBA team. Last year the Bobcats were so desperate for fans they sold tickets for $5 and still over half the arena was empty. Let's face it, nobody likes losers. Now, there's talk of wanting an MLB team. We'll have to see how that one works out.
Waco, I don't like war any better than the next person; however, signing up for the military is still on a voluntary basis, no draft in place. If people are tired of wars in our country and no one signs up, then maybe they'll get the message.

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#20192 Sep 23, 2012
Waco 1954 wrote:
<quoted text> To you I'll bet it would be.
Waco, I know you don't have children and you don't understand that it doesn't take a "village" or "society" to raise our children. It doesn't take a village or society to get them here, normally the parents can do this on their own without help from either. This idea that everyone owes someone else for everything that happens in their life is silly. If my kid was underage and would go out and kill or hurt someone driving drunk are they going to call the automobile maker, the makers of the alcohol consumed or the roads "we didn't build", the DMV for giving them a license? As I stated in another post that Mike doesn't get, this type of reasoning means even as adults we're still using "roads we didn't build" and all that baloney, so basically we're indenturted servants because we still owe everyone else except ourselves for everything that has happened in our lives.(and that last sentence could be my longest run-on sentence to date, thank God for commas.):)

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#20193 Sep 23, 2012
Pro-American wrote:
<quoted text> The sad reality is that wars stimulate the economy. Spending tax dollars to "freshen up" private stadiums, as well as stimulus bills, do not.
Did Bush invade Iraq to stimulate the economy?
Taxpayer

Raleigh, NC

#20194 Sep 23, 2012
Collectivism includes the sacrificing of the individual to serve the collective, and the conscription of the individualís labor to serve the interests of the collective via coercive taxation under threats of violence, i.e. involuntary servitude.

Individualism, on the other hand, includes the protection of the rights of the individual to self-ownership, the right to be free from the aggression and intrusion of others, the sanctity of justly acquired private property, and voluntary exchange, voluntary association and voluntary contracts.

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#20195 Sep 23, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Waco, I know you don't have children and you don't understand that it doesn't take a "village" or "society" to raise our children. It doesn't take a village or society to get them here, normally the parents can do this on their own without help from either. This idea that everyone owes someone else for everything that happens in their life is silly. If my kid was underage and would go out and kill or hurt someone driving drunk are they going to call the automobile maker, the makers of the alcohol consumed or the roads "we didn't build", the DMV for giving them a license? As I stated in another post that Mike doesn't get, this type of reasoning means even as adults we're still using "roads we didn't build" and all that baloney, so basically we're indenturted servants because we still owe everyone else except ourselves for everything that has happened in our lives.(and that last sentence could be my longest run-on sentence to date, thank God for commas.):)
Listen, don't take your kids to church or to school anymore since those institutions are part of the village. Raise all of your own food and don't dare go to the grocery store to find food. Also grow your own cotton, and herd your own sheep for wool and make your own clothes. Don't drive around in a car since that was manufactored by the village, and for God sake, don't have neighbors or friends that give their advice and voice of experience for the betterment of your children. As you conservatives say, "No, it doesn't take a village". That is all Hillary Clinton socialist talk. Another piece of your conservative out of touch illusion. Try this just for one week to test your theory.

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#20196 Sep 23, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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Listen, don't take your kids to church or to school anymore since those institutions are part of the village. Raise all of your own food and don't dare go to the grocery store to find food. Also grow your own cotton, and herd your own sheep for wool and make your own clothes. Don't drive around in a car since that was manufactored by the village, and for God sake, don't have neighbors or friends that give their advice and voice of experience for the betterment of your children. As you conservatives say, "No, it doesn't take a village". That is all Hillary Clinton socialist talk. Another piece of your conservative out of touch illusion. Try this just for one week to test your theory.
Arnold, I didn't call Hillary a socialist, but after over a week of lying about what happened in Libya, I will call her a liar. Why should I take Hillary's advice? She's done such a fine job brokering peace in the middle east. Looks like they don't want her telling them how to it takes a village to raise their children or run their countries. I know the Clintons have the "village" mentality, because Bill had a roll in the hay with every woman in their village.

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#20197 Sep 23, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Arnold, I didn't call Hillary a socialist, but after over a week of lying about what happened in Libya, I will call her a liar. Why should I take Hillary's advice? She's done such a fine job brokering peace in the middle east. Looks like they don't want her telling them how to it takes a village to raise their children or run their countries. I know the Clintons have the "village" mentality, because Bill had a roll in the hay with every woman in their village.
You divert. Can you refute anything that I said in the previous post about the village? That is the issue at hand.

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#20198 Sep 23, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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You divert. Can you refute anything that I said in the previous post about the village? That is the issue at hand.
Oh yes I can. I had my bath in a the water I carried from the creek and heated up and used the lye soap which is all natural. I just finished cooking one of the chickens we raised that I killed and plucked yesterday. Cooked it in a big ole black kettle outside over an open fire. Cooked them arsh potatoes we raised, and made stuffing out of the corn we grew and ran through the corn mill powered by water. Just before putting on clothes I made by hand from the cotton we grew and picked and we'll be having church at home. Home schooled my daughter and she's the local doctor that will be making house calls in her buggy we made pulled by a horse. Also, finished coloring my hair with henna made from the plants we raised.

Can you refute anything I just said? Plenty of people live this way.

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#20199 Sep 23, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Oh yes I can. I had my bath in a the water I carried from the creek and heated up and used the lye soap which is all natural. I just finished cooking one of the chickens we raised that I killed and plucked yesterday. Cooked it in a big ole black kettle outside over an open fire. Cooked them arsh potatoes we raised, and made stuffing out of the corn we grew and ran through the corn mill powered by water. Just before putting on clothes I made by hand from the cotton we grew and picked and we'll be having church at home. Home schooled my daughter and she's the local doctor that will be making house calls in her buggy we made pulled by a horse. Also, finished coloring my hair with henna made from the plants we raised.
Can you refute anything I just said? Plenty of people live this way.
That's ridiculous. "Plenty of people live this way." You can't even name one. The only people who live this way are rare cases in totally isolated regions of the Appalachian mountains, even if that. We all are influened and helped on our path by the village. Even the private school that you sent your daughter to was part of the village because that is where her teachers came from. Please don't go to church today. That, afterall, is a part of the village.

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#20200 Sep 23, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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That's ridiculous. "Plenty of people live this way." You can't even name one. The only people who live this way are rare cases in totally isolated regions of the Appalachian mountains, even if that. We all are influened and helped on our path by the village. Even the private school that you sent your daughter to was part of the village because that is where her teachers came from. Please don't go to church today. That, afterall, is a part of the village.
You asked and answered your own question. The people in the Appalachian Mountains. I told you, we'll be having church at home today and the music will be provided by the instruments we made by hand. Toodles Arnold,:) By the way, we're on web can, like on the Progresso Soup commercial. The small cans on a string are used for phone calls and the larger cans are used for web cans.

One last thing, Hillary is still a liar. Not diverting, stating a fact.

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#20201 Sep 23, 2012
And...for God's sake, get all the children out of church today. That is the village that is influencing them.

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#20202 Sep 23, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
And...for God's sake, get all the children out of church today. That is the village that is influencing them.
Arnold, didn't know you were anti-church now? Why always with all the scripture? If churches are influencing children with scriptures, what's your problem? You attempt to do the same.

Arnold, you know I was joking with you in the above posts. My mom wasn't highly educated but she had a lot of wisdom. She used to tell me, "you'll find out later on down the road at the end of the day, the only person that's going to look after Bacon is Bacon." She's right. When push comes to shove and it will, nobody but Bacon is going to look after Bacon. It'll be every man for himself and God for us all.

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#20203 Sep 23, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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You asked and answered your own question. The people in the Appalachian Mountains. I told you, we'll be having church at home today and the music will be provided by the instruments we made by hand. Toodles Arnold,:) By the way, we're on web can, like on the Progresso Soup commercial. The small cans on a string are used for phone calls and the larger cans are used for web cans.
One last thing, Hillary is still a liar. Not diverting, stating a fact.
And of the very small percentage of people who live this way in Appalachiacia, you still can't name anyone you personally know, so your theory is shot. You don't attend church at home, you attend in the village, and take the words of the village preacher as being gospel. Go ahead and admit defeat. It, in fact, does take a village. Very, very few in our society live in isolation. Can you name me one person who does? No, you can't.

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#20204 Sep 23, 2012
Makin bacon wrote:
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Arnold, didn't know you were anti-church now? Why always with all the scripture? If churches are influencing children with scriptures, what's your problem? You attempt to do the same.
Arnold, you know I was joking with you in the above posts. My mom wasn't highly educated but she had a lot of wisdom. She used to tell me, "you'll find out later on down the road at the end of the day, the only person that's going to look after Bacon is Bacon." She's right. When push comes to shove and it will, nobody but Bacon is going to look after Bacon. It'll be every man for himself and God for us all.
Don't even try to go there with the "anti church" business. I said nothing whatsoever that was anti church , anti religion, or anti scripture. You are trying to twist words into "facts" like truth used to do. You only resort to this tactic when you lose the discusssion, which obviously you have.

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#20205 Sep 23, 2012
Arnold-Ziffel wrote:
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And of the very small percentage of people who live this way in Appalachiacia, you still can't name anyone you personally know, so your theory is shot. You don't attend church at home, you attend in the village, and take the words of the village preacher as being gospel. Go ahead and admit defeat. It, in fact, does take a village. Very, very few in our society live in isolation. Can you name me one person who does? No, you can't.
Arnold, I could make up a name of a person and you wouldn't know if they were real. Why does giving you a name matter? I could say John Smith and you wouldn't know because he's in isolation, no phone number etc for you to verify. There are actually people who live off the grid and they're not only in the Appalachian Mountains. I'm not admitting defeat because you haven't proven your point.

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