Repeal of LGBT protections to be on Nov. 6 ballot

Sep 10, 2012 | Posted by: Rick in Kansas | Full story: www.saljournal.com

An ordinance that protects gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people from discrimination in Salina will go on the ballot in November.

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I certainly hope that they also put on the ballot a vote to repeal the protections of Baptists, Jews, blacks, Asians, Italians, Hungarians, and Norwegians next !

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FaFoxy wrote:
I certainly hope that they also put on the ballot a vote to repeal the protections of Baptists, Jews, blacks, Asians, Italians, Hungarians, and Norwegians next !B
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Most are narrow minded Baptists or others who interpret Biblical Scripture literally;and,don't even know the true meaning of what a Christian is?
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It's all in the wording: semantics.

Watch closely as gay activists spin and weave semantics to deconstruct reality. Manufactured crisis', victim-mongering, crassly riding the victimhood coattails of Blacks.

You must be mindful of the true implications of what gay activists are seeking with this ordinance.

This kind of lobby enables, for example, cross-dressers to publicly live out fully the gender identity of their choice and criminalizes anyones objection to such bizarreness. It enables an enviornment in which a hairy-legged man in a dress will be running your kids' daycare. Or that same cross-dresser having full access to your wives/girlfriends'/daughters/s isters' public restrooms and public shower rooms/locker rooms. It also enables male youths to encroach upon the same rights of your female young family members at school. It also facilitates cross-dressing male athletics personnel having access to young girls' locker/restrooms at public schools. The list of bizarre scenarios this lobby enables are enumerable and bizarre.

Sure, those behind this kind of legislation will cry you a river of crocodile tears while crying "oppression", and "civil rights" but this kind of lobby is but another front of gay activists takeover of society through brute-force politics.

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Eric wrote:
This kind of lobby enables, for example, cross-dressers to publicly live out fully the gender identity of their choice and criminalizes anyones objection to such bizarreness.
No one's objections are criminalized and the ordinance makes no mention of cross-dressers. If you are an employer or the operator of a business, you cannot discriminate on the basis of anyone's sexual orientation and/or gender identity.
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It enables an enviornment in which a hairy-legged man in a dress will be running your kids' daycare. Or that same cross-dresser having full access to your wives/girlfriends'/daughters/s isters' public restrooms and public shower rooms/locker rooms. It also enables male youths to encroach upon the same rights of your female young family members at school.It also facilitates cross-dressing male athletics personnel having access to young girls' locker/restrooms at public schools. The list of bizarre scenarios this lobby enables are enumerable and bizarre.
Austin has had virtually the same exact ordinance as has been passed here in Salina in force since 2004. How many instances of these "bizarre scenarios" can you evidence as having occurred down there in the last 8 years? Your "bizarre scenarios" are actually nothing more than paranoid fantasies with absolutely no basis in any reality, now aren't they?
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Sure, those behind this kind of legislation will cry you a river of crocodile tears while crying "oppression", and "civil rights" but this kind of lobby is but another front of gay activists takeover of society through brute-force politics.
We don't want to take over society dear, we just want the same rights you seemingly take for granted.
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The narrative you are perpetuating is a classic game of "hide the ball".

You have the same rights in America as straights, but the gay lobby has had such success that it's now drunk with power.

Like, affirmative action on steroids - that's the horizon they're chasing.

No, I don't think you literally want to takeover society in the sense most people first envision.

Your lobby wants to criminalize any and all dissenting viewpoints and expression of those in society - and force celebration of your lifestyle ("lifestyle", not identity) upon everyone - starting with kindergarteners in public schools. You're over halfway there, btw.

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We have the same rights now, because the ordinance applies regardless of sexual orientation and/or gender identity.

I notice that you couldn't provide a single example of any of your so-called "bizarre scenarios" ever coming true. Considering that your own ordinance has been on the books for eight years now and Austin is nearly 20x the size of Salina, the fact that you have no evidence whatsoever that what you claim could happen has EVER happened; it would seem that you have nothing more to offer to us than your bizarre paranoid fantasies. Sorry, but your strange fears are not something which we should be basing public policy on, you should save those thoughts for a qualified mental health professional.
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Your gay-celebrating-and-protecting Liberal Media has gone overboard blandishing anyone who has even the most moderate, principled and objective criticisms of the gay lobby's progress as archaic backwoods bigots, incapable of love or tolerance, on the "wrong side of history", and that you cannot have any sort of objection whatsoever unless you are some zealot fringe extremist.

It will sorrow you to know that there is a consistant push against the aggressive blockade and whitewash of information perpetuated by the mainstream media on this issue. Your feignts, manufactured crisis' and synthesized rallying cries are being exposed for what they are: victim-mongering.

A bizarre scenario happened in Michigan, where indignat females in a Macdonalds restroom beat up a cross-dressing male for refusing to leave. That woman got prison time for that.

The gay lobby in massechusettes are having alot of success in their push for "gender neautral" public restrooms.

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So no examples in the eight years of Austin's experience of having a similar ordinance and the only one you can come up with from ANYWHERE, you can't even get the facts (pun intended) straight.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2011-04-24/n...

It happened in Maryland, not Michigan and it didn't happen to a "cross-dressing male", but to a transgendered woman who had already undergone sexual reassignment. Your "indignant females" committed a hate crime against this woman based on the same ignorant false assumptions you are promoting here.

You are doing nothing but attempting to rationalize your irrational bigotries against people you don't find acceptable. While you have every right to those bigotries, those of us who are the target of them ,now have the right not to be discriminated against on the basis of them. We will fight hard to keep the ordinance come election day and hopefully common sense and reason, rather than your kind of paranoia and hate will prevail.

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GTF Out of here wrote:
The special privilege ordinance is on the ballot as it should have been originally.
Protection for LGBT ARE NOT special privileges.They are RIGHTS guaranteed everyone else in this Country;paid for by brave men IN BLOOD;whether you like it or not.

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<quoted text> Rights that are afforded to you "different" types already. The perceived problems addressed by this ordinance were contrived. It is part of a bigger plan by the deviant sector of the community.
YOU are the 'deviant'sector of the community.

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qwerty wrote:
<quoted text> Rights that are afforded to you "different" types already. The perceived problems addressed by this ordinance were contrived. It is part of a bigger plan by the deviant sector of the community.
"Deviant sector of the community:"The Nazis [perhaps some of your relatives]said the same thing about the Jews in Germany during the Holocaust.

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qwerty wrote:
<quoted text> Rights that are afforded to you "different" types already. The perceived problems addressed by this ordinance were contrived. It is part of a bigger plan by the deviant sector of the community.
You have a problem with treating all Americans equally under the law?

Why do you live here, then?

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GTF out of here wrote:
You had the same rights before the ordinance was passed....
Gee, we all had the right to be discriminated against on the basis of our sexual orientation and/or gender identity. I can see why an idiot, such as yourself, would be content with that, but you're not all that bright, are you? We all now have the right to not put up with that sort of absurd discrimination, you can learn to cope.
GTF out of here wrote:
you just couldn't stay in the closet. Tough shit.
There is no reason why I or anyone else should. Your choice to be an irrational bigot shouldn't be made our problem. That should be between you and a mental health professional.
Curious

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Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>No one's objections are criminalized and the ordinance makes no mention of cross-dressers. If you are an employer or the operator of a business, you cannot discriminate on the basis of anyone's sexual orientation and/or gender identity. <quoted text>Austin has had virtually the same exact ordinance as has been passed here in Salina in force since 2004. How many instances of these "bizarre scenarios" can you evidence as having occurred down there in the last 8 years? Your "bizarre scenarios" are actually nothing more than paranoid fantasies with absolutely no basis in any reality, now aren't they?
<quoted text>We don't want to take over society dear, we just want the same rights you seemingly take for granted.
Lets add the entire states of Colorado, California, and Oregon as well to this scenario. Thats give this guy a chance.......

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Curious wrote:
Lets add the entire states of Colorado, California, and Oregon as well to this scenario. Thats give this guy a chance.......
He's got 15 states which laws on the books that prohibit discrimination based on sexual identity, 11 of which ban it on the basis of gender identity as well, not to mention the dozens and dozens of local governing units that have them and the ONLY example he could come up with, he had to lie about. He had a fighting chance, threw one punch and whiffed. I'm not surprised he hasn't come back for another go.

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qwerty wrote:
I would turn that question back to you. Why do you feel some in the community deserve special privileges based on their "sexual" preferences? Do you really believe their was a probleme before this segment of the community decided there was a problem?
Sweetie, they aren't "special protections" if they are extended to everyone. The ordinance would protect YOU if you were somehow discriminated against on the basis of your sexual orientation or how you express your gender (you do have those don't you?). There is an all too well documented history of discrimination against those who aren't heterosexual and those who express their gender in less than conventional ways, that's pretty much a given and while nowhere near as frequent, there exists discrimination against those who are heterosexual and those who express their gender in familiar ways. We all deserve equal protection, whether you really want it or not.

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qwerty wrote:
You just can't accept the fact that you aren't normal, can you? If you were, you wouldn't need special privileges.
Cupcake, if you are an example of what passes as "normal", I'm more than thankful I ain't, heck, I'm downright giddy over the fact. And one more time moron, the protections aren't special if they apply to everyone. Quit while you've made only this much of a fool of yourself.
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Imagine you are a Christian book store owner and a man in a miniskirt comes in to apply for a job. If that store owner refused to hire a cross-dresser, he would be hit with a career-ending, bankrupting lawsuit by powerful entities like ACLU and Human Rights Campaign. This kind of scenario will happen if this bill takes effect. It's already happened elsewhere many times.

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Eric wrote:
Imagine you are a Christian book store owner and a man in a miniskirt comes in to apply for a job. If that store owner refused to hire a cross-dresser, he would be hit with a career-ending, bankrupting lawsuit by powerful entities like ACLU and Human Rights Campaign. This kind of scenario will happen if this bill takes effect. It's already happened elsewhere many times.
Get serious.Ever heard of men wearing KILTS.The difference between a kilt and a miniskirt is about $100.

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Eric wrote:
Imagine you are a Christian book store owner and a man in a miniskirt comes in to apply for a job. If that store owner refused to hire a cross-dresser, he would be hit with a career-ending, bankrupting lawsuit by powerful entities like ACLU and Human Rights Campaign. This kind of scenario will happen if this bill takes effect. It's already happened elsewhere many times.
Gender identity is part of nondiscrimination law in over 125 jurisdictions. The first was in Minneapolis, in 1976. Please show us a real example of the kind of doomsday scenario that you're weaving. There should be more than a few if you had a leg to stand on.

People like you just love to smear the trans community with fear mongering and over the top emotional appeals for just one thing, so you can continue to harm us without fear of repercussion. If people are treated with dignity and respect then they won't sue.

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