Longtime Lindsborg physician fired

Longtime Lindsborg physician fired

There are 4 comments on the Salina Journal story from Jul 3, 2012, titled Longtime Lindsborg physician fired. In it, Salina Journal reports that:

Susan Higbee is anxious to learn why Lindsborg Community Hospital fired her doctor, Bryce Loder, in late June.

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Concerned for Lindsborg

Mcpherson, KS

#1 Jul 9, 2012
This is an absolute travesty. The current CEO is unqualified for his position and was only hired because of the current "ol' boy network". He is a trained physical therapist and should have remained in that capacity. He does not have the education or experience to be running a hospital. He is obviously in over his head and doesn't know what to do when challenged by trained medical personnel on his shortsighted decisions. The Board of Directors should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen. The people who will suffer are the patients of the Smoky Valley. It is irresponsible to assume that interim doctors or PA's can fill the shoes of a beloved physician who has provided long term care and followup to patients. Unfortunately, the wrong person was fired. The CEO and Board of Directors are the ones that need to go. We need someone who has experience and the appropriate education to run the hospital and a Board that has the guts to challenge decisions and have some independent thinking.
Kris Erickson

Hillsboro, KS

#2 Jul 16, 2012
Why has "Concerned" hidden their identity? Oddly, "Concerned"'s comments do nothing but spew hatred. I attended the Town Hall style meeting and came away with several interesting revelations.

Yes, a doctor's contract was terminated, but the decision was backed by enormous support from the staff of the hospital. Half of the attendees were Hospital staff who clearly showed their support for the CEO and Board of Directors. A "toxic work environment" was mentioned, yet the staff overwhelmingly supported the departure of this physician.

The meeting organizers met guests at the door and asked them to "sign in" on forms that upon closer inspection were revealed to be petitions. This underhanded behavior invalidates any petitions that may be presented by this self serving group of self-titled "concerned citizens".

The doctor who is resigning clearly stated that he was disgruntled because he didn't have a place on the Board of Directors. I'm sure all hospital employees would enjoy such a position, but only one has abandoned his post for this reason.

In essence, this is an ugly smear campaign conducted by a small group of self serving individuals who have misled the public and outright lied to the press. It's sad that the citizens of Lindsborg have been so deliberately deceived.

Since: Jul 12

Mcpherson, KS

#3 Jul 16, 2012
Erik - I don't know why "Concerned" hid their identity but I will tell you why I am hiding mine: retaliation. To date, some of the hospital board, staff and their supporters have taken the "low-road". A couple of businessmen who participated in either the initial meetings or in organizing the community meeting have reported that they are being boycotted by some staff members. Several business people contacted the organizers of the community meeting to express support for "doing something to keep our doctors" but stated they were "afraid to get involved". Based on your posts here and elsewhere, there is basis for any fear of publicly supporting Drs. Loder and Nickel.

But, thank you for revealing your identity. However, considering your quick and vociferous criticism of others, it is disingenuous that you don't reveal that your wife is a hospital employee.(Although it is unclear how belittling the feelings of loss, panic and helplessness of approximately 2300 patients strengthens your interests or the hospital's.)

Also, you speak with great authority about the hospital administration being without fault and in denouncing the meeting organizers as self-serving (unexplained as to what) conductors of a smear campaign. You apparently were so consumed with righteous indignation at the meeting that you became incapable of hearing the 50, 60 and 70 year olds who expressed their bewilderment, fear and confusion. Are you so young and naive that you think such fear and confusion would not have existed if the newspaper hadn't printed a story about the firing and resignation or if the "smear campaign" in the form of a community meeting hadn't occurred?

You claim that half of the 600 plus people at the meeting were hospital employees. I don't think that is correct yet you complain about the "lies" told by others.

You claim that the hospital staff overwhelmingly supports the decision to fire Dr. Loder despite knowing that would cause Dr. NIckel to resign. That is not what I have been told. I've also been told that many realize that unless the clinic can retain most of those patients, employees will be terminated.

Because your wife apparently supports the board and administration regardless, do you expect that any co-worker would tell her they didn't? Especially considering that many employees apparently believe that anything less than complete endorsement of all acts by the administrator will result in punishment of some kind?

Several parents have told me that their child is employed at the hospital and has said that everyone is scared; walking on eggshells just trying to not be noticed. That the atmosphere is "horrible". So, you and I are hearing different things.

I'm puzzled as to why you and other hospital-connected people are so outraged by the community meeting? Apparently, for many people, the meeting was the "release" they needed. Consequently, there is no effort to force the hospital into mediation or anything like that. The meeting provided the outlet most people needed to express their fear and outrage. Now it's over and they can move on. An unbiased observer might even conclude that the meeting organizers inadvertently helped the hospital by defusing a growing firestorm.

The hospital encouraged us to create long-term, meaningful relationships with our clinic doctors. We did. Then the hospital, inexplicably, announced that they were forcing us to "divorce" our doctor and that we had no voice in that decision. Why is it difficult to comprehend why people had a true visceral reaction to learning they had "lost" their doctor and became outraged?

The hospital won and the doctors are leaving! Be gracious in victory.

If you plan to continue in the elder-care field, I suggest you develop a greater sensitivity to the special relationship that develops between an aging person and a truly great doctor.
Lawrence

Gilbert, AZ

#4 Aug 8, 2012
Concerned for Lindsborg wrote:
This is an absolute travesty. The current CEO is unqualified for his position and was only hired because of the current "ol' boy network". He is a trained physical therapist and should have remained in that capacity. He does not have the education or experience to be running a hospital. He is obviously in over his head and doesn't know what to do when challenged by trained medical personnel on his shortsighted decisions. The Board of Directors should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen. The people who will suffer are the patients of the Smoky Valley. It is irresponsible to assume that interim doctors or PA's can fill the shoes of a beloved physician who has provided long term care and followup to patients. Unfortunately, the wrong person was fired. The CEO and Board of Directors are the ones that need to go. We need someone who has experience and the appropriate education to run the hospital and a Board that has the guts to challenge decisions and have some independent thinking.
I've worked for years in several hospitals (Phoenix and Kansas City), and I know what you're talking about. A few hospital administrators are so egotistical that think they know more than the doctors, nurses, and medical staff. I call it "the ivory tower syndrome" and it can wreck a good hospital before new management takes over to undo the damage. Sometimes the hospital never recovers and it is forced to close down unless these self absorbed paper pushing executives are removed. I've seen it happen to one perfectly good hospital. I hope it doesn't happen to Lindsborg, but there is something you can do, if you want things to change.

I suggest taking your medical needs to nearby hospitals. When people vote with their dollars, the egotists will be forced to resign. People can also continue to receive medical care from practitioners who are not affiliated with the Lindsborg hospital. Today people have more choices when it comes to wellness. There are good chiropractors, small clinics, nutrition stores, and other alternatives for prevention of major medical problems. Best wishes for all concerned.

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