The VA Wants to Kill Combat Veterans

The VA Wants to Kill Combat Veterans

There are 22 comments on the salem-news.com story from Apr 29, 2008, titled The VA Wants to Kill Combat Veterans. In it, salem-news.com reports that:

It's time for a WAR ON DRUGS against the U.S. government and the Veteran's Administration.

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“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#1 Apr 29, 2008
Yes, this is the VA in action, let's get them addicted to methadone for injuries and PTSD, when all they needed was a joint.
sanskrit

Jamaica, NY

#2 Apr 29, 2008
a stoned soldier is a fearless soldier...but difficult to command...the VA isn't all that bad...they really try hard...most of the "clients" had sitting mental illness before entering service.
MMTer

Monroe, MI

#3 Apr 29, 2008
Sanskrit: I'm sure Max will argue with you about your post until the cows come home...
We'll just wait and see...he can't help himself.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#4 Apr 29, 2008
sanskrit wrote:
a stoned soldier is a fearless soldier...but difficult to command...the VA isn't all that bad...they really try hard...most of the "clients" had sitting mental illness before entering service.
that's the first time I heard that one. What VA is this?

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#5 Apr 29, 2008
sanskrit wrote:
a stoned soldier is a fearless soldier...but difficult to command...the VA isn't all that bad...they really try hard...most of the "clients" had sitting mental illness before entering service.
Veterans are not active duty, that's why they're called Vets.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#6 Apr 29, 2008
MMTer wrote:
Sanskrit: I'm sure Max will argue with you about your post until the cows come home...
We'll just wait and see...he can't help himself.
You're right, because veterans are not active duty soldiers.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#7 Apr 29, 2008
Oh I forgot lol MMTer, you just keep getting funnier and funnier on things you know nothing about.
MMTer

Monroe, MI

#8 Apr 29, 2008
See, I told you he can't help himself...lol...

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#9 Apr 29, 2008
I pulled it up, I'm a vet, Of course I will comment. I was not only a patient of the VA, I worked at one in Texas, if you think a drug addict gets treated badly, try being a veteran. Did you serve your country mmter, if so maybe they are more humane in Canada, probably are, because the treatment these brave men and women got, I can assure you, pets get better treatment. I've only seen 3 VA hospitals, why don't you google veteran health care complaints. The Dr.s in Montgomery, almost all of them have to have an interpreter with them because they don't speak English. lol, it's so funny to see an 88 y/o man left in the hallway stripped naked, begging for someone to cover him (he was a Col. that was a lawyer), and later that day committed suicide. And yes, I was a student than, and yes I covered him.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#10 Apr 29, 2008
yes only if I respond it matters not, we have young men coming back from Iraq, with missing limbs and ruined lives, and know one gives a shit. Well I do!!
yes anyone that went to the va for mental health had pre-existing conditions of psych disorders, I also worked on the AFB as a student and the only psych disorders I saw were people in boot camp trying to get out of the military because they were home sick and boot camp was too hard, Boo Hoo!! well at least I know my fellow vet friend, will respond.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#11 Apr 30, 2008
For a fellow vet.
beth c

Kansas City, MO

#12 Apr 30, 2008
From the research that I have done on the VA, the administration of their hospitals and the care of our Soldiers and Military personell is less than acceptable. These Soldiers & VETS have given their lives, body parts and more than should be expected to be treated like this when they become injured or ill. They should be getting the VERY BEST care and being seen by the best of specialists instead of some of the low quality care that has been given to them. I can only hope that our Gov. will fix this and quickly.!! I am not a Veteran, but know some very well, they are covered by other insurances and will not go to be seen in a Veterans Hospital, SAD that the people who risk their lives for our freedoms are treated in such a way. b

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#13 Apr 30, 2008
beth c wrote:
From the research that I have done on the VA, the administration of their hospitals and the care of our Soldiers and Military personell is less than acceptable. These Soldiers & VETS have given their lives, body parts and more than should be expected to be treated like this when they become injured or ill. They should be getting the VERY BEST care and being seen by the best of specialists instead of some of the low quality care that has been given to them. I can only hope that our Gov. will fix this and quickly.!! I am not a Veteran, but know some very well, they are covered by other insurances and will not go to be seen in a Veterans Hospital, SAD that the people who risk their lives for our freedoms are treated in such a way. b
Thank you for your post Beth. We all know only to well this is not America's dirty little secret anymore. Many on the forum complain about how people with addictions are treated, myself included, but as I said earlier, most would be happier treated that way, than the way these poor men and women are treated. It is a national disgrace!!

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#14 Apr 30, 2008
Maybe my vet friend won't respond, as he is sick of TOPIX, and I don't blame him as I am too, but sorry to say, I'm not going anywhere.
peaceful warrior

United States

#15 Apr 30, 2008
Maximilian wrote:
Maybe my vet friend won't respond, as he is sick of TOPIX, and I don't blame him as I am too, but sorry to say, I'm not going anywhere.
my ears were burning.i have mixed feelings on the va.i think they try to do a impossible job.my father in laws life has been saved many times by the one in kc.

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#16 Apr 30, 2008
I am glad to hear that peaceful warrior, as I am trying to find out where the good ones are. We had a patient from the VA who went a year, without being treated for rectal cancer. He went monthly for a colonoscopy, but they would not perform it, as they kept telling him he had stool in his rectum, and they couldn't perform it because he wasn't cleaned out, he finally went to a private Dr. paid for by his daughter, that stool in his rectum was actually a tumor and the Dr. found it on his first visit. I do want to hear about the good ones, because our vets deserve the best of care. Ours was voted one of 25's best in the country, when I saw that, it truly frightened me. But than again, Sanscrit reminded me most vets are mentally ill before entering the service.

“GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!”

Since: Apr 08

Still there......

#17 Apr 30, 2008
Hello peaceful warrior, hope all is well. We're about to float down here now.
beth c

Kansas City, MO

#18 May 1, 2008
Ok, it is not my purpose here to "bash" groups or people or anyone, if I can not do any good here then I have no purpose. I am sure that there just have to be good Drs., Nurses,Med.Techs ect. in the military and practicing at Military, VA Hospitals, I am sure that it makes their jobs more difficult to have to deal with some of conditions that exsist at the VA facilities, I did not mean to imply that ALL of them are giving poor quality care. But when I hear accounts of Veterans going with out VITAL care that could mean life or death, and when people who are Veterans themselves refuse to get care at a VA Hosp. that tells me that our Gov. needs to do some serious re evaluation of the way services are being provided.In cases where our Military Vets. who have risked life, limb, financial, and Family security are being denied or provided with substandard care, this is NOT an acceptable level of care. We owe ALL of these Veterans the best of care and first rate services, when they need it.
Vini, are you really in Kansas City, KS? the Designation on your identifier says that you are, but then again Mike is in a different local every time he posts.??

Max, I think that "Sanscrit" has to be exaggerating,?? surely "most" Vets can't be "mentally ill" Before entering the service?? I Wonder what source he's using to give that determination?

“Respect My AUTHORITY!”

Since: Mar 08

Rockville Centre NY

#19 May 1, 2008
beth c wrote:
Ok, it is not my purpose here to "bash" groups or people or anyone, if I can not do any good here then I have no purpose. I am sure that there just have to be good Drs., Nurses,Med.Techs ect. in the military and practicing at Military, VA Hospitals, I am sure that it makes their jobs more difficult to have to deal with some of conditions that exsist at the VA facilities, I did not mean to imply that ALL of them are giving poor quality care. But when I hear accounts of Veterans going with out VITAL care that could mean life or death, and when people who are Veterans themselves refuse to get care at a VA Hosp. that tells me that our Gov. needs to do some serious re evaluation of the way services are being provided.In cases where our Military Vets. who have risked life, limb, financial, and Family security are being denied or provided with substandard care, this is NOT an acceptable level of care. We owe ALL of these Veterans the best of care and first rate services, when they need it.
Vini, are you really in Kansas City, KS? the Designation on your identifier says that you are, but then again Mike is in a different local every time he posts.??
Max, I think that "Sanscrit" has to be exaggerating,?? surely "most" Vets can't be "mentally ill" Before entering the service?? I Wonder what source he's using to give that determination?
I think you're purpose is well intentioned. Here is the first thing we heard as students in a VA hospital, and this was from RN's. "keep in mind, these people are freeloaders, and nothing more, they think we owe them something." I'm sure this was passed on to new nurses as well as future classes. We had very strict instructors, you make a mistake, you're kicked out of school. Boy am I glad they were so strict. We never gave meds without knowing everything about it. I was in my 3rd semester, I was offered a job my first day there, for when I graduated. I considered it, because it would have counted into the time I served in the military. I was thrown an IV bag of antibiotics on a patient, I looked at the label and said this is not the same antibiotic on the chart(I was not really brazen in those days, just fearful of being kicked out of school) The RN said its still an antibiotic, so do your job and hang it anyway. I called my instructor instead. There are too many other horrors to tell. I never considered it as a future again, after the 88 y/o man committed suicide. The University quit going there the next semester for clinical experience, not sure anymore if they ever returned. Oh and I'm not bragging, everyone was offered a job at the VA. Military hospitals were not too bad, most of their hospitals have closed, and give the military the right to seek treatment at private hospitals.
sanskrit

Jamaica, NY

#20 May 5, 2008
VA treats active -duty soldiers....VA has all medications bar-coded....VA psych wards fill up about week after SC% checks are issued on the 1st...psych wards empty few days before checks arrive....freeloaders are everywhere...VA has people on 100% disability...they spent a month in thier bunk sleeping in urine and feaces to get a psych discharge...not an easy thing circ 1966 fort jackson SC

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