Do you personally know any Sociopaths and/or Psychopaths?

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Psychopath vs Sociopath

Narberth, PA

#1 Aug 26, 2008
So many of us meet them every day, they could be a relative, a friend, a lover. The thing of it is, they all have the same characteristics. Do you know what they are?
Halle

Trenton, NJ

#2 Dec 2, 2008
I think my ex-fiance is a sociopath,I was with him for almost 6 years and in the middle of me planning my wedding he runs off with this woman he had been seeing for 2 years.I confronted him and her and he denied being with me.I know some men cheat I just don't know how he pulled it off for 2 whole years.They took vacations together and all of his family and friends knew about it.When I found out I went into a state of shock I swear I felt like I was in the Twilight Zone or the show Punked.What's even more insane he was a personal trainer and even did a body building competition.When I met his lover she lookeed like Orca the killer whale she was BIG!!, anyways I found out how much he lied.He lied about everything.Sorry my post is so long it felt good to get that off my chest.....;o)~
Tai Mai Shu

Woodbury, NJ

#3 Dec 3, 2008
A Psychopath is a conning, manipulative narcissistic liar and user as a psychopath, as long as he or she is completely lacking in remorse or empathy. The sociopath, however, is capable of guilt, caring, building relationships, etc., but only within a certain context. He or she will have loyalties to a specific group but not to society at large. They care nothing for social norms and will break them with impunity if it serves their purpose. So, on the surface, they may resemble psychopaths. However, they might genuinely feel remorse over harming someone within their group or family. They will have a moral code specific to that context: they might not lie, exploit, or manipulate within the group. Thus, they exhibit psychopathic behaviors in certain contexts but not all.
Halle

Redmond, WA

#4 Dec 3, 2008
Tai Mai Shu wrote:
A Psychopath is a conning, manipulative narcissistic liar and user as a psychopath, as long as he or she is completely lacking in remorse or empathy. The sociopath, however, is capable of guilt, caring, building relationships, etc., but only within a certain context. He or she will have loyalties to a specific group but not to society at large. They care nothing for social norms and will break them with impunity if it serves their purpose. So, on the surface, they may resemble psychopaths. However, they might genuinely feel remorse over harming someone within their group or family. They will have a moral code specific to that context: they might not lie, exploit, or manipulate within the group. Thus, they exhibit psychopathic behaviors in certain contexts but not all.
Thanx 4 the info I am still a lil confused as to what my ex-fiance is.He says he is remorseful and I see him crying and what not but,I just can't comprehend how he could pull his monkey tricks as well as he did. 2 years is a long time.Maybe I saw clues or was too in love to see the signs.Sometimes I think he is bipolar he would go into insane rages and a few min later he would be calm about everything.Its hard for me to pint point what he is.I finally had to cut all ties with him,its killing him inside since he never thought I would leave him.What's strange about the whole thing is some how he has the ability to make me feel guilty for leaving him,,and making me feel bad for him cheating on me,,,he justifies it one day and the next day is depressed about it.Maybe he is just crazy who knows?,,,,,,Topix is cool I can vent,,hee hee I am still traumatized since my supposedly wedding day was on sept 13th its only been 3 months so its still so fresh for me.
Tai Mai Shu

Woodbury, NJ

#5 Dec 3, 2008
Well, sorry to hear that you had to go through that. I had the same thing happen to me a long time ago. This guy cheated with his best friends girl friend, his bosses wife and anyone else he could get his hands on. He did his best to hide it from me and yes, I too tried not to see it. But eventually I just could not take it anymore so I left. He cried like a baby and stalked me night and day. I had to get a restraining order. As for you leaving...what kind of relationship would it be if you can not trust each other and you would doubt him every time he is late or not where he says he is? Once a cheat, always a cheat. I am sure other posters will not agree with that. Perhaps they too are going through denial. Please trust me, you did the right thing. He is trying to use reverse psychology on you to get you to feel like this is all your fault. Don't fall for it. And by the way, It does not matter which label best fits him. Move on. The is a perfect match waiting for you and you will not find him if you are still dwelling on this one. Good luck to you.
Halle

Trenton, NJ

#6 Dec 4, 2008
Wow!! thank God!! I feel understood.Its so easy to stay in a sick relationship,I tried to give him a chance,,I told him that I wanted to just be friends but I couldn't I thought I was going crazy.One day I would forgive him and the next day I would want to smack the hell out him,I would end cuzzing him out and making him cry.I wanted revenged soooo bad I wanted to see him suffer and pay his KARMIC DEPT* but all I was doing was lowering myself to his low level.At the end I realized it just wasn't worth it.I did not like who I was becoming.Its funny because now when people see me they tell me I look different and better.I guess I had a stressed out look.Happiness is going to bed in peace at nite and not worry what time your man is coming home,,,,,,who needs that stress?,,,,I am glad you got out safe from you last relationship how long were you with him? I agree with you once a cheater always a cheater! I hope you found a good one It takes time to heal,I still get sad,and miss him at times but there is no trust.Once the trust is gone there is nothing left.
I have faith that I will meet my "prince" I know what I want ,he will be my best friend with strong morals,he will treat me with respect,and have good laughs together.They say if you think it ink it!,,,,for now I just need to be healed completely. I don't even want to think about dating.I am not into the whole rebound thing.I just want to grow and be alone for a while.I read a book that said the bigger the pain the bigger the lesson.I remember nites hilding my heart I thought I was going to die from the heartache it was horrible! I cried for 2 months straight.I have finally forgave him,I hope that he seeks help and changes his wicked ways,or else he will die poor broke and lonely.I am a strong beleiver in you reap what you sow.
Halle

Redmond, WA

#7 Dec 4, 2008
Oops sorry for the double!
marcie

Brandon, VT

#8 Jan 4, 2009
tai mai shu: you are incorrect. There is no difference between the psychopath and sociopath. They are the same, interchangeable. Neither have a modicum of a conscience. There is no such thing as being a "little bit" sociopath. Either one is, or one is not.
Tai Mai Shu

Woodbury, NJ

#9 Jan 5, 2009
Marcie:

Are you a doctor? Where are you getting your information. Hopefully not the internet. They are definitely different. Talk to a psychiatrist or psychologist and they will confirm that they are not the same.

Please don't bother to reply as I have absolutely no desire to go back and forth on this topic. If you want to believe they are the same...feel free to do so.
marcie

Brandon, VT

#10 Jan 20, 2009
tai mai shu: yes, I am, as a matter of fact.
Tai Mai Shu

Woodbury, NJ

#11 Jan 21, 2009
Then you might want to consider taking a refresher.
Mci

East Northport, NY

#12 Feb 14, 2009
this comment portion has nothing but a bunch of women complaining about their significant others. I am not saying at all in any way, shape or form that what happened to these people isn't unfortunate. But, to make a long story short, I know a woman that stole from my children and got mad at me for confronting her.
tea_tree

Manchester, CT

#13 Feb 21, 2009
it hurts to read these posts. being involved romantically (and probably any other way) with a true sociopath is a horrible experience. i fell in love with a man who I believe is a sociopath. i don't believe this because of all the abuse I suffered, but because the writing is on the wall. He stole from me, lied constantly, cheated regularly, verbally abused me to the point of wrecking the little self confidence I have, and tried to turn some of my closer friends against me, among other horrible things. His lies were so big, they impacted "everything". His charm, intelligence and ability to manipulate won me back again and again. With him, nothing was EVER his fault, and he could make up an elaborate lie on a dime. He lied about everything and anything. The relationship ended horribly, with me being pregnant, broke and my anxiety level at an all time high. I wonder if any other people out there have analyzed what (besides the charm) attracts you to this kind of person in the first place? I played his 'game' for 7 months. I will be paying for this mistake for years. I was reading in an earlier post,'the bigger the pain, the bigger the lesson'. I hope that is one way to look on this in a positive light. I still feel bad thinking about the life he will ultimately lead, when his looks start to go and he can't charm as easily. He will probably be alone, and broke, not able to hold a job for more than a few days, and never having a true friend or any stability. It still makes me feel sad, but I just can't be the victim anymore. What a destructive mental illness this is.
Tai Mai Shu

Thorofare, NJ

#14 Feb 22, 2009
tea tree:

You are looking for a reason why you stayed and the answer is in your own words.

"verbally abused me to the point of wrecking the little self confidence I have, and tried to turn some of my closer friends against me"

His game is not unique. These guys will tear down anything positive you have in your life and make you completely dependent on them. You have no self-worth and will will take whatever they dish out. You obviously are still feeling that way because you feel "sad" for him. Focus more on feeling "happy" for you and the fact that you moved on. Don't waste time trying to analyze him unless he is your patient and you are getting paid. You have a new role now. Love yourself and your baby and move on. There are plenty of guys that will lift you up instead of tearing you down. I strongly suggest you regain your self-worth and learn how to love yourself before looking for a relationship.

Good luck.

Since: Feb 09

Montclair, NJ

#15 Feb 23, 2009
greeting all, this is my first time posting and the topics are touching because my friend is on lock down for 6 years in south woods. i feel lonely sometimes because having a place to see through my discussions help but am coping with my self value and the need to separate everything and everyone from who i am...I've learned a bit from reading this forum. Self first. Thanks i want to visit again
Lisa

Lisbon, MD

#16 Mar 29, 2009
I had a long friendship with a sociopath that was like living in a lifetime movie. Her life was affairs, gambling, manipuation, NON stop lying, etc. For year i believed her side of the stories and thought she had the MOST unfortunate luck to have all these horrible events & people in her life. When I started to see the truth, it almost drove me insane. The years and stress wasted on stories that were complete lies or tall tales.

This sociopath has told everyone that I am insane jealous stalker etc. it is very hard to take but I know that I believed her for all those years so I understand how others do.

From what I know of this woman , I will never truely be free. She will find my topix posts.(She recently informed me of this, watch my business and take credit for it's success and mock it's failures.

With a sociopath you are viewed as an accomplice or victim. witht he first always becoming the later at some point.

Walk AWay and DON"T look back is MY ADVICE TO anyone LEST you look like the crazy one. A Sociopath is a LIAR with a lifetime of skill and the victim is a confused person saying things that may or may not be true because WHO WILL EVER KNOW WHAT was TRUE OR NOT unless you saw it with your own eyes!

You are left with a WTF just happened feeling.?Run, don't look back or try to understand. Just run towards the light.
Tina MacNamera

San Diego, CA

#17 May 3, 2009
I've had some co-workers who were like that,hard to work around with their big mood swings hour to hour,makes a hard job even harder to deal with them.

Manic-Depressive they are.

Since: Feb 09

New York, NY

#18 May 8, 2009
wow
science

Slovenia

#19 May 16, 2009
I know at least three. They are more common than you think. All should be strangled at birth because they only impact society in a negative way.
LIsa

Westminster, MD

#20 May 17, 2009
science wrote:
I know at least three. They are more common than you think. All should be strangled at birth because they only impact society in a negative way.
I could not agree more, Since a sociopath does not have the ability to experience emotions or form bonds what is the use of their existence on earth. A slug has more humanity.

I have fantasies of cutting her lying tongue and tattooing her face with liar and thief.

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