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#82
Sep 5, 2010
 

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Every place is haunted. Spirits are everywhere. Indians and native beasts have lived and died on every inch of this country for thousands of years. I have cell phone pics of spirits from places that I wouldn't have even thought of as being haunted. I believe that everywhere we are is haunted by something.
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Sep 16, 2010
 

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I'm a Grandson of the family that first owned and built this house. I find it incredibly funny and interesting how stories have evolved over time. My father talks highly of his days in Salem and the people he was friends with. I'm not sure what happened after they sold the house, but I will say my Dad or anyone in my family is no child molester. They may have had some wild parties there back in the day, but he was also in his early 20's. It's really sad to hear that house has been victim to vandalism. It's also very sad to see the negative things that have been aimed towards my family.

The only reason I am on this forumn is because my Grandmother (Joan Ryder) just passed away a couple of days ago. We had the funeral today and this house, as well as Salem, was a major topic of conversation. Everyone in my family was wondering what was going on with it so I decided to Google it. I am saddened to see what I have found on it.

For those who spoke kindly about my family, thank you. And for those who were negative, maybe you should get your facts straight. My Dad has nothing but great stories and nice things to say about everyone he was friends with there.
Old friend

Rolla, MO

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#84
Sep 16, 2010
 
So sorry to hear that your grandmother passed, offer out sympathies to your family. When your grandparents lived there is was a beautiful home where a family lived. After they left it fell into the hands of a very sick man, and went downhill from there. I remember visiting when your father was a young man and had parties there and the house up the road, great fun! Your grandparents were always nice to the flock of kids that hung out there, when he wasnt flying back and forth working like a madman. lol Do not allow the negative people in this area bother you, Salem never changes, sadly. Just know that the home was a work of art and still the bones of what was still shine thru.
Ryder

Saint Louis, MO

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#85
Sep 16, 2010
 
Thank you so much for your thoughts. I sincerely appreciate it. I want everyone to know that this house, as well as the people in which my family was friends with in Salem, meant a lot to my family. I grew up with great stories of my father's experieces in Salem. He spoke very highly of everyone he was friends with. It's so sad to have my family's name assoiciated and permantely attached with a house that a lot of people talk bad about because of things that happened after my family moved away. All the things that I have been told over the years have lead me to beleive that this was a special place in my family's life, and not a place to frown upon or be ashamed of. I hope whoever owns the place now does something nice with it.

I personally don't have any memories of this house because I wasn't born until slightly after my family sold it. My Dad basically raised me on stories of all the fun things they use to do at the farm. How at one point they had 25 horses and how they use to have trailors carting people back and forth for sledding during snow storms. He truley loved it there, and I can tell he misses it a lot. I could never show him this forum because it would break his heart to hear how people have talked about a place that he once called his home. Again, thanks to everyone that wrote positive messages on this forum. I know that you all knew my family for who they were.
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Rolla, MO

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#86
Sep 16, 2010
 
Jim Ryder was the youngest son of the original owners and builders of the mansion, He was Killed in a car wreck in 1975. I believe his ghost walks the halls of the mansion. He died on his way home on a cold winter's night.
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Rolla, MO

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#87
Sep 17, 2010
 
Ryder wrote:
I'm a Grandson of the family that first owned and built this house. I find it incredibly funny and interesting how stories have evolved over time. My father talks highly of his days in Salem and the people he was friends with. I'm not sure what happened after they sold the house, but I will say my Dad or anyone in my family is no child molester. They may have had some wild parties there back in the day, but he was also in his early 20's. It's really sad to hear that house has been victim to vandalism. It's also very sad to see the negative things that have been aimed towards my family.
The only reason I am on this forumn is because my Grandmother (Joan Ryder) just passed away a couple of days ago. We had the funeral today and this house, as well as Salem, was a major topic of conversation. Everyone in my family was wondering what was going on with it so I decided to Google it. I am saddened to see what I have found on it.
For those who spoke kindly about my family, thank you. And for those who were negative, maybe you should get your facts straight. My Dad has nothing but great stories and nice things to say about everyone he was friends with there.
I am guessing you are Mike Ryder's son? If so, your dad and your uncle Jim were good friends of mine. Yeah we had some great times out there back in the 70s. Your grandma was a wonderful lady, I remember when she owned a store called "Young at Heart" I was doing leather and Jewel work, and she bought some of my merchandise. I am sorry to hear of your loss.
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Edenton, NC

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#88
Sep 17, 2010
 
Young Ryder, please understand that a home of that size built in that area was concidered a "Mansion". Dent county is a faily low income area and thus your father's home will always be known as "Ryder's Mansion". When it was owned by the Ryders it was viewed as their home, especially since one of the boys died while living there. Therefore it will always hold bittersweet special memories for your father and grandparents.
What came later was the result of a two very sick individuals, and it tainted the house and will forever be rumors. I am sure your dad can tell you some strange tales of happenings in the house after his brother passed. I do believe the energy footprints of those who inhabit a home remain. One day you should make a drive with your dad and grandfather back to Salem and the old home, it will make memories for you that will last all your life.
Ryder

Saint Louis, MO

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#89
Sep 18, 2010
 
Definetely. Does anyone know how to get a hold of the guy that currently owns it?

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#90
Sep 18, 2010
 
Creepy Story wrote:
My grandpa worked there when it was Lakeview Boys Home. He passed away from Cancer when I was 15. About 3 years later I was out there with some friends who had a key because one of their fathers was doing some work on the place. We were walking around upstairs and the guys thought it would be a good idea to go into the basement. I know from experience you don't go into any creepy basements in the middle of the night with boys ranging from 18-22, because all they will do down there is try to scare the daylight out of you. But for some strange reason I felt compelled to go downstairs. When I got down there I walked to a table and there was a picture of my grandpa just laying there by itself on an otherwise empty table. It was one of the creepiest things ever, but it made me feel comforted. The boys did manage to scare the crap out of me while we were down there, but I thought that it was interesting to find that picture there especially since my grandpa had been gone for 3+ years.
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Curious

Rolla, MO

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#91
Sep 20, 2010
 
Yes Fat Cat,I would also like to know how you know that was the last place Judy Spencer was before she died. Where exactly and what was she doing there and with whom, because Mike Ryder (who lived past the big house in a house on the left) had moved to St. Louis before Judy was killed. Did you mention this to the investigators at the time?
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Salem, MO

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#92
Oct 2, 2010
 
Ryder wrote:
Thank you so much for your thoughts. I sincerely appreciate it. I want everyone to know that this house, as well as the people in which my family was friends with in Salem, meant a lot to my family. I grew up with great stories of my father's experieces in Salem. He spoke very highly of everyone he was friends with. It's so sad to have my family's name assoiciated and permantely attached with a house that a lot of people talk bad about because of things that happened after my family moved away. All the things that I have been told over the years have lead me to beleive that this was a special place in my family's life, and not a place to frown upon or be ashamed of. I hope whoever owns the place now does something nice with it.
I personally don't have any memories of this house because I wasn't born until slightly after my family sold it. My Dad basically raised me on stories of all the fun things they use to do at the farm. How at one point they had 25 horses and how they use to have trailors carting people back and forth for sledding during snow storms. He truley loved it there, and I can tell he misses it a lot. I could never show him this forum because it would break his heart to hear how people have talked about a place that he once called his home. Again, thanks to everyone that wrote positive messages on this forum. I know that you all knew my family for who they were.
I have lived here for most of my life and my dad has told me stories about when he and Jimmy ran around together, including the night Jimmy died when the group was all headed back to town when the accident occured. My dad lived in the house down the road on left just past "Ryder"s Mansion" as I was growing up and on occasions we stopped by there so he could pay his rent to I believe it was Sheila. Though I never got out of the house the image I had as a child never went away because I had never before seen such a beautifully large house. My father always had the utmost respect for your family in his stories he would tell, and you could tell by the way he told them that he truely was a friend, and that Jimmy"s accident is something that he'll never forget coming up on. I am truely sorry to hear about your grandmother. I just want to tell you that your family gave my dad a lot of fond memories that he has shared with me several times over the years.
Vince Ryder

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#93
Oct 11, 2010
 
Wow, this is a surreal stroll down (far distant) memory lane for me. Jimmy Ryder (and Michael and Diana) were(are) my cousins. I have nothing but great(non-haunted) memories of that awesome house (and awesome garage/apartment (don't know if the out-building/s' still there)). From '72 -'77, I lived a mile or so away on Highway FF (no idea if it's still called FF or not). My good friend Melvin lived the other direction down FF another mile. Unfortunately, my house on HWY FF burned down in '77, so I haven't seen the 'mansion' since around that time (except a drive-by in the '80s, when it seemed quite unapproachable). I wish only the best for Michael and Diana, wherever they may be.
What happened to the house after my uncle Ed and Aunt Joan sold it was a bit tragic, but these things happen, I suppose. It would be great if someone could make a good orphanage out of it (hell, I probably would myself if I won the lottery).

Best wishes to the Ryder clan (dispersed as they may be) and to to our previous (remaining) neighbors there from the '70s.
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#94
Oct 25, 2010
 
Ryder wrote:
Definetely. Does anyone know how to get a hold of the guy that currently owns it?
I do but can't put it on here for everyone to see.
idk

Pleasant Hill, MO

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#95
Dec 25, 2010
 
iv been n tht place lots of times it aint haunted the creepiest part is the soap, coffee maker, dishes, and the bottled water n the rooms infront of the house were hobos have been livin haha
Tiger

Lenexa, KS

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#96
Dec 25, 2010
 
Saw him last week at a Rams game, would like to sell it!
Diane Ryder

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#97
Feb 1, 2011
 
The house was built in 1972 My parents are Ed and Joan Ryder My brothers are Mike and Jimmy Ryder and my mom mother and our grandmother harriette smith and myself Diane Ryder and My Uncle Ron and aunt karen and cousin Kelly and Ryder lived in the house down the gravel road and my uncle Dave and aunt gina and cousins vance and david jr and vince Ryder and Lisa and Joey travisey lived in the house up from the bridge off hwy ff.
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#98
Feb 15, 2011
 
Do you know if the house is for sale??
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#99
Feb 19, 2011
 
I live on ff hwy and have for 8years or so i can see the Mansion from my yard. I dont think that it is haunted although I have never been in there but it is a beautiful place. Im sorry for the familys loss it is a tragedy.
stl

Rolla, MO

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#100
Feb 22, 2011
 
any other haunted places in around dent county?
Double D

Chesterfield, MO

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#101
Feb 23, 2011
 
My friend's family now owns the Ryder Mansion, and I have stayed there over night once. It is now trashed from all the vandalism, but still and amazing place! The guest house is in living condition, and that is where we stayed. The actual mansion is pretty torn up, without floors, boarded up windows, most rooms lack light fixtures, and have makeshift lamps to light them up. The giant tub in the master bedroom was removed, leaving a giant hole in the floor of the room, dropping down a good 4 feet. The basement is incredibly creepy, including one room that was permanantly closed off with cinderblocks... and nobody knows what is back there. Rumor has it that someone died in the room, so they closed it off to keep the spirits in. One of the rooms also contained wall paper that was covered in pornography, but it was removed due to the fact that the owner has kids. There is a room that is completely filled with desks, stacked up 3 high, I'm assuming from when it was a boys home. Upon looking through the desks we found some very faded school work, and one desk contained some papers that were covered in blood, and there was shattered glass all around that part of the room, however there were no windows in the room. The Ryder mansion is an amazing place, however it due to vandalism it is losing it's beauty.

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