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There are 30 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Jun 6, 2007, titled Connecticut News - State, National and Local News from The Hart.... In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

Colchester police say they don't always feel safe in Colchester. And they say residents shouldn't either, according to a four-page letter written by the union president and vice president for the local police ...

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#21 Jun 15, 2007
Bubba you got it right my friend, I thought I was the only one thinking it. Some people feel entitled to break the law, the law applies to everyone else, but not me. It's dangerous for others to break the law, but not me because I'm a great driver and nothing could ever happen to me. These are the same people who's kids get arrested for drugs or drunk driving and say "impossible, not my little johnny! the police framed him!"
Outraged local citizen

Plainville, CT

#22 Jun 15, 2007
I'm just happy that there are finally other people on here with some sense. The only people that complain about the speed limit and say 9 over it's a big deal are the ones that have been pulled over and/or given a ticket. These are also the people that complain that others are driving too fast on their road, but when they are pulled over for doing just that, all of a sudden it's not a big deal to be speeding. Seriously, you are not above the law, and neither is anyone else.
colchester resident

Higganum, CT

#23 Jun 18, 2007
It makes me sick to my stomach that you all would argue such trival things when it comes to the safety of a police officer. Lets face the facts here. When you need the police, regardless of your past history with them, they respond. They respond quickly, and effectively, to solve your problems, which at times are immature in nature. To debate over such trival things, pisses me off. The resident state trooper program is a scam. Its a smoke in mirrors. Colchester Officers were promised many things in the past, including their own police department, and extra staff. Many times their told by the State Police that back up is not an issue, and that they fall under the blanket of the state police protection. I assure all that the state police are good at promoting themselves, and the Colchester Officers have a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about officer safety. I ask you all... what is it going to take for the town of Colchester to hire more officers, and properly staff the town. From reading many of your comments, I fear the answer. Some of you, but not all, are the typical Colchester farm bred idiot, that believes that the town doesn't need police coverage, and yet, you whimper, when you leave your house unlocked, and your stuff is missing. Wake up Colchester! You're not that small farming community you think you are. There is a serious problem brewing in your town, and your only defense is the police department, not the state police. Troopers only care about tickets, and revenue. Remember that. The big hat usually isn't filled with brains. So, instead of throwing mud around, use your time constructively. Spend time with your kids. Teach them the harmful effects of making poor decisions, and do a little preventive maintence in your own life, before you question the work ethic of the Colchester Police
Danny

Prospect, CT

#24 Jun 25, 2007
CT Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you would like to make inaccurate assumptions, maybe i can assume you are a town officer? Or possibly just another employee of some other company who maybe feels "entitled" to things but doesn't necessarily put in the work to achieve them?
The thought of scientifically untrained people performing forensics work is scary in the least. If you're going to make the argument we should pay them more and hire more of them, let's make sure they're actually capable of doing the jobs we expect. It takes a degree in forensics to work forensics. And surely you're not suggesting we should hire more officers so some of them can be paper pushers, are you? Why do I get the feeling you are using a large city department as a role model? Colchester needs detectives, and beat patrol, and a forensics lab? Really? How many other towns our size, with a 50 sq mile radius, have such a large department?
Look at the budget. There is about $570K in salary in the budget for officers, including overtime and "miscellaneous payroll". That excludes support payroll and the resident trooper, who alone is another $200K. It's not that resources aren't being dedicated to the police department- they are. Isn't $770K a year in salary for a total of 7-8 officers a pretty substantial investment. This does not include uniforms we purchase and pay for cleaning (why we pay for cleaning is beyond me), vehicles, further training, etc. If there were a large crime problem in town, don't you think our BOS would be seeking the funding of more officers over library computers and money for a new senior center or ball fields? Don't point the finger at the taxpayers' priorities. Who hires these officers? Who negotiates their contracts and terms? At what point did Colchester "outgrow" its police force? Who allowed this to happen- to allow the town to grow so rapidly it's busting at the seams now? Certainly not me, or my neighbors. Not the taxpayers- we're just being blamed for wanting to keep more of our dollars in our pocket instead of continuing to go along blindly with what the Boards want.
CT Mom, you are so naive and ignorant. I can barely find the words to reply to you. Colchester has LOTS of crimes but we report a low crime rate because we don't have the staff to investigate it all. Gt more cops and you'll see our numbers go up....guaranteed. Cops don't have time looking out for ATVs etc., because in the grand scheme of major crime that's happening right in your backyard, that's so NOT priority.

The fact that we have Troop K in our town is FALSE security. When our one guy is on at midnight and needs back up, I don't care if he's one town over, if he's on the other side of that town it could still take 15 minutes for him to respond...that may be 15 minutes too late for the safety of the officer. Do you think troopers will come flooding out of the barracks at 1am. NOPE, not how it works. Oh and by the way, the bank robbers that were recently caught so quickly. I read they were caught be East Hampton PD...maybe because they had more staff on duty??? Somehow that wasn't in the article.
Danny

Prospect, CT

#25 Jun 25, 2007
CT Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you would like to make inaccurate assumptions, maybe i can assume you are a town officer? Or possibly just another employee of some other company who maybe feels "entitled" to things but doesn't necessarily put in the work to achieve them?
The thought of scientifically untrained people performing forensics work is scary in the least. If you're going to make the argument we should pay them more and hire more of them, let's make sure they're actually capable of doing the jobs we expect. It takes a degree in forensics to work forensics. And surely you're not suggesting we should hire more officers so some of them can be paper pushers, are you? Why do I get the feeling you are using a large city department as a role model? Colchester needs detectives, and beat patrol, and a forensics lab? Really? How many other towns our size, with a 50 sq mile radius, have such a large department?
Look at the budget. There is about $570K in salary in the budget for officers, including overtime and "miscellaneous payroll". That excludes support payroll and the resident trooper, who alone is another $200K. It's not that resources aren't being dedicated to the police department- they are. Isn't $770K a year in salary for a total of 7-8 officers a pretty substantial investment. This does not include uniforms we purchase and pay for cleaning (why we pay for cleaning is beyond me), vehicles, further training, etc. If there were a large crime problem in town, don't you think our BOS would be seeking the funding of more officers over library computers and money for a new senior center or ball fields? Don't point the finger at the taxpayers' priorities. Who hires these officers? Who negotiates their contracts and terms? At what point did Colchester "outgrow" its police force? Who allowed this to happen- to allow the town to grow so rapidly it's busting at the seams now? Certainly not me, or my neighbors. Not the taxpayers- we're just being blamed for wanting to keep more of our dollars in our pocket instead of continuing to go along blindly with what the Boards want.
And one more thing...do your own research CT MOm. MOST towns this size DO have their own departments and even those are understaffed for today's crimes. WAke UP!
Outraged local citizen

Plainville, CT

#26 Jun 25, 2007
That outta shut her up once and for all.
colchester resident wrote:
It makes me sick to my stomach that you all would argue such trival things when it comes to the safety of a police officer. Lets face the facts here. When you need the police, regardless of your past history with them, they respond. They respond quickly, and effectively, to solve your problems, which at times are immature in nature. To debate over such trival things, pisses me off. The resident state trooper program is a scam. Its a smoke in mirrors. Colchester Officers were promised many things in the past, including their own police department, and extra staff. Many times their told by the State Police that back up is not an issue, and that they fall under the blanket of the state police protection. I assure all that the state police are good at promoting themselves, and the Colchester Officers have a leg to stand on when it comes to complaining about officer safety. I ask you all... what is it going to take for the town of Colchester to hire more officers, and properly staff the town. From reading many of your comments, I fear the answer. Some of you, but not all, are the typical Colchester farm bred idiot, that believes that the town doesn't need police coverage, and yet, you whimper, when you leave your house unlocked, and your stuff is missing. Wake up Colchester! You're not that small farming community you think you are. There is a serious problem brewing in your town, and your only defense is the police department, not the state police. Troopers only care about tickets, and revenue. Remember that. The big hat usually isn't filled with brains. So, instead of throwing mud around, use your time constructively. Spend time with your kids. Teach them the harmful effects of making poor decisions, and do a little preventive maintence in your own life, before you question the work ethic of the Colchester Police
CT Mom

Cheshire, CT

#27 Jun 27, 2007
So Danny- you think teens on ATVS driving down roads at high speeds is no big deal? Really? How about pulling out of a driveway and almost hitting one? No big deal? SO not important? I would hate to think that a deadly accident occurs in the future, and the driver of a vehicle says it's just SO not important. If you're going to tote "the law is the law" then ALL crime is important, isn't it? Maybe the next time someone breaks into your home, or smashes your mailbox, or vandalizes something in your neighborhood you'll be told it's "SO not important" because after all there could always be something bigger and better to do. Grow up.
Danny wrote:
<quoted text>
CT Mom, you are so naive and ignorant. I can barely find the words to reply to you. Colchester has LOTS of crimes but we report a low crime rate because we don't have the staff to investigate it all. Gt more cops and you'll see our numbers go up....guaranteed. Cops don't have time looking out for ATVs etc., because in the grand scheme of major crime that's happening right in your backyard, that's so NOT priority.
The fact that we have Troop K in our town is FALSE security. When our one guy is on at midnight and needs back up, I don't care if he's one town over, if he's on the other side of that town it could still take 15 minutes for him to respond...that may be 15 minutes too late for the safety of the officer. Do you think troopers will come flooding out of the barracks at 1am. NOPE, not how it works. Oh and by the way, the bank robbers that were recently caught so quickly. I read they were caught be East Hampton PD...maybe because they had more staff on duty??? Somehow that wasn't in the article.
CT Mom

Cheshire, CT

#28 Jun 27, 2007
colchester resident wrote:
Lets face the facts here. When you need the police, regardless of your past history with them, they respond. They respond quickly, and effectively, to solve your problems, which at times are immature in nature.........Some of you, but not all, are the typical Colchester farm bred idiot, that believes that the town doesn't need police coverage, and yet, you whimper, when you leave your house unlocked, and your stuff is missing...... There is a serious problem brewing in your town, and your only defense is the police department, not the state police. Troopers only care about tickets, and revenue. Remember that.
Hey resident- I get the feeling you have experiences with a particular person or persons who like to call the police on every little whim. That's not the issue here. And people who have lived in Colchester all their lives, or for generations, are not "farm bred idiots". If they were, they wouldn't be sitting pretty on piles of cash they made from selling their land to the likes of you so that people can build big new McMansions. As for your trashing of the State Police- WOW. You sit here and complain about the supposed bashing of the work ethic of the town police (and I challenge you to post one comment from anyone who said they had poor work ethic- you're fabricating the sentiment here) and you feel the need to bash the State Police and challenge their ethics? Why is a town officer superior to a trooper? You clearly have issues with troopers- that's not the issue at hand here. What is is that Colchester has been mismanaged for years, and can not afford to suddenly build a force that should have been developed over time.
CT Mom

Cheshire, CT

#29 Jun 27, 2007
See Bubba- there you go. You said it. "Go park your butt in front of the First Selectman's Office". We've done just that. We've written letters over the past few years and received no response. And THIS is the same problem with the police force. Who allowed Colchester to grow at the rate it did? Who allowed corrupt police officers 15+ years ago to taint the public's feeling towards the staff? Who did not see to it as the town grew, as the roads expanded, as the schools were built and parks and rec fields were prettied up, that the police force was evaluated for coverage? And NOW the taxpayers are expected to foot the bill for the slacking of the local government? Suddenly a huge financial undertaking is necessary? Wake up Bubba- if there's a problem, it didn't happen overnight. So who's watch did it happen on?
As for your assumption that people who break the law disprespect the flag, how do you explain the safety officials- both hired and volunteer- who cruise around breaking speed limits left and right and some of whom use their emergency lights just to bypass intersection traffic? How can they both respect and serve the law and flag, and break the law and disrespect the flag? According to you, they can't- it's one or the other. Maybe you need a history lesson. We have a flag, Bubba, because people broke the law and challenged it. We have a flag Bubba, because people like my father and grandfathers chose to fight when their countries needed them to. We have a flag Bubba, to remind us of the three parts of our government and that no one part is superior- not the law, the law maker, nor the law enforcer. WE Bubba are part of that system. WE have choices to make, and sometimes that means breaking the law. So yes- if I drive 9mph over the limit on my road I do so knowing that there are consequences if I get caught. I find it very hard to believe Bubba that you are so far above and beyond everyone, infallible. Ever disposed of a used razor blade? Guess what, it's against the law in CT. LOL
But really Bubba- have you parked your butt in front of the First Selectman or the Board and fought for what you want? It goes both ways. So don't pass judgement on others for something you haven't done yourself.

“Water calm~No alligators?”

Since: May 07

Far Away from You

#30 Jun 27, 2007
Bubba wrote:
<quoted text> Thank you...Lets take a second and look at what an extra 9 MPH does to your stopping distance. This is average car, good tires, driver in good health, etc...At 20 MPH Stopping distance is 40 ft. At 30mph it jumps to 75 feet. This is the length of a tractor trailer rig...At 40 mph it jumps to 120 ft, and at 50 mph, the stopping distance is 175ft. This is barring any distractions from kids, animals, or other passengers...All of these statistics are from NTSB website and can be checked out...Last year, coming down Ogden Lord Rd to Bull Hill, I had a lady in a silver SUV who lives on Farm Gate Rd following me on my Harley, no less than 20 inches from my rear fender...She had kids in the car...I motioned for her to back off, but as I was going the speed limit but it wasn't fast enough for her. She is so lucky that those anger management classes I took paid off...I have since seen her driving that car, and have witnessed her doing 60 in a 30 mph zone...Now she'll hit someone oneday, but in the meantime, what influence is she making on the minds of her children? Kids are smart, and they know that 30 mph over the speed limit is breaking the law...But...if Mommy can break the Law, why can't we...And so the seed is planted, and grows, until one day the police pull your now 17 yr old daughter out of a tangled wreck with her face disfigured so badly you don't even recognize her...So far fetched? How many young kids have died in this part of Connecticut in just the last 3 or 4 years? To the Lady from Farmgate Road, that nice yellow house you have...Hit a biker and watch Trantolo and Trantolo take your house, your savings accounts, and any other property or wealth you may have away from you and give it to the Biker. Let your children have the bent twisted body of that BIker in their minds for the rest of time...Mommy did that to him...As for you mis T.D. of Farmgate Road, you will never sleep a full night again. Why? Because you, and so many others like you, can't appreciate this country well enough to obey some traffic laws. Just like CT Mom hear on this thread, you think that you are better than the rest. Your time is more important, yoour ugly kids are better looking, and you don't need to have respect for anyone elses right to live safely. Well here's a flash! If you don't respect the law, and if you don't respect the safety of others, you don't respect yourself either...
As a side note: You need to get her license plate number and report her to the police. Isn't that something like a citizen's arrest?

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