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Salamanca, NY

#21 Aug 7, 2012
U dumb white Fawks the state bought the rite away from the nationTo make 86. Stop listening to your lame ass parents and look it up .. Just leave or kill your selfs. We won't mind 1 bit
Soo

Salamanca, NY

#22 Aug 7, 2012
I86 is fine the way it is. It should be left alone.
NDN MADE

Queens Village, NY

#23 Aug 8, 2012
Getitstriaght wrote:
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past must have been edited out. Let me clarify, HOAG and his mistress, LANA stole the money.is that better?
LOL yeah ok. Nice cover up! LMAO u already proved u dont know what youre talking about LOL
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#24 Aug 8, 2012
Not to spoil the rage-fest going on, but the state is obligated to maintain the roads as part of the agreement they signed with the SNI to cut across SNI lands. It's like a contract: one side says they'll do something in return for something of value from the other side. Contracts are signed all the time the world over, every day.
wipee

United States

#25 Aug 8, 2012
A casino should have never been put up in salamanca where the hills have eyes. The people there cant even get along with other natives. The hillbillies cant get ther heads out of the mountains long enough to pay attention. We should have just left them all the way they are. They will never change out there.
Who cares

Lockport, NY

#26 Aug 8, 2012
Hmm wrote:
<quoted text> You forgot to factor in the loss of taxes by the sale of houses to natives. When they are bought that is taxes lost. If your taxes dont go up then where is that money coming from? Casino money? Doesn't exist. Equals less money!
That's the thing. As a tax payer the amount that is given to the city for repairs is adjusted. So if a house is pulled from the tax rolls our taxes go up. And the same for the Indian lease. Everyone is hurt everytime a house is pulled from the rolls. So this excuse that they don't have the money is bull. Then I ask how then before the casino did the money allocated twards repairs exisist and now even after the increase in taxes that there are still no "real" repairs to our roads and infrastructure? Why are these questions not being asked at the city meetings and council meetings? And why do enrolled Soverign members of a different nation have the right to vote in our elections as real America elections? And we not theirs? Can we go to Canada an vote there? They are a conquered people who do not consider them selfs as America. So why are they honored? They are more racist tward their own. So I don't even want to hear them cry about the "white man" when they treat their own the way they do. That is a story that should be in the for front of everytime a Seneca speaks to the press. There should be a fence put up around the whole rezervation and need passports to travel in and out of the Rez. That's what they want I say give it to them. And let the same rules apply as any other foreign country. Or allow them to decide whether they want to be America or native. Hell half of them are white, more than half. But that's acceptable for them to treat their own in this manner and it's never brought up in public. I believe it's time to bring this issue into the light and force these Hippocrates to answer some tough questions in front of the press.
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#27 Aug 8, 2012
Interesting thought, but, post 1492, Europeans have never been able to just leave "them the way they are." I don't want to spoil the surprise, if you plan to read up on the history of early America, but let's put it this way: the European influence in the western hemisphere is, shall we say, like a plague. Not unlike the "Black Plague" that destroyed much of Europe between 1348 and 1350, except that this plague is white. It started out small, localized, and went largely untreated. Then it grew and spread until all of Turtle Island was infected, killing and displacing the local populations.

I'm sure those referred to by "them" would just /love/ it if they had been left alone. Throughout much of history, that's what they wanted, and were promised, but never got.(cf: "Treaty with The Six Nations," article III, last sentence; see here for quick reference: http://www.kahonwes.com/iroquois/nov1794.htm )

Now, get yourself a library card and borrow a few books to edify yourself. Ignorance /can/ be cured.
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#28 Aug 8, 2012
Hippocrates does not mean what you think it does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates

I think you want "hypocrites."

Either way, I think I'd rather deal with hypocrites than lying, conniving, back-stabbing, promise-breaking thieves. Wait - did I just describe white people?
scootyscoot

Salamanca, NY

#29 Aug 8, 2012
Who cares wrote:
<quoted text>That's the thing. As a tax payer the amount that is given to the city for repairs is adjusted. So if a house is pulled from the tax rolls our taxes go up. And the same for the Indian lease. Everyone is hurt everytime a house is pulled from the rolls. So this excuse that they don't have the money is bull. Then I ask how then before the casino did the money allocated twards repairs exisist and now even after the increase in taxes that there are still no "real" repairs to our roads and infrastructure? Why are these questions not being asked at the city meetings and council meetings? And why do enrolled Soverign members of a different nation have the right to vote in our elections as real America elections? And we not theirs? Can we go to Canada an vote there? They are a conquered people who do not consider them selfs as America. So why are they honored? They are more racist tward their own. So I don't even want to hear them cry about the "white man" when they treat their own the way they do. That is a story that should be in the for front of everytime a Seneca speaks to the press. There should be a fence put up around the whole rezervation and need passports to travel in and out of the Rez. That's what they want I say give it to them. And let the same rules apply as any other foreign country. Or allow them to decide whether they want to be America or native. Hell half of them are white, more than half. But that's acceptable for them to treat their own in this manner and it's never brought up in public. I believe it's time to bring this issue into the light and force these Hippocrates to answer some tough questions in front of the press.
Please know what you're talking about before spouting off! The Senecas are NOT a "conquered people". They were never defeated in war,this is their aboriginal land. How nice of the white man to allow them to have a small portion of it back. Go read a damn history book!
duh

Buffalo, NY

#30 Aug 9, 2012
Yesit true wrote:
<quoted text> but im not in charge
good thing bc you are a racist moron.
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#31 Aug 9, 2012
Unlike the white folks that post on here?
Not impressed

Buffalo, NY

#32 Aug 9, 2012
Yeah wrote:
Hippocrates does not mean what you think it does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocrates
I think you want "hypocrites."
Either way, I think I'd rather deal with hypocrites than lying, conniving, back-stabbing, promise-breaking thieves. Wait - did I just describe white people?
No,you just described Seneca nation.
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#33 Aug 9, 2012
Yes, because all throughout the history of Euro-Indian relations, the Indians have made promise after promise, in the form of treaties, and then broken them.

Oh, wait a sec - that was the white folks. Sorry.
Not impressed

Buffalo, NY

#34 Aug 9, 2012
Re-read your "history." You screw your own people over. Even worse.
izod

Salamanca, NY

#35 Aug 10, 2012
Native American populations descend from 3 key migrations
Scientists have found that Native American populations — from Canada to the southern tip of Chile — arose from at least three migrations, with the majority descended entirely from a single group of First American migrants that crossed over through Beringia, a land bridge between Asia and America that existed during the ice ages, more than 15,000 years ago.

By studying variations in Native American DNA sequences, the international team found that while most of the Native American populations arose from the first migration, two subsequent migrations also made important genetic contributions. The paper is published in the journal Nature today.

"For years it has been contentious whether the settlement of the Americas occurred by means of a single or multiple migrations from Siberia," said Professor Andres Ruiz-Linares (UCL Genetics, Evolution and Environment), who coordinated the study. "But our research settles this debate: Native Americans do not stem from a single migration. Our study also begins to cast light on patterns of human dispersal within the Americas."

In the most comprehensive survey of genetic diversity in Native Americans so far, the team took data from 52 Native American and 17 Siberian groups, studying more than 300,000 specific DNA sequence variations called Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms to examine patterns of genetic similarities and differences between the population groups.

The second and third migrations have left an impact only in Arctic populations that speak Eskimo-Aleut languages and in the Canadian Chipewyan who speak a Na-Dene language. However, even these populations have inherited most of their genome from the First American migration. Eskimo-Aleut speakers derive more than 50% of their DNA from First Americans, and the Chipewyan around 90%. This reflects the fact that these two later streams of Asian migration mixed with the First Americans they encountered after they arrived in North America.

"There are at least three deep lineages in Native American populations," said co-author David Reich, Professor of genetics at Harvard Medical School. "The Asian lineage leading to First Americans is the most anciently diverged, whereas the Asian lineages that contributed some of the DNA to Eskimo–Aleut speakers and the Na-Dene-speaking Chipewyan from Canada are more closely related to present-day East Asian populations."
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#36 Aug 10, 2012
Not impressed wrote:
Re-read your "history." You screw your own people over. Even worse.
If by "my people," you mean "white people," then hell, yeah - we screw over anyone and everyone. We're totally equal opportunity.

I mean, Pol Pot, Ghengis Kahn, Mao and Mugabe were pretty bad, but whites will always have Hitler, Stalin and Bush the second.
Not impressed

Buffalo, NY

#37 Aug 10, 2012
Yeah wrote:
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If by "my people," you mean "white people," then hell, yeah - we screw over anyone and everyone. We're totally equal opportunity.
I mean, Pol Pot, Ghengis Kahn, Mao and Mugabe were pretty bad, but whites will always have Hitler, Stalin and Bush the second.
And YOU
duh

Buffalo, NY

#38 Aug 13, 2012
Yeah wrote:
Unlike the white folks that post on here?
touche

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#39 Aug 13, 2012
All I Can Say Is Wow wrote:
OK, I am a non native and feel the state should fix the damn road.... It is a state highway built across land that they stole from the Senecas. If the state was concernefd about the safety of travellers , it would not have been allowed to fall into the state of disrepair that it has.
Give the land back to the SNI, barricade, tear up then close the road, re-route the traffic off the injun's land. Let the NATS build a road on their land and let the motorists decide if they want to use the NA's road or the states road!!

Since: Feb 12

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#40 Aug 13, 2012
NDN MADE wrote:
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YAY the beginning to end of all the hatred put on here!!! BY both INDIANS and whites!!
Poo poo wah...there are only 7932 enrolled senecas 1/4 live between the two territories and then the rest live off territory in olean allegany Bradford and farther and farther...the only place the indians dont pay a property tax is the city of salamanca...becasue the city of salamanca is bulit with in the boundaries of the seneca nation it allows its people to buy build or improve on homes that are for sale or empty lots...so how many houses are we really talking about here? 50 to 100 native owned in the city? Thats what youre crying about how much would thoose taxes be? Get me some facts on here instead of your normal mumble jumble and then maybe someone would give a crap!
Hmmmmmm?!?!?!?!?
Would you educate me and others on how many properties are located in the city, within the boundaries on the SNI lands, and of these totals how many are owned and are currently off the tax rolls of the city.

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