fatty

Salamanca, NY

#21 Nov 10, 2012
Ginnery wrote:
Oh and one more thing! Tina set her trailor on fire! She called her son before she did it and told him she was doing it... and he informed the police! My guess.. Burning the trailor was to hide evidence of what was happing in that trailor and to cover for the assholes that were buying and having sex with that poor 12yr old girl... I really hope that poor girl ends up with somebody good.
Along with those men, she also belongs in jail! As far as i'm concerned, her part in the crime of the repeated raping of her daughter is worse than the men who committed the sexual acts. And for those of you that have known this was going on....shame on you for not reporting it!!!! I have read several fb posts where people were stating they KNEW!!!!! WTF is wrong with people?
Just saying

Salamanca, NY

#22 Nov 10, 2012
wehaveasadcity wrote:
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Can you really do that? I've never heard that before.
Yes you can, if you are an interested party; for example if you were mentioned in it as one of the three men.

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#23 Nov 10, 2012
Just saying wrote:
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Yes you can, if you are an interested party; for example if you were mentioned in it as one of the three men.
LOL Your good !! BUT
You may want to add any complaint or statements filed in any police dept is in fact a public record. When I had to get Eddie Kents statements I had to go to Little Valley as it was in County Court. Oh and he was 15... Cost me $6.oo.. Inform people with some truth! How do you think the News dept's get there info?
And yes I do have the statement.. And My name is not in it.!!

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#24 Nov 10, 2012
fatty wrote:
<quoted text> I have read several fb posts where people were stating they KNEW!!!!! WTF is wrong with people?
To be honest most do not want to deal with the scrutiny and bullshit of being a wittness. After digging in your life they make you out to be the guilty. So people will and do look the other way in fear of being put thrue the legal ringer that takes a toll on you. But then you end up with someone who beleives in the system and tries to make a diffrence.
For the most part people can't be blamed for the fear of standing up against the lawyers who's main goal is to discredit and disgrace you as a wittness..
SadStory

Olean, NY

#25 Nov 10, 2012
timginnery wrote:
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LOL Your good !! BUT
You may want to add any complaint or statements filed in any police dept is in fact a public record. When I had to get Eddie Kents statements I had to go to Little Valley as it was in County Court. Oh and he was 15... Cost me $6.oo.. Inform people with some truth! How do you think the News dept's get there info?
And yes I do have the statement.. And My name is not in it.!!
How does this concern you that you would make that much of an effort to go down there to get the record?? Is it job related or are you just nosy?
Dum bass

Salamanca, NY

#26 Nov 10, 2012
Wow Sad Story... yeah most people don't find it hard or containing a lot of effort to actually get in a vehicle and drive to the Salamanca Police Department to walk up and request information.... How much do you manage to get out of bed, seems to me that takes as much effort, and apparently you're just as, if not more nosy by poking your nose around.
I can tell you how it concerns him, A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL WAS BEING PROSITUTED OUT BY HER MOTHER SO HER MOTHER COULD GET SMASHED AND LISTEN TO HER DAUGHTER BEING RUN DOWN BY 3 MEN, SO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR HER HONOR? At least he is raising the awareness level of scum like her and these 3 men. I personally would like to know the name of these 3 child rapists, maybe I have something important to say to them ;<

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#27 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
If it involves a minor., that file would be confidential.
That is a false truth.
They do everything to protect the minor child's ID as does the media. But you may notice something. The people using her name in open format know the mother and child involved. And you may also notice I have not even mentioned the 3 men's names..( Not that I don't want to..) All I have confirmed is there is a Supporting deposition filed on Tina Wagoner for prostituting her 12 year old daughter to 3 diffrent men. And that I think she burned the bed and trailer in an effort to prevent and DNA testing as she knew of the investigation.. Not Poor Tina and 3 men. In my eye's it is Poor little girl.. Just putting some fact's to the story..

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#28 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
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How does this concern you that you would make that much of an effort to go down there to get the record?? Is it job related or are you just nosy?
LMAO @ SadStory
Some may see this as "Look who's calling the kettle black!"

What if I told you I was handed the statement to work the case as I am an undercover F.B.I. agent and C.I. for the D.E.A.?

But, HELL YA I AM NOSY !! What da hell you think I am on this site for ?? Are you nosy or are you a secret agent man ?
SadStory

Olean, NY

#29 Nov 10, 2012
Honestly , if you were doing this in the child's honor, you would not have obtained the info and posted what you found on this site. You know Salamanca is a small gossipy town, and as you said everyone knows who her child is. Don't you think this child has experienced enough shame without you posting things like that.... I really hope that they take this post down.

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#30 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
Honestly , if you were doing this in the child's honor, you would not have obtained the info and posted what you found on this site. You know Salamanca is a small gossipy town, and as you said everyone knows who her child is. Don't you think this child has experienced enough shame without you posting things like that.... I really hope that they take this post down.
Sorry, I am unsure how you can see anything I posted as being in the childs honor.. I posted "facts" reguarding a criminal case of Prostitution and child rape. As I am fully aware of the "small gossipy town" And it makes me sick when it comes to Poor Tina Wagoner.. I am waiting for the 3 Men named to get there day in court as well.. And not to mention I have been informed this has been going on for years !!! You think about that...

The child is "Now" safe and protected I happen do know for a fact.. But I would like to see Tina come clean under a plea agreement in which see testifies against all the men that raped the child... But then can you relate to that? Or do you have something to fear about it all coming out into the open?
So anyone who knows anything should contact the Salamanca PD and file a statement.. Now that would be something you could do in the childs honor...
SadStory

Olean, NY

#31 Nov 10, 2012
No, I see what you posted as being a gossipy bitch. Tina is a useless piece of flesh and always has been. For you to go to the police station and get the report is BEYOND nosy and trifling. Don;t you think the little girl has friends that will see this post and know it is her. No one has ever said POOR TINA...OK, so it was in the report you allegedly retrieved.. No one needed to know the gossipy details but those in authority ..this is NOT the place .... You have just put something out there for the world to see that is just as harmful to this child as what was done to her. Can you say Rona Barrett?
Dum bass

Salamanca, NY

#32 Nov 10, 2012
I can say Rona Barret, however I don't see how that helps, nor do I know who he/she is or the story you are implying. I however can say, how does making this a secret and hiding it from the public help anybody? Raising awareness of crap like this will help prevent it in the future, an ounce of prevention is worth more then a pound of cure. Let me elaborate, 1 person who is disgusted and appalled by this is worth more then 1 district attorney getting another notch on his/her political belt. If 1 person is willing to report this bullock and stand up and say I will not sit idle while this girl/boy suffers in a situation like this then I am happy.
However let me point out that most people reading this (BESIDES YOU APPARENTLY) are sickened and will do something about it if they happen to come across a similar situation whereas you are going to ignore it and think I'm doing this rape victim a favor by not ruining her/his reputation by seeking justice.
If my parents were selling me for sex and I was unable to do anything about it I would praise the one person(HERO) that put an end to it, and would harbor hate and resentment to all people like YOU who would seek to keep it hush hush by pretending nothing happened....
Would you rather 10 more kids having this happen because the average person isn't aware, or 2 more kids having it happen and 8 being prevented because the average person stepped up and said not on my watch!
Screw you "Sad Story" the only thing sad is your willingness to cover this up with a wool blanket, gossipy bitch has nothing to do with this. Nobody is going OMG did you hear what so in so did to so in so, oh wow blah blah, this is more like hey can you beleive this crap is happening in our city and nobody is doing anything about it!!! No sir, this is not gossip, it's public awareness. When a rampaging serial killer is on the loose, do you call the person telling you about it that they are a gossipy bitch? what is different here? the difference is the dead don't live a life of misery knowing what happened to them has gone unpunished because people don't want it talked about and solved, you disgust me!
Do you think I like knowing this crap happens? NOPE I sure as hell don't, but it clearly does happen and the more people that know it happens the more people that are going to try to prevent/stop it from continuing so you go back into your perfect little bubble of a world where child prostitution is something that just doesn't happen, while we continue living in the real world where child prostitution needs to be prevented and stopped
SadStory

Olean, NY

#33 Nov 10, 2012
Ok , you are sooooo not getting my point... Yes it is vile and disgusting.... She has been caught and hopefully charged, but the point is the abuse that went on is out in the open. CPS intervened and thankfully did take the child away. Now hopefully she is in a safe place and can start healing and get the help that she is so desperately going to need. She is being helped.

This thread is about a fire at Hemlock and look what it has turned into. Someone violating the privacy of that child.... now because of what you said, everyone knows what horrible things happened to her. Salamanca is not kind, she will be more than likely be ostracized by her peers . You really don't think that 12 yos don't read thisI ??? She has already been traumatized and now because of your post, everyone knows. I thnk you posted that for your own gain, to make yourself seem important becasue you know more details ...

The prostitution thing has been exposed, those who were involved will get in trouble,,, and you just made the whole situation 100x worse for this girl.

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#34 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
No, I see what you posted as being a gossipy bitch. Tina is a useless piece of flesh and always has been. For you to go to the police station and get the report is BEYOND nosy and trifling. Don;t you think the little girl has friends that will see this post and know it is her. No one has ever said POOR TINA...OK, so it was in the report you allegedly retrieved.. No one needed to know the gossipy details but those in authority ..this is NOT the place .... You have just put something out there for the world to see that is just as harmful to this child as what was done to her. Can you say Rona Barrett?
Sorry, I do not know Rona Barret. Give me a sec...

Ok is that " Rona Barrett (born Rona Burstein, October 8, 1936, New York City) is an American gossip columnist and businesswoman. She currently runs the Rona Barrett Foundation, a non-profit organization in Santa Ynez, California, dedicated to the aid and support of senior citizens in need." ???

Sounds like someone I would like to know.. But I said facts help on here.. For example. You seeing me as a "gossipy bitch" May I ask if you can see my picture on my post? I would asume in the one attempted insult you have made you have falsified information in two ways.(1) I am in fact not a Dog.(Note picture)(2) I am not a Female Dog (Note picture) But I will give you the (Gossipy) part as that be defined.

"Gossip: is idle talk or rumour about the personal or private affairs of others. It is one of the oldest and most common means of sharing facts,"

Here is Your Sign !!! LMAO @ SadStory
You Better log off and sign in with a new fake username !!
SadStory

Olean, NY

#35 Nov 10, 2012
Yes, I see you as a gossipy bitch. You can still be a male and be a gossipy bitch.... DonI't try to make me look stupid with your "JAILHOUSE LAWYER" crap... nitpicking and TRYING to sound intelligent. Must be you are too stupid to understand what I was trying to infer.... Basically quit being a gossipy bitch and realize that you may have possibly harmed her by spreading your information on a trash site, under the pretense we need to know and for justice. Think of who you are "spreading" information about on the internet and maybe the fact that this information may actually hurt the VICTIM further...

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#36 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
Yes, I see you as a gossipy bitch. You can still be a male and be a gossipy bitch.... DonI't try to make me look stupid with your "JAILHOUSE LAWYER" crap... nitpicking and TRYING to sound intelligent. Must be you are too stupid to understand what I was trying to infer.... Basically quit being a gossipy bitch and realize that you may have possibly harmed her by spreading your information on a trash site, under the pretense we need to know and for justice. Think of who you are "spreading" information about on the internet and maybe the fact that this information may actually hurt the VICTIM further...
I tend to think your defending something more than the child involved.. What are you hiding that my post upset you? It is about the fire in hemlock trailer park in Salamanca is it not? My opinion was She burned the trailer to get rid of evidence on several men in the area that was raping a little girl..
Would you not like to know these men are not taking turns on your child? The real honor for the victim would be that because of her several other little girls can live in a safer area..

FYI I would suck as a jailhouse lawyer, Every time I got arrested I plead guity and paid my dues.. LOL But then that is public record as well !!
SadStory

Olean, NY

#37 Nov 10, 2012
timginnery wrote:
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I tend to think your defending something more than the child involved.. What are you hiding that my post upset you? It is about the fire in hemlock trailer park in Salamanca is it not? My opinion was She burned the trailer to get rid of evidence on several men in the area that was raping a little girl..
Would you not like to know these men are not taking turns on your child? The real honor for the victim would be that because of her several other little girls can live in a safer area..
FYI I would suck as a jailhouse lawyer, Every time I got arrested I plead guity and paid my dues.. LOL But then that is public record as well !!
Your are soooo not gettting it dude.... I am not hiding anything.. Iam no way involved... I just know who Tina is and was never impressed with her. My point is you posted on the Worldwide Web what happened to the girl...after she was already taken away in a safe spot. Now thanks to your big mouth, everyone knows what happened to her ...and she has to live with the shame of everyone knowing.... Stellar move Tim....
jusayin

Buffalo, NY

#38 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
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Your are soooo not gettting it dude.... I am not hiding anything.. Iam no way involved... I just know who Tina is and was never impressed with her. My point is you posted on the Worldwide Web what happened to the girl...after she was already taken away in a safe spot. Now thanks to your big mouth, everyone knows what happened to her ...and she has to live with the shame of everyone knowing.... Stellar move Tim....
everytime you comment on this thread, it moves to the top of the page bringing it more attention, making you the pot calling the kettle
report abuse

Buffalo, NY

#39 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
Honestly , if you were doing this in the child's honor, you would not have obtained the info and posted what you found on this site. You know Salamanca is a small gossipy town, and as you said everyone knows who her child is. Don't you think this child has experienced enough shame without you posting things like that.... I really hope that they take this post down.
Have you reported this thread yet? Topix will not just automatically or magically remove it. If you feel so strongly, you'll have to do more than "hope" they will.

Since: Oct 10

Salamanca

#40 Nov 10, 2012
SadStory wrote:
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Your are soooo not gettting it dude.... I am not hiding anything.. Iam no way involved... I just know who Tina is and was never impressed with her. My point is you posted on the Worldwide Web what happened to the girl...after she was already taken away in a safe spot. Now thanks to your big mouth, everyone knows what happened to her ...and she has to live with the shame of everyone knowing.... Stellar move Tim....
Ok so what you are saying is I did not say anything about what happened all would be ok? But when it bust loose in the news and is in papers and TV that is all good ? Ok I got it now!! I have to wait untill the proper news of it is released?

But then maybe I am just missing your point..
And I am realy good at slamming insults around if you desire to keep taking little jabs..

See your talking about long turm damage as if nobody will ever know about it when she is older... Well let me give you some personal facts about that.. She will always know. And she will even talk about it to friends and people. That little girl will have to face it as she grows up, deal with it and get past it. That will always be in her life and nomatter if nobody in the world knows about it she does.. That is the facts..

I find it interesting you used the term "she has to live in shame because of my big mouth." May I ask why you would feel she has shame wether along would live in shame? Now that does interest me.. That even may explain your emotional upset over this more than anything..

And try to be stronger and not let your anger keep insulting me. You may provoke me into calling you something like "Gnu" lol

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