GIVE salamanca to the NATIVES !!!

GIVE salamanca to the NATIVES !!!

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CDb

United States

#1 Aug 6, 2012
In 2030 when that lease is up they should give this place over to natives!!!

Concerned Onlooker

Since: Oct 10

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#2 Aug 6, 2012
CDb wrote:
In 2030 when that lease is up they should give this place over to natives!!!
I'm sure Salamanca will be ONE BIG-ASS SMOKE SHOP by then !!!
duh

Buffalo, NY

#3 Aug 9, 2012
salamanca already belongs to the natives. the city is only a renter.

Concerned Onlooker

Since: Oct 10

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#4 Aug 9, 2012
duh wrote:
salamanca already belongs to the natives. the city is only a renter.
and the LANDLORD izza SLUMLORD !!!
hoeshmoe

United States

#5 Aug 9, 2012
You can have it! Buy me out today!
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#7 Aug 9, 2012
CO, you poor, old fool: your memory is shot. Lay off the booze,'mkay...? Take your One-A-Day and sit back while I - try to - refresh your memory.

The city was located on Nation land and the deal was, shall we say, less than fair. I mean, really: who's going to get rich on $1 a year per parcel? The city flourished and then faded away, like a lot of other small towns in the area, and the next time a lease was negotiated, the Indians didn't bend over and take it, un-lubed, as previously. City residents should be grateful the SNI negotiated at all: they could've said, "No, we're not leasing the land any more," and, poof, the city would've reverted to Indian hands.

So, the whites in the city still have their houses and it's up to them to keep them presentable. If you want to complain about the city looking like a slum, blame the home-owners. Unfortunately, the SNI does /not/- to my knowledge - have a clause in the lease that forces non-native home-owners to keep their properties tip-top. I know of a number of homes I'd like to see razed. I don't see where you can fault the SNI for that.

On a side note, I'd appreciate it if you'd answer one thing for me: what's your beef with the smoke shops? Are you on some personal jihad against smoking? Are you equally against alcohol? Do you worry about the dangers posed by fracking? If so, are you on the front-lines of the protest - and there's one coming up this weekend near the Finger Lakes -? If not, as I suspect, is it just the fact that /some/ Indians found great wealth through the sale of tobacco that boils your blood? Is it nothing more than petty jealousy? Maybe you're scared because the Indians are becoming self-sufficient, if not wealthy, and not dependent on, or subservient to, whitey. I'm guessing you don't mind Indians, as long as they're not "uppity," and "know their place." In which case, phuch you.
Not impressed

Buffalo, NY

#8 Aug 9, 2012
^^Aren't you more than half white yourself^^

Concerned Onlooker

Since: Oct 10

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#9 Aug 10, 2012
Yeah wrote:
CO, you poor, old fool: your memory is shot. Lay off the booze,'mkay...? Take your One-A-Day and sit back while I - try to - refresh your memory.
The city was located on Nation land and the deal was, shall we say, less than fair. I mean, really: who's going to get rich on $1 a year per parcel? The city flourished and then faded away, like a lot of other small towns in the area, and the next time a lease was negotiated, the Indians didn't bend over and take it, un-lubed, as previously. City residents should be grateful the SNI negotiated at all: they could've said, "No, we're not leasing the land any more," and, poof, the city would've reverted to Indian hands.
So, the whites in the city still have their houses and it's up to them to keep them presentable. If you want to complain about the city looking like a slum, blame the home-owners. Unfortunately, the SNI does /not/- to my knowledge - have a clause in the lease that forces non-native home-owners to keep their properties tip-top. I know of a number of homes I'd like to see razed. I don't see where you can fault the SNI for that.
On a side note, I'd appreciate it if you'd answer one thing for me: what's your beef with the smoke shops? Are you on some personal jihad against smoking? Are you equally against alcohol? Do you worry about the dangers posed by fracking? If so, are you on the front-lines of the protest - and there's one coming up this weekend near the Finger Lakes -? If not, as I suspect, is it just the fact that /some/ Indians found great wealth through the sale of tobacco that boils your blood? Is it nothing more than petty jealousy? Maybe you're scared because the Indians are becoming self-sufficient, if not wealthy, and not dependent on, or subservient to, whitey. I'm guessing you don't mind Indians, as long as they're not "uppity," and "know their place." In which case, phuch you.
CLEAN yer CRACKPIPE 'n STFU !!!
dgggghjvdg

Athens, PA

#10 Aug 10, 2012
Americans are the only people in the world I think nice/stupid enough to come take over a country and then give them reservations and then listen to them complain about it. if germany took over in the world war there would be no native american reservations. so why don't you start saying thank you and just stop complaining
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#12 Aug 10, 2012
Concerned Onlooker wrote:
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CLEAN yer CRACKPIPE 'n STFU !!!
That's the best you got? Captain of the debate team, were you?
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#13 Aug 10, 2012
Not impressed wrote:
^^Aren't you more than half white yourself^^
And that has what bearing on this discussion?
Jib Jab

Buffalo, NY

#14 Aug 10, 2012
dgggghjvdg wrote:
Americans are the only people in the world I think nice/stupid enough to come take over a country and then give them reservations and then listen to them complain about it. if germany took over in the world war there would be no native american reservations. so why don't you start saying thank you and just stop complaining
How do you know? What if Germany gave the Natives even more of their land back?
white individual

Salamanca, NY

#15 Aug 14, 2012
I agree, the natives should get it back. then lets see what it looks like. us americans can tear down the houses and they can go back to their tee pees and howl at the moon like wolves! get excited!
mno

Buffalo, NY

#16 Aug 14, 2012
You can't tear the house down without a permit.
Yeah

Buffalo, NY

#17 Aug 14, 2012
Let's not let facts get in the way of a good, ignorant rant. Shoot, you'd take away the majority of conversations on here.
BigDipper

Cambridge, MA

#18 Sep 12, 2012
salamanca was born on smoke shops.... if it wasnt for indian smoke shops this town would be broke worse then it already is...

Since: Jul 11

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#19 Sep 12, 2012
The SNI owns the land, and rents its property to non indians who, per the lease own the additions made to their land IE homes.
I wonder how the nats would fare if the people stooped paying taxes, utilities and their mortgages thus moving away?
Then the nats would be left with all this property, without the knowledge of how to run the utilities thus causing their casino to cease its operations.
Bet the nats would start losing big bucks and want to re-open the lease in favor of those people who moved out!
brittany c

Buffalo, NY

#20 Sep 13, 2012
wow lol im 50% native

Since: May 12

Salamanca, NY

#21 Sep 13, 2012
white individual wrote:
I agree, the natives should get it back. then lets see what it looks like. us americans can tear down the houses and they can go back to their tee pees and howl at the moon like wolves! get excited!
The Native Americans who lived in the Salamanca area before it was settled lived in longhouses, not teepees.
Carmen Voter

Buffalo, NY

#22 Sep 13, 2012
They get your Money Every week end up the Casino

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