Family-owned New York firm moving to ...

Family-owned New York firm moving to Bradford, Pa.

There are 35 comments on the PhillyBurbs.com story from Jan 26, 2011, titled Family-owned New York firm moving to Bradford, Pa.. In it, PhillyBurbs.com reports that:

A local economic official says a family-owned business is crossing the New York border to relocate in Bradford, and bringing about 60 jobs with it.

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Since: Jan 11

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#1 Jan 27, 2011
Another good company leaving Salamanca. A big reason is the SNI lease along with its many ramifications and problems. The Nation has not made it profitable to stay for non Native American businesses and gives little or no incentive for them to continue business in Salamanca. With the reduction of about 50% of city workers including fire fighters and police officers any business would be subject to more damage, theft, or simply not having a prompt fire department response. The SNI witholding the agreed upon compact payment to the state of NY with its revenue sharing ear marked to go to Salamanca is having its affect on many people. Until the political climate , the SNI leadership changes, and until the gaming compact agreements are complied with the town is "doomed." The only thing left after awhile will look like Detroit now with abandoned buildings, abandoned factories, and people leaving in droves. At this point is simply is a matter of time......yes time.
palleeze

Salamanca, NY

#2 Jan 27, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
Another good company leaving Salamanca. A big reason is the SNI lease along with its many ramifications and problems. The Nation has not made it profitable to stay for non Native American businesses and gives little or no incentive for them to continue business in Salamanca. With the reduction of about 50% of city workers including fire fighters and police officers any business would be subject to more damage, theft, or simply not having a prompt fire department response. The SNI witholding the agreed upon compact payment to the state of NY with its revenue sharing ear marked to go to Salamanca is having its affect on many people. Until the political climate , the SNI leadership changes, and until the gaming compact agreements are complied with the town is "doomed." The only thing left after awhile will look like Detroit now with abandoned buildings, abandoned factories, and people leaving in droves. At this point is simply is a matter of time......yes time.
Put the violin down will ya? You didn't tell us all how and what the city did to keep them here. What about that part huh? ALL anti-SNI.
NOT BARBIE

Salamanca, NY

#3 Jan 27, 2011
We around here don't care about things like that, we only like trash and bash topics!
what the

Salamanca, NY

#4 Jan 27, 2011
It's snowing again. That damn SNI.

Since: Jan 11

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#5 Jan 27, 2011
palleeze wrote:
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Put the violin down will ya? You didn't tell us all how and what the city did to keep them here. What about that part huh? ALL anti-SNI.
Other than you turkeys going off topic what else is new. I own property in Salamanca and have worked in Western New York for over 21 years. And I know what is going on. Have also worked at the Casino and have had a lot of Native American friends. The problem is the leadership up at top that in their narrow line of thinking are biting the hand that has fed it so long-the people of the community of Salamanca,NY. What happened to the good neighbor policy? I have family here, worked here, shopped here, and have spent a considerable period of time here. Frankly don't know how to play the violin but you folks are blowing your trumpet but nothing of meaning comes out. Ask yourselves the reasons for moving? Burned out factories, declining economy, smaller city services, high NYS taxes and the rest. PA offers more much more and they will build a new facility that will be efficient. That will be more profitable for their stock holders. And that is "business."

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#6 Jan 27, 2011
what the wrote:
It's snowing again. That damn SNI.
Are you nuts? The SNI of Indians may have a lot of control but they cannot control the weather? But now I think it is "raining on your parade!" Something about more moisture in the air from global warming which really jumped with all of your hot air.

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#7 Jan 27, 2011
NOT BARBIE wrote:
We around here don't care about things like that, we only like trash and bash topics!
Trash and bash? Hmm must be a Cave-Man. Where is your club to whack someone over the head? But take a slug of lightning from yer "jug" and it will be "ok!"

Concerned Onlooker

Since: Oct 10

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#8 Jan 27, 2011
It due more to TAXES than the SNI being why they're leaving NY to re-locate in PA !!!
DUH

Salamanca, NY

#9 Jan 27, 2011
Yeah with Barbie in the name I'd assume a man too. YUCK YUCK YUCK
NOT BARBIE

Salamanca, NY

#10 Jan 27, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
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Trash and bash? Hmm must be a Cave-Man. Where is your club to whack someone over the head? But take a slug of lightning from yer "jug" and it will be "ok!"
maybe you need to up your meds! you sure get going easily, which is why i said that! flush out the whine asses! thank you for proving my point! i'm female! but i did lmao at the cave man comment!

please dont be stupid

Since: Dec 10

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#11 Jan 27, 2011
Its sad that the powers to be can't get together to convince a local company to stay in the area. Also, the state with its high taxes and fees are to blame too.
I wonder if there was any negotiation involving the company and local governments about this issue?

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#12 Jan 28, 2011
NOT BARBIE wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you need to up your meds! you sure get going easily, which is why i said that! flush out the whine asses! thank you for proving my point! i'm female! but i did lmao at the cave man comment!
Ah you must be an "Amazon-woman" Cave man type. Gosh you really need to get a grip lady. Put away that "club."

Since: Jan 09

Salamanca, NY

#13 Jan 31, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
Another good company leaving Salamanca. A big reason is the SNI lease along with its many ramifications and problems.


If this was the case, then why didn’t the company leave in 1991 when the lease was decided? Why did they wait until now to leave? Did they do this as a way to show their disgust with the lease negotiations, and thus wait almost 20 years to make their move? Brilliant deduction reasoning if this was really the cause and not just a figment of your imagination.
Prophecynow wrote:
The Nation has not made it profitable to stay for non Native American businesses and gives little or no incentive for them to continue business in Salamanca.


The Nation is now responsible for creating incentives for non-Seneca and non-Native businesses to grow in Salamanca? What incentives are we talking about here, like say, not applying a Seneca Nation tax on goods and services provided to non-Natives and on businesses in Salamanca? Oh, that is 100% correct. The Seneca Nation does not request or mandate any tax collection on businesses run by non-Natives within Salamanca. Do you believe that the Seneca Nation cannot levy a tax and fees on these businesses for conducting business here? They can, but they do not. So, certainly the Seneca Nation is not impeding business here with regressive and excessive tax schemes.

Since: Jan 09

Salamanca, NY

#14 Jan 31, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
With the reduction of about 50% of city workers including fire fighters and police officers any business would be subject to more damage, theft, or simply not having a prompt fire department response. The SNI witholding the agreed upon compact payment to the state of NY with its revenue sharing ear marked to go to Salamanca is having its affect on many people.
Another novel idea that is completely erroneous. The Seneca Nation is attempting to prevent the State from constructing gaming enterprises that would compete with the Seneca Allegany Casino, and thus hurt this regions job base. They withheld the payment as a result of NY States blatant breach of an exclusivity clause, a clause that helps the city of Salamanca retain and now grow more business here. When NY State is done building its casinos at all of its racetracks, where do you think the jobs will go? The City is suffering due to the State not allocating funds to the city—as the State has made it absolutely clear that it is they who fund the city’s payroll (not the Seneca Nation).

Since: Jan 09

Salamanca, NY

#15 Jan 31, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
Until the political climate, the SNI leadership changes, and until the gaming compact agreements are complied with the town is "doomed." The only thing left after awhile will look like Detroit now with abandoned buildings, abandoned factories, and people leaving in droves. At this point is simply is a matter of time......yes time.
The city of Salamanca has seen a rise in jobs, economic growth and a noticeable increase in the average home prices and value. Far from the doom and gloom of your faux imaginary skills in fortune telling—your vision of a non-rust belt Salamanca is laughable. The factories left in the eighties and we have been somewhat insulated in large part due to the political moves made by Seneca leadership. Who else has brought in and built over $100 million + dollars worth of infrastructure to this region, providing construction, labor and professional jobs to Salamanca?

If you are not business savvy enough to take advantage of the increase in Seneca buying power and spending, then that is your problem—and no doubt your problem is due in large part to the State of New York reaching extra deep into your pocketbook.

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#16 Feb 1, 2011
DUH wrote:
Yeah with Barbie in the name I'd assume a man too. YUCK YUCK YUCK
Hmm not Barbie-something like not Gay. Or simply not female but male. Smoke screen. But if not Barbie then that individual must be Ugly......Think about it turkeybird. Couple different slants.

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#17 Feb 1, 2011
Onigeahyoh wrote:
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The city of Salamanca has seen a rise in jobs, economic growth and a noticeable increase in the average home prices and value. Far from the doom and gloom of your faux imaginary skills in fortune telling—your vision of a non-rust belt Salamanca is laughable. The factories left in the eighties and we have been somewhat insulated in large part due to the political moves made by Seneca leadership. Who else has brought in and built over $100 million + dollars worth of infrastructure to this region, providing construction, labor and professional jobs to Salamanca?
If you are not business savvy enough to take advantage of the increase in Seneca buying power and spending, then that is your problem—and no doubt your problem is due in large part to the State of New York reaching extra deep into your pocketbook.
Other than the fact that you have never apparently studied Economics you are "nuts!" There is NO increase in jobs in Salamanca. Certainly not in the police department, city workers, or firefighters because "due" to the SNI illegally holding back compact money half the work force had to go. Hmm in the public sector jobs have dropped big time. Is that an increase in jobs? Economic growth? Where have you been a mountain in Tibet-there has been ZERO growth other than the SNI smoke shops, gas stations, or the casino. Living here I have seen it all. Did the closure of the hospital mean an increase in jobs? Yeah sure! Increase in home sales-you must be smoking some controlled substance in your pipe. Home sales in Salamanca have taken a huge nose dive. Have some houses I have not been able to sell in years even though have slashed the prices to less than paid for them. Only can rent them out for barely expenses with all of the taxes and Indian lease. Talk to any Realtor-this is the Bermuda triangle of home sales.
Sure the SNI built the Casino anyone with eyes can see that. However, after that the last two years they have "illegally" withheld over $200 million in compact money from the state of New York stating other casinos have been built in NYS. Other Native Americans far to the east have done this. The Exclusive contract was for Western New YOrk and they got it. Now they are crying because PA legalized gambling and they have competitors-boo hoo. The only business savy I lack is not being a high ranking officer in the SNI tribe. Then I could indeed share in the gravy train. The ones who are reaching deep in pockets is the current leadership of the SNI causing untold hardship to the people of Salamanca who helped with the building and running of the casino. And I was one of them now soured over the violation of the compact.
Runningman

Douglas, GA

#18 Feb 1, 2011
Prophecynow wrote:
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Other than the fact that you have never apparently studied Economics you are "nuts!" There is NO increase in jobs in Salamanca. Certainly not in the police department, city workers, or firefighters because "due" to the SNI illegally holding back compact money half the work force had to go. Hmm in the public sector jobs have dropped big time. Is that an increase in jobs? Economic growth? Where have you been a mountain in Tibet-there has been ZERO growth other than the SNI smoke shops, gas stations, or the casino. Living here I have seen it all. Did the closure of the hospital mean an increase in jobs? Yeah sure! Increase in home sales-you must be smoking some controlled substance in your pipe. Home sales in Salamanca have taken a huge nose dive. Have some houses I have not been able to sell in years even though have slashed the prices to less than paid for them. Only can rent them out for barely expenses with all of the taxes and Indian lease. Talk to any Realtor-this is the Bermuda triangle of home sales.
Sure the SNI built the Casino anyone with eyes can see that. However, after that the last two years they have "illegally" withheld over $200 million in compact money from the state of New York stating other casinos have been built in NYS. Other Native Americans far to the east have done this. The Exclusive contract was for Western New YOrk and they got it. Now they are crying because PA legalized gambling and they have competitors-boo hoo. The only business savy I lack is not being a high ranking officer in the SNI tribe. Then I could indeed share in the gravy train. The ones who are reaching deep in pockets is the current leadership of the SNI causing untold hardship to the people of Salamanca who helped with the building and running of the casino. And I was one of them now soured over the violation of the compact.
This is so true. The SNI has created jobs for the Nation by expanding the smoke shops, gas stations, and the Casino. Unfortunately they seem to post billboards sayin obey the treaty but they do not themselves. People are misled by what is rumored to be more jobs. Living here I haven't seen it. Luminit wanted to stayy but with the cloud of "doom & gloom" coming down onSalamanca they were wise and left the state for greener pastures.
Have friendws with houses on rhe res & they are having an impossible job to sell-one friend say no reaaltor will touch his house to list.....
Runningman

Douglas, GA

#19 Feb 1, 2011
Oh yes lived on the res for over 21 years before moved south where it is warm and lower taxes.
MIKE

New York, NY

#20 Feb 1, 2011
The reasons they are leaving is because NYS - Catt. County - City of Salamanca - SNI did not offer them anything to stay. The incentives from the state , county and city were zero . The city would not offer them any of the land on State Park Ave. , and ten hours after the fire the SNI went up to the people of Luminite - not to offer them any type of help , they just told them they wanted the land and walked away - nice move SNI.

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