Porter-raids on the seneca's
blaming porter for what

Baldwin, NY

#21 Sep 27, 2012
After reading the article in the Post Journal...this seems to be an issue between an "enrolled member" of the SNI and the Federal goverment. Not once did I see Porters name or any of the councilors names in the report.
Is the SNI obligated to protect an 'enrolled" member if they break Federal Laws?
NOBODY is immune to FEDERAL LAWS - if you look at your pay check - you will see a FEDERAL TAX deduction. EVEN if you work on the nation territory. How sovereign is that?
i heard

Baldwin, NY

#22 Sep 27, 2012
I heard Barry Snyder is telling certain business owners that he will do away with the Import / Export commissior.

Doing that it will open the door for more Feds to come onto the territory and enforce the "tax" stamp. The Feds agreed that we as a nation be our own regulators, hence the Import / Export Commission.
Stupid is as stupid does

Irving, NY

#23 Sep 27, 2012
i heard wrote:
I heard Barry Snyder is telling certain business owners that he will do away with the Import / Export commissior.
Doing that it will open the door for more Feds to come onto the territory and enforce the "tax" stamp. The Feds agreed that we as a nation be our own regulators, hence the Import / Export Commission.
He did say that~ I was there. The feds dont want to regulate what we sell on tribal lands...its when you take them off or ship them in from another state thats the problem but yes...if our OWN people wont abide by our laws then they should have to deal with the federal government.All these business owners are all crooks too a business in tribal land is just as dirty as the politics. I say kick all the nasty no good people of territory and theyll have something real to gripe about having to pay the state tax and fed tax on everything. The Senecas are not above FEDERAL LAW>>>they think they are but arent the treaties were made with federals some people need to look in a dictionary for the definition of Sovereign..it doesnt say you can do what ever you want where ever you want and get away with it! You should hold your self to higher standard...another example on how money cant buy you everything...including a brain!!
Stupid is as stupid does

Irving, NY

#24 Sep 27, 2012
If the SENECAS are above the federal law why do we pay federal tax??? HMMM?
Concerned

Irving, NY

#25 Sep 27, 2012
wow wrote:
Now we know why are our nation is going to hell. Dumb people. We havent got an import/export check in 2yrs. And the nation collects off of all cigarettes sold on both territories. But Porter gave a million dollars of that money to the black people in Buff. That live around the Buff.casino so they could apply for home improvement and fix up their nasty houses so people didnt have to look at that when they go to the casino. Porter is pocketing our money. But people like DUMB allow it to happen because some people refuse to smarten up
Its called a business investment you moron! You keep making ROB look better and better!!
Why

United States

#26 Sep 27, 2012
Stupid is as stupid does wrote:
If the SENECAS are above the federal law why do we pay federal tax??? HMMM?
Yes you are. Now go back. Read it again and then answer.
Ikon

Buffalo, NY

#27 Sep 27, 2012
Stupid is as stupid does wrote:
If the SENECAS are above the federal law why do we pay federal tax??? HMMM?
Because you're not really sovereign , we just let you think you are.
Yeah

Hamburg, NY

#28 Sep 27, 2012
reader wrote:
<quoted text>i read all your posts, when i see you've commented on something i can't wait to see what you said. you're the only smart person on here! also funny and witty! don't disappear, or get discouraged with the amount of igorance on here.
Thank you for the kind words.
Yeah

Hamburg, NY

#29 Sep 27, 2012
Ikon wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you're not really sovereign , we just let you think you are.
This is another way of saying, "We lie. We don't mean what we say. We say things to take advantage of you, but fully expect you to honor your word."

One example, of many throughout history: the Walking Treaty.

http://explorepahistory.com/hmarker.php...

Yes, whites are /so/ superior to other races. But not necessarily in ways that make an honest person proud.
question

Baldwin, NY

#30 Sep 28, 2012
Stupid is as stupid does wrote:
If the SENECAS are above the federal law why do we pay federal tax??? HMMM?
how do you feel about that? doing away with the I/E C?
question

Baldwin, NY

#31 Sep 28, 2012
Stupid is as stupid does wrote:
<quoted text>
He did say that~ I was there. The feds dont want to regulate what we sell on tribal lands...its when you take them off or ship them in from another state thats the problem but yes...if our OWN people wont abide by our laws then they should have to deal with the federal government.All these business owners are all crooks too a business in tribal land is just as dirty as the politics. I say kick all the nasty no good people of territory and theyll have something real to gripe about having to pay the state tax and fed tax on everything. The Senecas are not above FEDERAL LAW>>>they think they are but arent the treaties were made with federals some people need to look in a dictionary for the definition of Sovereign..it doesnt say you can do what ever you want where ever you want and get away with it! You should hold your self to higher standard...another example on how money cant buy you everything...including a brain!!
How do you feel about that? Possibly doing away with the Import / Export Commission?
getoverit

Charlestown, MA

#32 Sep 28, 2012
Concerned wrote:
<quoted text>
Its called a business investment you moron! You keep making ROB look better and better!!
is that what you call stealing? A business investment? You really are a moron. Hahaha
getoverit

Charlestown, MA

#33 Sep 28, 2012
Their is no way anyone could possibly make Rob look better. Wow a two yr. Investigation? How long has rob porter been in office? Its all a buncha bull. If the feds have full authority then where does that leave seneca nation. Even tho we are not taxed by the state yet we are taxed by our own people so the state went after the cigarette manufacturer instead. Dont you think the state is controlling us if we cant have any of the cigarettes on the reservation? The nation took a major blow when that happend. But wasent it Sally Snow that helped develop import/export? Now your all bashing the person but sticking up for having this nation tax. Sally & Willy havent been paying this import/export tax because it was suppose to go back to the people and it isnt. So where is it? It sure is not being invested in anything. Our only schools are overpopulated and kids are put on a waiting list. Our only laundry mat is full of white people because they realize the money they save. Our only take out/fast food is so nasty that only the drunks love it. Our only nation gas business is not making a thing because we have 15employees in an enterprise building being paid top dollar to run into the ground. The list goes on.
hello

AOL

#34 Sep 28, 2012
People need to uphold laws but laws need to be fair.
Seneca Native

AOL

#35 Sep 28, 2012
no running water for 10 years, no help from casino

Since: Sep 12

AOL

#36 Sep 28, 2012
Who is Bob Porter working for? It's too bad he doesn't know about protecting the hand that feeds him. I'm ashamed to call him a distant cousin. Sombody should have let him run down carhood of the family ride get it lol Doesn't passing the bar exam commit you to uphold US law, what about Seneca law? Is there a conflict?
Indian

Irving, NY

#37 Oct 4, 2012
Enrolled wrote:
<quoted text> excuse me but maybe you need to check your info. Because every single pack of cigarettes in every smoke shop is stamped by the nation. Just because some mail order has dwindled and premiums are fizziling out means that more people are buying the generic and native made cigarettes. So what does that mean? You really are dumb? The reservation sells more in seneca,native,heron,and other brands and the nation is collecting tax money off of all cigarettes. Smarten up and crawl out from whatever rock your under. It would be a bit more then twenty bucks. Do some math.
Except for Willys store and Ron Lemon out in vandalia...they dont have stamps on them either.
Get over what

Irving, NY

#38 Oct 4, 2012
getoverit wrote:
<quoted text> is that what you call stealing? A business investment? You really are a moron. Hahaha
Wheres the proof that ROB has stolen anything? Barrys theft is documented.
Get over what

Irving, NY

#39 Oct 4, 2012
getoverit wrote:
Their is no way anyone could possibly make Rob look better. Wow a two yr. Investigation? How long has rob porter been in office? Its all a buncha bull. If the feds have full authority then where does that leave seneca nation. Even tho we are not taxed by the state yet we are taxed by our own people so the state went after the cigarette manufacturer instead. Dont you think the state is controlling us if we cant have any of the cigarettes on the reservation? The nation took a major blow when that happend. But wasent it Sally Snow that helped develop import/export? Now your all bashing the person but sticking up for having this nation tax. Sally & Willy havent been paying this import/export tax because it was suppose to go back to the people and it isnt. So where is it? It sure is not being invested in anything. Our only schools are overpopulated and kids are put on a waiting list. Our only laundry mat is full of white people because they realize the money they save. Our only take out/fast food is so nasty that only the drunks love it. Our only nation gas business is not making a thing because we have 15employees in an enterprise building being paid top dollar to run into the ground. The list goes on.
Oh really? Sally and Willy paid their fees for the people? I dont think so. They have community hand outs every now and again but notfor a long time. Since you know so much did you know that thye are the only ones causing all of this trouble? And no its not because the money wasnt going to the people because it was from ALL the business owners...not just willy and sally lol. My vote is RICHARD NEPHEW for PRESIDENT
ROB PORTER for TREASURER
Theres no proof Porter has stolen a penny
Theres documented proof on Barrys stealing hand along with the PIG sue Abrams' loansharking documents. You dont seem tohave any proof of your allegations. What "top dollar building" is beong run into the ground? Perhaps your eyes are better than mine.
pfft

Irving, NY

#40 Oct 4, 2012
glad he got caught. He doesn't respect his own people. He looks like a white man himself. I hope he does time. He is totally guilty.
I agree, Porter didn't have anything to do with it. ATF been on his scent for years.

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