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#1 Aug 7, 2011
WTF happened there? Seems to be some big details missing about what happened!!
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MYOB

Nitro, WV

#3 Aug 8, 2011
Don't go to a gunfight...without a gun. And don't go all vigilante on a black dude.

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#4 Aug 8, 2011
MYOB wrote:
Don't go to a gunfight...without a gun. And don't go all vigilante on a black dude.
Not just a black dude, a black dude built like John Coffee from The Green Mile. But I was just curious what the people saw or heard.
SWIM

United States

#5 Aug 8, 2011
Well I know the ppl that live next to em that are friends with the guy that was speeding. Basically they where one of the many rednecks in saint albans who charge vehicles that they think are speeding just to have an excuse to fight somebody. They have had problems before with the kid who was speeding and they beat him up about a year ago breaking his collar bone. That miller and that dodd guy called the cops on him then went down to his house to pick on a 21 year old kid that weighs about 150 lbs, they didnt know his mom was married to the john coffees twin brother who is every bit as nice a that guy on the green mile. I mean he is a hell of a nice guy, So after a few moments of shit talkin the one of the rednecks hit booker in the head with a pipe and booker grabbed his 9 and began to regulate. This should be a lesson to all these HUD rednecks who want to look like badasses and run up on people saying they want to protect there kids but really just want to be a redneck and show off. You know who you are let the police handle it and keep your redneck ass in your yard nobody cares if your tough or not your still fatassed looser redneck. Where booker screwed up was the multiple gun shots if you shoot somebody and they are disabled its not a good idea to cap them off as far as the law goes. Was it self defense? Yes it was definetly.. Did he go way overboard? Unfortunately yes he did they did not need to die he should have stopped when they where wounded.
billy adkins

Hyattsville, MD

#6 Aug 9, 2011
SWIM wrote:
Well I know the ppl that live next to em that are friends with the guy that was speeding. Basically they where one of the many rednecks in saint albans who charge vehicles that they think are speeding just to have an excuse to fight somebody. They have had problems before with the kid who was speeding and they beat him up about a year ago breaking his collar bone. That miller and that dodd guy called the cops on him then went down to his house to pick on a 21 year old kid that weighs about 150 lbs, they didnt know his mom was married to the john coffees twin brother who is every bit as nice a that guy on the green mile. I mean he is a hell of a nice guy, So after a few moments of shit talkin the one of the rednecks hit booker in the head with a pipe and booker grabbed his 9 and began to regulate. This should be a lesson to all these HUD rednecks who want to look like badasses and run up on people saying they want to protect there kids but really just want to be a redneck and show off. You know who you are let the police handle it and keep your redneck ass in your yard nobody cares if your tough or not your still fatassed looser redneck. Where booker screwed up was the multiple gun shots if you shoot somebody and they are disabled its not a good idea to cap them off as far as the law goes. Was it self defense? Yes it was definetly.. Did he go way overboard? Unfortunately yes he did they did not need to die he should have stopped when they where wounded.
They shouldn't came to fight. They had a police club and a hammer. I don't know the details about how many times he fired he's weapon, but sounds to me like self defense.
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MYOB

Nitro, WV

#8 Aug 9, 2011
It seems like sometimes good guys turn into bad guys when they get in a group. Myofb.
alicia

Waynesboro, VA

#9 Aug 9, 2011
you know what, whats wrong with trying to protect kids from those who act childesh.. if you didnt know joe or billy then shut up.. they were not rednecks and joe was one of the nicest people i know.. the guy who shot and killed them shouldnt have killed them.. thats a selfish way to handle a situation.. sure cops couldve taken care of it but if it happened once before and nothing was done then who can you count on.. regardless of what he claims he still killed them and that should never be an option (to shoot someone).. you cannot tell me you wouldnt confront someone if you were worried about your kids like that.. dont talk crap if you don't understand the whole situation..
commonsense

United States

#10 Aug 9, 2011
who lets their kids play in the street at 11:00 at night? just saying....
hmmm

Flower Mound, TX

#11 Aug 9, 2011
I have to agree with "commonsense" on this one... who lets their kids play in the street at 11:00 at night on a Saturday knowing that there are cars that speed up and down the road? I don't know the whole story and I don't know anyone involved. I do however know someone who knows one of the men killed and I know they are in denial about it being self defense, sounds to me like it was self defense that went a little over board. If you are just going to confront someone about speeding on a road why would you bring a police club and a hammer? I think this was just a bad situation that took a turn for the worst.....
john

United States

#12 Aug 9, 2011
As a person who has a ccw, I can tell you that you do have the right to use your firearm anyplace that you have a right to be. You do not have to be in your house. However, you do not have the right to use excessive force. Once you stop an attacker you should stop shooting. If you keep shooting after the attacker has been stopped then you are guilty of using excessive force and can be held up for murder charges. These charges can be reduced as the shooter can use the defense of being scared or unsure if the attacker was really stopped. It will depend on each case and situation.
I call also say that even if you are completely within your rights and shoot a person in self defense, the legal system will still drag you through hell and your case will go before the grand jury. In my case, the grand jury has taken their sweet ol time to get my case heard. This is a tortuous process. It is very difficult to move forward when you have possible criminal charges hanging over your head. Knowing you have done nothing wrong and have acted completely within your rights make it no less stressful.

Not sure of any facts in this case but, right or wrong, there is still hell to pay.
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2good2Bgone

Waynesboro, VA

#15 Aug 9, 2011
these 2 guys werent the trouble making rednecks lookin for a fight everyones making them out to b. bill was mentaly disabled. he had the mind of a child. for this boy to be shot down like a crimnal was so wrong. i hope this guy has to live his life knowing he murdered someone who had no chance or even the ability to defend his self. he is no better than these boys beating up the handicap elderly people. i under stand protecting yourself but no reason using a gun....
john

United States

#16 Aug 9, 2011
From what you say it sounds like murder. I take these thing with a grain of salt as in my own case the guy had friends and family who said I had planned to murder this guy. Even though I have had no criminal charges against me except for on speeding ticket in the last 21 years, the guy I shot had been arrest over 40 times in the last 10 years. There are still people who look at me and wonder because of lies told by his family and friends. I say let the law sort it out. If the guy got arrested then they know the score. Just as in my case, I was never arrest or brought in for questioning. The policemen do this stuff every day and they know the score.
If the deceased was a friend of yours, you have my sympathy.
Kay

Charleston, WV

#17 Aug 9, 2011
Tom how do you know what happened ? Were you there ? How do you know he swung first ? Just asking you seem to know a lot ab
tabs

Waynesboro, VA

#18 Aug 9, 2011
look guys this shit has gone far enough. so many lives have been destroyed already. tom it hurts i know. u n beth were soo close to joe. joe was a great guy. bill didnt deserve this. and all from charlies side lost a lot to. but yall have to take a second a see the pain we feel. we are buryin two people we love. please have the respect and stop the shit talking. no more blood needs to be shed. and joe n billy would agree. and if i piss ne one off oh well im sorry i just think too much happened already
tabs

Waynesboro, VA

#19 Aug 9, 2011
there was a 3 guy with joe and billy im sure he told the police what happened kay. and im sure he told tom
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SWIM

United States

#21 Aug 9, 2011
tomcox wrote:
and like i said before if youve got a problem with that im not hiding behind a computer look me up on facebook thomas cox saint albans wv. send me a message if you got a problem. we will see what we can do to resolve it :)
Again we have another case of starting trouble without knowing who or what you are dealing with this is the exact thing that lead to these lives being lost. So what do you gain out of this?
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u gonna get it

United States

#25 Aug 9, 2011
jess is my dude an charley is tha truth i got lawyer money anyone say self defense
u gonna get it

United States

#26 Aug 9, 2011
an im sure the guy didnt hit him with the ple AFTER he was shot lol self defense
ralph

Waldo, OH

#27 Aug 9, 2011
Two more thugs off the streets. Too bad.
ralph

Waldo, OH

#28 Aug 9, 2011
bethcox wrote:
thanks tabs and john. seriously i dont know who you other people think you are. MY BEST FUCKIN FRIEND IN THE ENTIRE WORLD IS DEAD. i know if things were switched around, and charlie and cameron were killed instead of joe and billy, things would be different. why you people gonna talk shit about the deceased for? thats so disrespectful. think about if your best friend was murdered and how you would feel. it wasnt self defense on charlie's part. thats a load of shit. he hit the other guy first with brass knuckles and put an indent in his neck and busted his ear drum. AND THEN the other guy hit charlie over the head with a police baton. i dont know where you guys thought that it was a pipe. anyways, hitting charlie over the head with the police baton pissed him off and he just started shooting.
those of you talking shit, really dont know what you're talking about. joe's sister was there with him whenever all this went on and she told me the whole story...no matter how much it hurt me. and i believe her over anyone.
for real though...quit talkin shit. let joe and billy rest in peace. i didnt know billy very well, but i knew joe like the back of my hand and he was an amazing person. neither of them deserved what happened to them.
and to the person that said something about kids playing in the street at 11 at night? no. they weren't. if you must know...the battle between joe and cameron had been going on for a couple of weeks. cameron kept speeding down the street and joe kept telling him to stop. everything just got blown out of proportion this time.
i dont care what anyone says, i know joe and i loved him so much.
You should be mourning then and not visiting web site get a life.

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