Border cops favor worker program

Border cops favor worker program

There are 180 comments on the The Tucson Citizen story from Apr 3, 2007, titled Border cops favor worker program. In it, The Tucson Citizen reports that:

CLAUDINE LoMONACO Tucson Citizen Top Border Patrol officials want the government to get illegal immigrants out of the desert and into some kind of guest worker program.

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Bleister

United States

#1 Apr 4, 2007
The only immigration reform we need is to enforce the existing laws. The only change in the law needed is to restore the criminal nature of illegal entry into the U.S., which was recently made a civil offense (first entry).

Reform needs to take place in the morals of our Congress and the President. Article IV, Part 4 of our Constitution require them to protect the individual states from foreign invasion and to punish those who violagte out laws and endanger our lives.

Our Government is in cahoots with organized crime and corruption due to the influence of the globalists. They profit from the outsourcing of our industries and the importation of the third world's masses of impoverished people who threaten their foreign investments and industries with a Communist takeover. They are too short-sighted to see that these third world imports come here for freebies, and once legalized, will vote in socialism and eventually communism.
fastcat

Phoenix, AZ

#2 Apr 8, 2007
Bleister wrote:
The only immigration reform we need is to enforce the existing laws. The only change in the law needed is to restore the criminal nature of illegal entry into the U.S., which was recently made a civil offense (first entry).
Reform needs to take place in the morals of our Congress and the President. Article IV, Part 4 of our Constitution require them to protect the individual states from foreign invasion and to punish those who violagte out laws and endanger our lives.
Our Government is in cahoots with organized crime and corruption due to the influence of the globalists. They profit from the outsourcing of our industries and the importation of the third world's masses of impoverished people who threaten their foreign investments and industries with a Communist takeover. They are too short-sighted to see that these third world imports come here for freebies, and once legalized, will vote in socialism and eventually communism.
Oh, right. I forgot about our 'stellar' social services. You know, the ones where you pay 10 times the price for the same drugs they can get at home. Maybe you mean the health insurance premiums we get the privilege of paying while in Mexico you just go to the doctor and pay for the services at cost. I know most people would leave their wives, husbands, children, basically their complete support system and risk death crossing a vast desert, on the off chance they get sick.
Funny thing is, I have never seen a Mexican with a 'will work for food' sign? I've only seen 'Americans' holding signs looking for 'freebies' as you put it. Yeah, you're right. All of those communists risk everything they have (including their very lives) to come here and work, truly a communist ideal! By the way, in which century do you live in?
Our government is in cahoots, in cahoots with 'corporate america' to provide them with the highest possible profit margins with no regard to the greater good of the society. If these people were registered and paid an honest wage, wages for the rest of us would not be as depressed as they are now. We would again have a competitive market on wages and jobs.
Neese

United States

#4 Apr 8, 2007
unlikely anne wrote:
Anyone with a mouthfull of tomato product has no right to speak against immigration, unless you want to get out there and pick your own tomatoes for less than minimum wage.
If americans are unwilling to work for a living then workers have to come from other places. it is wrong to make them come here to do the work we think we are too good for without any rights or protections. A legal work program is the only answer.
All across this country the immigration issue is impowering racists to get dioreah of the mouth. Its only aparent that our racist inbred majority has reached terminal retardation and needs to be replaced by people with a better work ethic.
If that is your argument, then I guess all of the professional jobs in Mexico should only go to Americans. "Jobs Mexicans don't want to do".
Neese

United States

#6 Apr 9, 2007
unlikely anne wrote:
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Well, be sure you learn Spanish before you apply for those jobs. You'd hate to be a hypocrite wouldnt you?.
Once I get over there, I'll do whatever I want. It will be a free for all. What is good here, is good there, right?
Neese

United States

#8 Apr 9, 2007
unlikely anne wrote:
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yep, and a bunch of mexicans in striped blankets will burn a cactus in your yard one night and then drag you behind their burro for five or six miles till nothing is left of you but fragments.
Same here as there, eh?
You have a very dark mind, or an odd choice of friends. Either way, you scare me.
Colleen

Denver, CO

#9 Apr 9, 2007
unlikely anne wrote:
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Well, be sure you learn Spanish before you apply for those jobs. You'd hate to be a hypocrite wouldnt you?.
Oh boo hoo poor little IMMIGRANTS...I am part MEXICAN and I am embarrased to admit it! I understand the whole work for cheap thing but they are totally taking advantage of the US! Why should they get better health care and dental and their little immigrant children get better educations than our own. I wish we could put up a wall like they did in Berlin and keep it up! If you don't have the proper paperwork to be here then stay out!!!!
Those border patrol agents were doing their job and deserve to be freed!!!!
Neese

United States

#10 Apr 9, 2007
Colleen wrote:
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Oh boo hoo poor little IMMIGRANTS...I am part MEXICAN and I am embarrased to admit it! I understand the whole work for cheap thing but they are totally taking advantage of the US! Why should they get better health care and dental and their little immigrant children get better educations than our own. I wish we could put up a wall like they did in Berlin and keep it up! If you don't have the proper paperwork to be here then stay out!!!!
Those border patrol agents were doing their job and deserve to be freed!!!!
Excellent point!!! Why are we locking up innocent Border Patrol agents when we let drug runners back out on the street? Isn't anyone else angry that the drug runner turned around, and SUED us? Wasn't it enough that we let him loose? And what about the three innocent men, missing out the the decent lives that they have EARNED? What about their families? I have never been ashamed to be an American until now, when we can lock up good men and cater to evil. Shame on you President Bush!! May you rot in hell.
John

Denver, CO

#11 Apr 10, 2007
Neese wrote:
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Excellent point!!! Why are we locking up innocent Border Patrol agents when we let drug runners back out on the street? Isn't anyone else angry that the drug runner turned around, and SUED us? Wasn't it enough that we let him loose? And what about the three innocent men, missing out the the decent lives that they have EARNED? What about their families? I have never been ashamed to be an American until now, when we can lock up good men and cater to evil. Shame on you President Bush!! May you rot in hell.
I applaud you!

“God's Wisdom is in the Cross”

Since: Apr 07

New Jerusalem

#12 Apr 26, 2007
This article is a blatant piece of LYING PROPAGANDA!

Read what the Border Patrol Officrs Union just did to their own Chief Officer Aguilar!
They are PISSED!

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story...

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/...

Among their reasons for repudiating Aguilar they state "Among other clauses, the resolution accuses the chief of "shamelessly promoting amnesty and a greatly expanded guest-worker program as key elements of the solution to the illegal immigration crisis" despite intense opposition from front-line agents"
Neese

Wheaton, IL

#13 Apr 26, 2007
CrossWise wrote:
This article is a blatant piece of LYING PROPAGANDA!
Read what the Border Patrol Officrs Union just did to their own Chief Officer Aguilar!
They are PISSED!
http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story...
http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/...
Among their reasons for repudiating Aguilar they state "Among other clauses, the resolution accuses the chief of "shamelessly promoting amnesty and a greatly expanded guest-worker program as key elements of the solution to the illegal immigration crisis" despite intense opposition from front-line agents"
Why are we hiring MEXICAN Americans for border jobs? That is a conflict of interest.

“God's Wisdom is in the Cross”

Since: Apr 07

New Jerusalem

#14 Apr 26, 2007
Neese wrote:
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Why are we hiring MEXICAN Americans for border jobs? That is a conflict of interest.
Amen! And that Spokeshole Riso is another one!
S Barnes

Monterey Park, CA

#15 Apr 26, 2007
Bleister wrote:
The only immigration reform we need is to enforce the existing laws. The only change in the law needed is to restore the criminal nature of illegal entry into the U.S., which was recently made a civil offense (first entry).
Reform needs to take place in the morals of our Congress and the President. Article IV, Part 4 of our Constitution require them to protect the individual states from foreign invasion and to punish those who violagte out laws and endanger our lives.
Our Government is in cahoots with organized crime and corruption due to the influence of the globalists. They profit from the outsourcing of our industries and the importation of the third world's masses of impoverished people who threaten their foreign investments and industries with a Communist takeover. They are too short-sighted to see that these third world imports come here for freebies, and once legalized, will vote in socialism and eventually communism.
Too bad that the rank in file of the border patrol totally dsagree with Aguilar. Aguilar is a Bushbot!!!
True American

United States

#16 Apr 30, 2007
What our Country needs is a Person who is like General president Eisenhower in office as President.

Remember What Eisenhower did when it came to this TYPE OF SISTUATION.

He called it operation wetback.
He had the ILLEGALS rounded up & DEPORTED THEM BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY WITH THEIR ANCHOR BABIES.
Neese

United States

#17 Apr 30, 2007
CrossWise wrote:
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Amen! And that Spokeshole Riso is another one!
LOL!
Cindy-Green Valley AZ

Columbus, OH

#19 May 10, 2007
Rebel wrote:
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...ILLEGAL IS STILL ILLEGAL! It is still a crime to come here without doing it the proper way and having your documents in order. We cannot forget that every illegal alien is a criminal and must not be rewarded for their crime. Period. Citizens and legal immigrants don't get rewarded -- why should illegal aliens?
HEAR! HEAR! However the EMPLOYERS are MOSTLY at fault. As a consumer, do you buy cheapest or American-made? That makes all of us ALSO at fault. A guest work-program that cracks down on employers who hire illegal workers.(Perhaps they'd have to pay into that the workers could cash in when they return home or use for medical services here.) And, yes we'd pay more for lettuce. For now, they have no reason to go home. The Mexican gov't is happy to be rid of citizens exploited by their corrupt system. What do they have to go back to? Have any of you ever MET an illegal or talked to them about their lives? If you come across someone walking in the desert, would you offer your bottle of water or ask if they were legal and shoot them?? Have you all forgotten that these are actual PEOPLE?? LOOK AROUND! When you're in public, WHOSE children behave badly? What happened to American christianity, family values, morality, personal responsibility and caring for your fellow man? I never thought I'd live to see the end of the world, but it's coming at us like a freight train in a tunnel. Congress needs to clean up it's own house before it can clean up other's...start with FIRING the murders, thieves and philanderers who run our country. You know who they are. A wall isn't going to work. It will just be something else we need to support and innefectively try to fix. If you don't like it in the USA, move to Mexico and TRY to become a citizen, and as a foreign born person, you will never be allowed to vote, hold office, own beach front property, etc. ILLEGAL is still ILLEGAL. And how about cleaning up our "stellar" social system??? But that's a whole different argument. REFORM, not a wall!
paysan

Vinton, VA

#20 May 10, 2007
<<<Oh boo hoo poor little IMMIGRANTS...I am part MEXICAN and I am embarrased to admit it! I understand the whole work for cheap thing but they are totally taking advantage of the US! Why should they get better health care and dental and their little immigrant children get better educations than our own. I wish we could put up a wall like they did in Berlin and keep it up! If you don't have the proper paperwork to be here then stay out!!!!>>>

You pathetic self-hating bastard. The gringos sure did a number on your head. Mexican immigrants do all the hard work and you resent them if their kid gets to see a doctor. What inhuman scum you are.

You fit right in with the anti-immigrant racists. Do you look "white". I bet you have blue contact lenses and lots of bleach in your hair. Don't get into the sun! You'll turn dark fast and then your white friends will know you're "not quite right"!

See a shrink.
paysan

Vinton, VA

#21 May 10, 2007
<<<Why are we hiring MEXICAN Americans for border jobs? That is a conflict of interest. >>>
You advocate discrimination in hiring by ethnicity? That is illegal.
They have probably found that even in the Border Patrol the Mexicans work harder than the lazy-assed spoiled white and black gringos! HAAAAAAAAAA! You're being out-competed in every field!
Neese

United States

#22 May 10, 2007
Cindy-Green Valley AZ wrote:
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HEAR! HEAR! However the EMPLOYERS are MOSTLY at fault. As a consumer, do you buy cheapest or American-made? That makes all of us ALSO at fault. A guest work-program that cracks down on employers who hire illegal workers.(Perhaps they'd have to pay into that the workers could cash in when they return home or use for medical services here.) And, yes we'd pay more for lettuce. For now, they have no reason to go home. The Mexican gov't is happy to be rid of citizens exploited by their corrupt system. What do they have to go back to? Have any of you ever MET an illegal or talked to them about their lives? If you come across someone walking in the desert, would you offer your bottle of water or ask if they were legal and shoot them?? Have you all forgotten that these are actual PEOPLE?? LOOK AROUND! When you're in public, WHOSE children behave badly? What happened to American christianity, family values, morality, personal responsibility and caring for your fellow man? I never thought I'd live to see the end of the world, but it's coming at us like a freight train in a tunnel. Congress needs to clean up it's own house before it can clean up other's...start with FIRING the murders, thieves and philanderers who run our country. You know who they are. A wall isn't going to work. It will just be something else we need to support and innefectively try to fix. If you don't like it in the USA, move to Mexico and TRY to become a citizen, and as a foreign born person, you will never be allowed to vote, hold office, own beach front property, etc. ILLEGAL is still ILLEGAL. And how about cleaning up our "stellar" social system??? But that's a whole different argument. REFORM, not a wall!
Isn't it funny how the propaganda puts a spin on American accountability? MEXICO is responsible for Mexicans, not the United States. Besides that, everyone is responsible for themselves. That means that MEXICANS are responsible for THEMSELVES.(If I rob your house tomorrow. Is it my fault, or yours? Maybe I have a good reason for wanting your stuff, but it still does not make it right.)

Stop giving them a reason to invade our country. We have a long line of people who applied LEGALLY. THOSE people should get top priority, not criminals who break our laws. Illegal immigration costs the taxpayer millions of dollars a year, if not more. So much so, that hospitals close because they cannot recover the costs. Some areas are so dangerous due to illegal immigration that people cannot get utilities at their house. Stop listening to the special interest groups and find out the facts. I think you will be shocked at how illegal immigration adversley affects our society.

Our border needs to be militarized to stop these people before they get here. Did the price of lettuce go down when illegals worked the fields. No, it didn't. This scare about how much things will cost is a load of crap. Not only that, but these people are draining our welfare system. Wouldn't it be nice to make $40,000 under the table, then get freebies on top of it? Did you ever think to yourself: how can these people who are so down and out afford a gas guzzling SUV? How can they afford to pay a coyote a couple thousand dollars, to get to the US, and then do it all over again a week or so later? These people are not as poor as you might think. They horde their money at home, and oftentimes are doing much better than you or I. Are most Mexicans anorexic? Are they starving to death? NO...they aren't. Africans are starving to death. There is a difference.
Neese

United States

#23 May 10, 2007
paysan wrote:
<<<Oh boo hoo poor little IMMIGRANTS...I am part MEXICAN and I am embarrased to admit it! I understand the whole work for cheap thing but they are totally taking advantage of the US! Why should they get better health care and dental and their little immigrant children get better educations than our own. I wish we could put up a wall like they did in Berlin and keep it up! If you don't have the proper paperwork to be here then stay out!!!!>>>
You pathetic self-hating bastard. The gringos sure did a number on your head. Mexican immigrants do all the hard work and you resent them if their kid gets to see a doctor. What inhuman scum you are.
You fit right in with the anti-immigrant racists. Do you look "white". I bet you have blue contact lenses and lots of bleach in your hair. Don't get into the sun! You'll turn dark fast and then your white friends will know you're "not quite right"!
See a shrink.
If Mexicans were such hard working group of people, why is Mexico an armpit? Shouldn't it be a bustling wealth of industry? Funny how Mexicans can come to a country that is already successful and established, and take full credit for it, when their home country is so vile, that there is a mass exodus.

Actions speak louder than words, and until Mexico looks anything like the US, I'd say the illegals should keep their thoughts to themselves.
Neese

United States

#24 May 10, 2007
paysan wrote:
<<<Why are we hiring MEXICAN Americans for border jobs? That is a conflict of interest. >>>
You advocate discrimination in hiring by ethnicity? That is illegal.
They have probably found that even in the Border Patrol the Mexicans work harder than the lazy-assed spoiled white and black gringos! HAAAAAAAAAA! You're being out-competed in every field!
The thing is that black and white people work SMARTER than Mexicans, that is why we don't have to work harder. Mexicans only get jobs because we feel sorry for them. Isn't it sad that they get jobs because of pity? I would never want anyone to pity me...it is pathetic.

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