Supreme Court to review ruling that strip search for drugs viol...

The Supreme Court agreed Friday to decide whether a 13-year-old girl's constitutional rights were violated when school officials strip-searched her for a prescription-strength pain reliever. Full Story
John

Dekalb, IL

#1 Jan 16, 2009
There is nothing wrong with this. We need random searches and drug testing of anyone, anywhere, anytime - for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone caught with drugs should be immediately executed.

This will win the war on drugs and put a stop to gang violence both. No one has any right to use drugs in a Christian society, anyway, so there's no reason for any liberal crying over it. You use drugs - you LOSE.
E E E

Westmont, IL

#2 Jan 16, 2009
John wrote:
There is nothing wrong with this. We need random searches and drug testing of anyone, anywhere, anytime - for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone caught with drugs should be immediately executed.
This will win the war on drugs and put a stop to gang violence both. No one has any right to use drugs in a Christian society, anyway, so there's no reason for any liberal crying over it. You use drugs - you LOSE.
This isn't a case of a simple "random search"

Did you not read the article?

This girl was accused (baselessly) by another student and when her belongings failed to show evidence of illicit materials, the school STRIP SEARCHED A 13YO GIRL.

She was denied due-process and traumatized.

But I have little doubt that the Supreme Court will fail this girl. Why should she be any different than the rest of us?

No one else's basic civil liberties seem to matter. Why should hers?
John

Dekalb, IL

#3 Jan 17, 2009
E E E wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't a case of a simple "random search"
Did you not read the article?
This girl was accused (baselessly) by another student and when her belongings failed to show evidence of illicit materials, the school STRIP SEARCHED A 13YO GIRL.
She was denied due-process and traumatized.
But I have little doubt that the Supreme Court will fail this girl. Why should she be any different than the rest of us?
No one else's basic civil liberties seem to matter. Why should hers?
With drug use there ARE NO LIBERTIES. No one has any rights to use drugs in a Christian society. Zero. Nowhere will you find language in our Constitution or in the Bibile that gives any rights to drug users - because there are NONE!

Yes, you can be searched anytime, anywhere, for any reason or no reason at all. Only this will stop drug users and bring gangs to their knees.

If you don't use drugs, then you have nothing to fear. The fact you are complaining so much kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
mike

United States

#4 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
There is nothing wrong with this. We need random searches and drug testing of anyone, anywhere, anytime - for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone caught with drugs should be immediately executed.
This will win the war on drugs and put a stop to gang violence both. No one has any right to use drugs in a Christian society, anyway, so there's no reason for any liberal crying over it. You use drugs - you LOSE.
John,
These kinds of statements are what happens when YOU go off your medication.
According to you the fact that the girl did not have any drugs doesn't seem to matter.
Be a good boy and take your pills which are(gasp) drugs
mike

United States

#5 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
<quoted text>
With drug use there ARE NO LIBERTIES. No one has any rights to use drugs in a Christian society. Zero. Nowhere will you find language in our Constitution or in the Bibile that gives any rights to drug users - because there are NONE!
Yes, you can be searched anytime, anywhere, for any reason or no reason at all. Only this will stop drug users and bring gangs to their knees.
If you don't use drugs, then you have nothing to fear. The fact you are complaining so much kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
Oh and by the way, this isn't a "Christian society"
We have Christians and Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and I am sure religions I don't know the names of.
That pretty well invalistea your side.
John

Dekalb, IL

#6 Jan 17, 2009
mike wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh and by the way, this isn't a "Christian society"
We have Christians and Jews and Muslims and Hindus and Buddhists and I am sure religions I don't know the names of.
That pretty well invalistea your side.
America was founded by Christians and has been a a Christian society since day one. Our President pleas for God's help as part of the inauguration. What part of In God We Trust don't you understand?

Perhaps others live here, but we ARE a Christian society. Druggies have no place.
John

Dekalb, IL

#7 Jan 17, 2009
mike wrote:
<quoted text>
John,
These kinds of statements are what happens when YOU go off your medication.
According to you the fact that the girl did not have any drugs doesn't seem to matter.
Be a good boy and take your pills which are(gasp) drugs
Maybe she didn't. That's the purpose of a search - to see if she did have them. She was found innocent, which is fine. Good for her, I am glad.

The point is no law was broken. We need to have these kind of searches of EVERYONE, all ages, at anytime, anywhere, for any reason or no reason. We need random drug testing too. We have the technology to do it quickly and cheaply now, we need to use it and get the drugs and gangs out of our society.

“Merry Holidays!”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#8 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
There is nothing wrong with this. We need random searches and drug testing of anyone, anywhere, anytime - for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone caught with drugs should be immediately executed.
This will win the war on drugs and put a stop to gang violence both. No one has any right to use drugs in a Christian society, anyway, so there's no reason for any liberal crying over it. You use drugs - you LOSE.
I think we all should gather to your house, strip search you and your family then search the house and medicine cabinet for Advil or Motrin. Given the drugs they were searching for (the equilvancy of two Advils), I think any cough medicines, asprins, nicotine products, alcohol, etc. should be included and then confiscated. They are drugs and we need to rid society of them. You have children and a wife? Line them up as well and we'll strip search them.

Where do you live? As with any law there is due process -- we should never turn our backs on that. I don't know about you, but I would like to regain some of our civil liberties we seem to have lost the last eight years -- all in the guise of security.

Are you president of the tin foil hat club or what?
E E E

Westmont, IL

#9 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
<quoted text>
With drug use there ARE NO LIBERTIES. No one has any rights to use drugs in a Christian society. Zero. Nowhere will you find language in our Constitution or in the Bibile that gives any rights to drug users - because there are NONE!
Yes, you can be searched anytime, anywhere, for any reason or no reason at all. Only this will stop drug users and bring gangs to their knees.
If you don't use drugs, then you have nothing to fear. The fact you are complaining so much kind of sums it up, doesn't it?
Except that there was no reason to think that this girl was using or harboring drugs.

This girl is not a drug user nor was there a valid reason to suspect that she was.

And, newsflash: we are NOT a "Christian" society.

“An Apple a day”

Since: Jun 08

nil carborundum illegitemi

#10 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
<quoted text>
America was founded by Christians and has been a a Christian society since day one. Our President pleas for God's help as part of the inauguration. What part of In God We Trust don't you understand?
Perhaps others live here, but we ARE a Christian society. Druggies have no place.
Actually John the founders of this nation were Deists not Christians.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Were_all_of_the_fou...

“An Apple a day”

Since: Jun 08

nil carborundum illegitemi

#11 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe she didn't. That's the purpose of a search - to see if she did have them. She was found innocent, which is fine. Good for her, I am glad.
The point is no law was broken. We need to have these kind of searches of EVERYONE, all ages, at anytime, anywhere, for any reason or no reason. We need random drug testing too. We have the technology to do it quickly and cheaply now, we need to use it and get the drugs and gangs out of our society.
Have you read George Orwell's "1984"? If you haven't, you might find it interesting as you are advocating many of those totalitarian techniques.

“An Apple a day”

Since: Jun 08

nil carborundum illegitemi

#12 Jan 17, 2009
Terri at home wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you president of the tin foil hat club or what?
Hee hee Terri. I'm sorry but that honor has been reserved for Miss Sandy.

“An Apple a day”

Since: Jun 08

nil carborundum illegitemi

#13 Jan 17, 2009
John wrote:
There is nothing wrong with this. We need random searches and drug testing of anyone, anywhere, anytime - for any reason or no reason at all. Anyone caught with drugs should be immediately executed.
This will win the war on drugs and put a stop to gang violence both. No one has any right to use drugs in a Christian society, anyway, so there's no reason for any liberal crying over it. You use drugs - you LOSE.
Actually, John, shouldn't we determine WHY people use drugs so that we can deal with the problem at its origin.

The "real battle our country fights is not against drugs per se but limbic pain -- isolation, sorrow, bitterness, loneliness, anxiety and despair." - A General Theory of Love

“Merry Holidays!”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#14 Jan 17, 2009
angelique770 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, John, shouldn't we determine WHY people use drugs so that we can deal with the problem at its origin.
The "real battle our country fights is not against drugs per se but limbic pain -- isolation, sorrow, bitterness, loneliness, anxiety and despair." - A General Theory of Love
Okay, maybe Vice President.

I don't think he'll understand your post or what you are saying. I hope I am wrong because naturally you are right.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#15 Jan 17, 2009
E E E wrote:
<quoted text>
This isn't a case of a simple "random search"
Did you not read the article?
This girl was accused (baselessly) by another student and when her belongings failed to show evidence of illicit materials, the school STRIP SEARCHED A 13YO GIRL.
She was denied due-process and traumatized.
But I have little doubt that the Supreme Court will fail this girl. Why should she be any different than the rest of us?
No one else's basic civil liberties seem to matter. Why should hers?
You think someone who calls for the death of a 12 year old by the state is going to read or has the powers of reason? Casting pearls before swine.

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#16 Jan 17, 2009
Why are they taking this case? The ninth already ruled in favor of the girl. Is it so there will be no misunderstanding in parts of the country ruled by other courts? Or did the school appeal?

BTW she's 13 now but was 12 at the time of the search.

The ACLU are involved so expect much drama
E E E

Westmont, IL

#17 Jan 17, 2009
mike_lee wrote:
Why are they taking this case? The ninth already ruled in favor of the girl. Is it so there will be no misunderstanding in parts of the country ruled by other courts? Or did the school appeal?
BTW she's 13 now but was 12 at the time of the search.
The ACLU are involved so expect much drama
The school district is appealling.

CNN has better coverage (Shocker!)

"...In its appeal to the high court, the school district said requiring a legal standard of 'probable cause' to conduct student searches would cast a 'roadblock to the kind of swift and effective response that is too often needed to protect the very safety of students, particularly from the threats posed by drugs and weapons.'"

Well... DUH! Of COURSE "probable cause" casts a "roadblock" to unconstitutional searches. THAT'S THE POINT!

What scares me most is that these people are educators yet they seem wholly uneducated on (or wholly unconcerned with) the basic constitutional rights of their students.

Also, everything I've read says the girl was 13 in 2003 when the incident occurred.

“Killah89107”

Since: Apr 08

Las Vegas, Nevada

#18 Jan 17, 2009
Read the wiki article, children.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safford Middle School

“Merry Holidays!”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#19 Jan 17, 2009
Asgarnieu wrote:
Read the wiki article, children.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safford Middle School
Link didn't work but I did a search. Here's the link from the page. See if it'll do it now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safford_Middle_S...

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