School strip-search case reaches justices this week

When Savana Redding, now 19, talks of what happened to her in 8th grade, it is clear the painful memories linger. Full Story
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retired teacher

United States

#44 Apr 20, 2009
E_E_E wrote:
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Oh please.
Sarcasm is tricky enough to catch when you know the person who is delivering it.
When you don't, and there is no tonal reference or body language (like in this medium) it is harder to spot.
Sarcasm and satire are two different things.

Since: Jan 09

Tinley Park, IL

#45 Apr 20, 2009
retired teacher wrote:
<quoted text>Sarcasm and satire are two different things.
I agree, but it is still difficult to gauge tone in this medium.

Especially since there ARE people on these boards with some pretty whacked out opinions.

It really would not surprise me to see someone make a similar post in all earnestness.

“Merry Holidays!”

Since: Mar 08

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#46 Apr 20, 2009
retired teacher wrote:
<quoted text>Sarcasm and satire are two different things.
Well I think it's very telling that it seemed as if some post could possibly be a serious post, don't you?
Jason Lee

Ottawa, IL

#47 Apr 20, 2009
Andie J wrote:
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A respectful strip search? That's an oxymoron if I ever heard one.
All I meant by "RESPECTFULLY" is that the people who administer the strip search should NOT make any derogatory comments and should make sure that the search is NOT done in the view of peers and otherwise NOT be done in a way that would degrade the subject of the strip search.

I should think that everyone would agree with limitations like that.

“Merry Holidays!”

Since: Mar 08

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#48 Apr 20, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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All I meant by "RESPECTFULLY" is that the people who administer the strip search should NOT make any derogatory comments and should make sure that the search is NOT done in the view of peers and otherwise NOT be done in a way that would degrade the subject of the strip search.
I should think that everyone would agree with limitations like that.
I wouldn't agree to that.

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#49 Apr 20, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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All I meant by "RESPECTFULLY" is that the people who administer the strip search should NOT make any derogatory comments and should make sure that the search is NOT done in the view of peers and otherwise NOT be done in a way that would degrade the subject of the strip search.
I should think that everyone would agree with limitations like that.
So, having a young girl pull her panties off to the side & shake them to dislodge a nonexistant pill is showing respect? Done without her parents knowledge or consent? What exactly would make it disrespectful in your eyes? Commenting on her development? Or worse, if that's even possible? Having a young girl stand in a room with a stranger, wearing nothing but her underwear is the height of disrespect. Also, humiliation. And all because of a rumor.

“Snow days!”

Since: Nov 08

A winter wonderland

#50 Apr 20, 2009
I forgot to add- a strip search on a child is never acceptable. Limitations notwithstanding. There is no amount of respect that can be shown that would make it OK in any way, shape or form.
Raptor

North Chicago, IL

#51 Apr 20, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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All I meant by "RESPECTFULLY" is that the people who administer the strip search should NOT make any derogatory comments and should make sure that the search is NOT done in the view of peers and otherwise NOT be done in a way that would degrade the subject of the strip search.
I should think that everyone would agree with limitations like that.
No way. Schools don't have a right to strip search students.

Since: Jan 09

Tinley Park, IL

#52 Apr 20, 2009
Jason Lee wrote:
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All I meant by "RESPECTFULLY" is that the people who administer the strip search should NOT make any derogatory comments and should make sure that the search is NOT done in the view of peers and otherwise NOT be done in a way that would degrade the subject of the strip search.
I should think that everyone would agree with limitations like that.
I agree that those limitations should be in place, but I (and others here) believe that there is NO SUCH THING as a "respectful" strip search when a child is involved.

At the very least, her parents should have to give written consent for anything more invasive than being asked to turn out her pockets.
Angry and Disturbed

Westminster, CO

#54 Apr 23, 2009
Whoever thinks that a school should have the right to violate students in this manner obviously has issues(especially if you are a school official yourself). This crosses the line. It humiliates a CHILD, allows children to tell lies about each other for the sake of "getting even",and the parents were not even informed or contacted. The school system in America is rapidly descending into hell, and some people don't seem to care.
This school blatantly took advantage of a child that was not able to defend herself. Schools rave about promoting self esteem, confidence, and encourage students to trust them. In spite of this these "schools" are the ones that annihilate childrens self-esteem, take advantage of their trust, and ultimately destroy character.
These type of actions are a perversion of not only the constitution, but many other laws as well. If this had not happened on school grounds, whoever initiated and conducted the search would be in jail for sexually violating a minor. It's almost like sending the message that child molestation and rape is OK, as long as it happens on school grounds, and is done by school officials.
Humiliating children will only provoke them to commit more serious offenses. The humiliation and fear that these children develope as a result of being violated and taken advantage of by school officials (the people society trust with children)will develope into hatred and anger that could have violent consequences.
That being said the question really is "Should schools be allowed to form opinions on a student based on what a bitter classmate says" or "Should schools be allowed to destroy one childs self esteem, and ability to trust, to violate them in a manner a child predator would, just to "protect health of students?". The sad thing about this is the supreme court will probably rule in favor of these corrupt schools, because the constitution no longer means anything to these people. Even worse is that while on school grounds children are commodities used for the districts personal gain of funds, and because they are minors, do not have constitutinal rights. This is disturbing and wrong, and my heart goes out to this poor girl.
Hazel

Claremont, CA

#55 Apr 23, 2009
I can't believe you guys couldn't tell "School Principal" was kidding. I mean, the making-women-having-an-abortio n bit? Come on. Absolutely brilliant.
Marsha

United States

#56 Apr 24, 2009
Hazel wrote:
I can't believe you guys couldn't tell "School Principal" was kidding. I mean, the making-women-having-an-abortio n bit? Come on. Absolutely brilliant.
No. Absolutely dumb is what it was.

Anyone with extensive experience posting on the 'Net should be able to explain why sarcasm and satire lose their bite and impact in this medium, and really have no place here.
Rick

Englewood, CO

#57 Apr 25, 2009
Funny, how we our so concerned about abusing terrorist via harsh interregation methods(waterboarding),yet, the school ,without any thought, had a little girl striped search! Her parents were not notified. She was presumed guilty without any investigation. Strip searches are done to hardend convicts in prison...not little girls in school. This is sick! It's the kind of stuff that was done in Russia during Stalin and/or Hitler in Germany!!!!
The argument about "protecting" the students from guns and or heroin, crack,meth etc is laughable. If you really think a student has these drugs and or a weapon(s), you call the police to handle it. Do you really think that anyone with a gun would allow themseleves to be stripped search??? Do you think the Columbine killers would have allowed themselves to be strip-searched. I hope the supreme court rules against the school and the Redding family can collect their lawsuit money from the school and principle Wilson!!!!

Since: Mar 07

Columbus-

#58 Apr 25, 2009
Rick wrote:
I hope the supreme court rules against the school and the Redding family can collect their lawsuit money from the school and principle Wilson!!!!
I agree...

Should the SC rule otherwise, we can expect to see more kids retaliating.

“Killah89107”

Since: Apr 08

Las Vegas, Nevada

#59 Apr 27, 2009
Hazel wrote:
I can't believe you guys couldn't tell "School Principal" was kidding. I mean, the making-women-having-an-abortio n bit? Come on. Absolutely brilliant.
With all the retards on the internet it's hard not to believe something like that. I will admit, we should have paid more attention to the blatant idiocy, but we're just human...

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