Beaver Wood defends permit Attorney: No need for Act 250; Act 248 covers everything we need

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Attorneys for a Maine developer seeking to build a biomass plant and integrated wood pellet manufacturing facility at the former Green Mountain Race Track filed statements late Monday in response to comments calling for the project to go through two sets of major permits.

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vermont conservative

Williamstown, MA

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Feb 16, 2011
 
What is Beaverwood afraid of?
GRNMTNBOY

Hayfield, MN

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Feb 16, 2011
 
I believe they'll end up having to go through ACT 248 for the electric generating plant AND ACT 250 for the pellet plant. But going through one is very expensive, let alone two. And a lot of it is just a duplication of efforts. ACT 248 is far stricter than Act 250.
harvey carter

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Feb 16, 2011
 
The end result of having to file separate permits could mean that Beaverwood will abandon the pellet facility altogether. We could end up with a strictly electric plant. Fewer jobs, and less efficient, backfiring on the anti/nimby agenda.
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Bennington, VT

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Feb 16, 2011
 
we could end up with no biomass and thats the wish of many pownal residents. results of the upcoming elections will be a good indication of what pownal residents really want.
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Feb 16, 2011
 
I know something that is going to make the, as you would call them, anti nimbys, happy.

Just in / discovered.
Yo Yo

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Feb 17, 2011
 
GrnMtnBoy
ACT 248 does not look at ALL of the criteria that ACT 250 does and Act 248 only takes are cursory look at the criteria. The pubic service board can isue a permit with conditions but has no power to enforce the condition where Act 250 conditions can and are enforced.

It should come as no suprise that this developer will use threats to scare people into supporting them. I don't know of a developer that wants to go through Act 250 review when they know that if they violate their permit they will be held accountable.

Accountability is what Beaver Wood is very affraid of. They have a track record of violating permit conditions in other states where they have or had facilities. They believe that if they can keep there application under Act 248 only then they can violate any permit they have without accountability for enforcement action against them.

Act 250 must review this application and hold Beaver Wood accountable for their actions.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
Agreed, good post, Yo Yo.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
Yo Yo wrote:
GrnMtnBoy
ACT 248 does not look at ALL of the criteria that ACT 250 does and Act 248 only takes are cursory look at the criteria. The pubic service board can isue a permit with conditions but has no power to enforce the condition where Act 250 conditions can and are enforced.
It should come as no suprise that this developer will use threats to scare people into supporting them. I don't know of a developer that wants to go through Act 250 review when they know that if they violate their permit they will be held accountable.
Accountability is what Beaver Wood is very affraid of. They have a track record of violating permit conditions in other states where they have or had facilities. They believe that if they can keep there application under Act 248 only then they can violate any permit they have without accountability for enforcement action against them.
Act 250 must review this application and hold Beaver Wood accountable for their actions.
I'm researching your comment. However, I did have something to do with a project under Act 248. 1) the State of VT did make inspections. 2) One of the conditions involved wood chips. The purchaser of those chips wanted the permit number before the chips could be offloaded. "The State checks up on this you know".

So I'll do some research and quote informational sites.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
There will be more but here's some info:
(a)(1) No company, as defined in section 201 of this title, may:

(b) Before the public service board issues a certificate of public good as required under subsection (a) of this section, it shall find that the purchase, investment or construction:

(1) with respect to an in-state facility, will not unduly interfere with the orderly development of the region with due consideration having been given to the recommendations of the municipal and regional planning commissions, the recommendations of the municipal legislative bodies, and the land conservation measures contained in the plan of any affected municipality. However, with respect to a natural gas transmission line subject to board review, the line shall be in conformance with any applicable provisions concerning such lines contained in the duly adopted regional plan; and, in addition, upon application of any party, the board shall condition any certificate of public good for a natural gas transmission line issued under this section so as to prohibit service connections that would not be in conformance with the adopted municipal plan in any municipality in which the line is located;

(2) is required to meet the need for present and future demand for service which could not otherwise be provided in a more cost effective manner through energy conservation programs and measures and energy-efficiency and load management measures, including but not limited to those developed pursuant to the provisions of sections 209(d), 21 8c, and 21 8(b) of this title;

(3) will not adversely affect system stability and reliability;

(4) will result in an economic benefit to the state and its residents;

(5) with respect to an in-state facility, will not have an undue adverse effect on esthetics, historic sites, air and water purity, the natural environment and the public health and safety, with due consideration having been given to the criteria specified in 10 V.S.A. 1424a(d) and 6086(a)(1) through (8) and (9)(K);
GRNMTNBOY

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Feb 17, 2011
 
The last paragraph is the important one.
NIMBY

Bennington, VT

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Feb 17, 2011
 
It would be quite funny to watch the biomass plant get built without the pellet plant. Rather, the looks on the NIMBY's faces as they pack their bags and leave town.
you know what is funny

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Feb 17, 2011
 
NIMBY wrote:
It would be quite funny to watch the biomass plant get built without the pellet plant. Rather, the looks on the NIMBY's faces as they pack their bags and leave town.
The news that's going to break which is going to cost lots and lots of money. But the news won't break until jussssstttt the last minutes. The looks on the faces of the investors is what I'm waiting for. Can't wait, actually. It's more fun to watch all of this play out only for nothing.

Nobody is going anywhere.. Tisk tisk little one.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
Vermont Capitol to Build $23 Million Wood-fueled District Heating System



Montpelier Vermont plans to build a 41 MMbtu wood chip-fueled biomass heating system that will heat the state capitol as well as another 175 state and local buildings in the downtown area, and generate 1.8 million kilowatt hours of electricity to the grid. The $22.8 million project is being funded with help from an $8 million federal grant.



The district heating system has been under study for nearly 10 years and is expected to take 16 to 18 months to build once construction starts in 2012. The new system will replace a state-operated, partially wood-fueled steam plant that currently heats the capital and 17 other state buildings in Montpelier. Two of the boilers for the old steam plant are more than 60 years old and very inefficient. The new system will burn about 10,000 to 15,000 tons of locally-grown green wood chips each year depending upon how much of the downtown district is converted to the system.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
NIMBY wrote:
It would be quite funny to watch the biomass plant get built without the pellet plant. Rather, the looks on the NIMBY's faces as they pack their bags and leave town.
A pellet plant could still be built at the old Northeast Wood Products site.

They seem to have quieted down. Either a bad sign or they realize they maybe peeing into the wind.
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Feb 17, 2011
 
We all know it's not being built. Tell us something we don't know?
harvey carter

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Feb 18, 2011
 
GRNMTNBOY wrote:
We all know it's not being built. Tell us something we don't know?
Get ready for more residential sprawl. How does Vermont retain it's working landscape without farming and forestry being actively practiced in the state? Some folks don't have a clue as to what made Pownal the picturesque town hey chose to reside in.
he always lies

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Feb 18, 2011
 
harvey carter wrote:
<quoted text>Get ready for more residential sprawl. How does Vermont retain it's working landscape without farming and forestry being actively practiced in the state? Some folks don't have a clue as to what made Pownal the picturesque town hey chose to reside in.
Most FOLKS have a lot more of a CLUE than you do. You are looking to profit from this, and they are looking beyond their own selfish needs to benefit the whole community.

This place will contain a workforce of a few yard workers from Pownal. You are clearly one of them, or maybe you have been promised a mgt role.

The rest of the community will suffer in the way of health issues, which you seem to care less about.

In any case, you are looking out for Harvey. Please be truthful, or don't post.
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Feb 18, 2011
 
GRNMTNBOY wrote:
We all know it's not being built. Tell us something we don't know?
I could say you're full of ***t, but we all know that.
harvey carter

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Feb 18, 2011
 
he always lies wrote:
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Most FOLKS have a lot more of a CLUE than you do. You are looking to profit from this, and they are looking beyond their own selfish needs to benefit the whole community.
This place will contain a workforce of a few yard workers from Pownal. You are clearly one of them, or maybe you have been promised a mgt role.
The rest of the community will suffer in the way of health issues, which you seem to care less about.
In any case, you are looking out for Harvey. Please be truthful, or don't post.
More name calling . I don't need a job, and have no affiliation with Beaverwood. I own property that is about as close as you can get to the track. If health is an issue. you should be far more concerned about emissions from the college heating plant, and the HWQD sewer plant. But we all know its really about your property values,and your peace and quiet. Who is the real liar here? I suggest you look in the mirror.

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Bennington, VT

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Feb 18, 2011
 
harvey carter wrote:
<quoted text>Get ready for more residential sprawl. How does Vermont retain it's working landscape without farming and forestry being actively practiced in the state? Some folks don't have a clue as to what made Pownal the picturesque town hey chose to reside in.
No they sure don't. If they want to find out they can go here http://www.uvm.edu/landscape/menu.php type Pownal in the search box and browse some of the pictures taken in the 50s, 40s and 30s. Compare them to today. It wasn't industry that brought about this change it was the steady erosion of agriculture and forestry and the influx of people who built houses on all this beautiful scenery.

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