Biomass project reception more positi...

Biomass project reception more positive at Fair Haven location

There are 38 comments on the Bennington Banner story from Oct 27, 2010, titled Biomass project reception more positive at Fair Haven location. In it, Bennington Banner reports that:

Same plant, different town, different reactions. Beaver Wood Energy, LLC, wishes to build two 29.5-megawatt biomass and integrated wood pellet manufacturing facilities in Vermont, but has received differing reactions from Pownal and Fair Haven.

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GDog

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#21 Oct 29, 2010
TruthTellert wrote:
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I could, but you aren't smart enough to understand what power plant personnel do.
I assume by your reply that we are pretty much right on the money on they types of jobs will be created. If our opinions are wrong, why don't you put up or shut up.
truthtellert

Bennington, VT

#22 Oct 30, 2010
Lies Lies Lies.

He's a WELL KNOWN LIER IN BENNINGTON.

If you people just put 2 and 2 together to the way writes, it's very clear who he is, AND what his agenda is. He spews filth and lies all day long in bennington.

I know him personally. Big lier in town. Keep on talking little fella.
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#23 Oct 30, 2010
Liberty wrote:
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Don't dictate to me. I did provide cites for my claims, I quoted from the Banner article this forum is attached to. Read it yourself.
The Banner, now there is a reliable source of information.

Yesterday's news tomorrow, maybe the day after and some it might be true. It's an extrem rarity that the get it right.
Kim

South Hadley, MA

#24 Oct 30, 2010
Thats why these forums are so useful until people like you and the censors come to visit.
GrnMtnBoy

Arlington, VT

#25 Nov 1, 2010
Kim wrote:
Thats why these forums are so useful until people like you and the censors come to visit.
How can they be useful? The full picture isn't there. You NIMBY's and ANTI's present one lopped view. You want to read the NIMBY / ANTI information and nothing else.

I have yet to see any solution to the problem. You people don't want nuclear, coal, oil, hydro, wind, tidal, in some cases solar, or wood produced power. Especially if it's produced in your back yard. So where is it going to come from?

Since: Oct 10

Bennington, VT

#26 Nov 1, 2010
GMB: I don't have a solution, if I did I would run for public office. Nor can I speak for anyone else. Now that said...Personally I like solar and wind. The powers that be have priced it out of reach for most people. I have seen stats on how much I could save with solar over the long run. I am not going to live that long. It's a huge investment for a home to convert after it is built. Those with their hands in the wallets of the oil companies and the companies themselves don't want us to use alternate sources for obvious reasons.
My only recourse is to use less. That my friend is the best choice we all have right now. Use less electricity, thereby there will be less coal, nuclear, etc. used to generate the electricity. How, do we become less dependent on foreign oil? Again use less, that one might not be so easy in rural vt., with minimal public transit and cold winters. But there must be ways you can see where you can reduce your usage. If only by a small amount. Multiply that by all of us and that could make an impact.
I am not a NIMBY in the case of the Pownal incinerator issue. I do live in the town but far enough away so that the impact on me will probably be negligible. None the less I do not support this project for several reasons. Not the least of which is Beaver Woods themselves. They just don't feel trust worthy to me. There have been too many inconsistencies. Regardless, that is not my main reason, it is only one of them. This is why I oppose the incinerator in Pownal.
There appears to be a good bit of information floating around out there indicating that this incinerator will cause health issues in the children who do live nearby. Sadly this may not be determined until after the incinerator is built and then it will be too late. These children's lives are worth more than a few jobs.
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#27 Nov 2, 2010
I can't use much less. And have you noticed, when less is used, they go up on the rates and tell you to save money by...you guessed it...using less. This is the third cycle of this BS. But I agree conservation helps some.

I like the idea of solar and wind also. If I lived on a hill I'd have a windmill. Solar, like you mentioned is very expensive and here in cloudy VT, unreliable. Works today and tomorrow, then it won't until sometime next week.

The other problem is the increasing population and what makes up the vast majority of that increase. Welfare and low income. Granted some don't want to be in that catagory and want to work, then we have those that are multigenerational welfare recipients. WE PAY FOR THEIR POWER. Do you think they are turning the lights off? Turning down the thermostat?

Air quality problems...have you seen the number of chimneys puffing out wood smoke from wood stoves? Which is far more lethal than what will come out of the stack of the generation plant.

What to you see as inconsistancies with Beaver Wood? I can't say I've seen any, but then I don't have time or high speed to study this in great detail.
pipl

South Hadley, MA

#28 Nov 2, 2010
What GrnMtnBoy means is that his low speed brain is one sided and he can only see life his way and it's his way or the low speed highway. What a loser!
Kevin Hoyt

Bennington, VT

#29 Nov 2, 2010
GDog wrote:
Since you two geniuses know everything about powerplants, why don't you use your polesmokers to tell us what jobs are going to be created and how much will they pay? I'm guessing you don't know either.
All the new jobs and the pay scales are listed in the Beaver Wood Energy paperwork that was made public records - they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures. I believe the lowest paying job (for Vermonters working at the plant) is around $30,000 - and that's a hell of a lot more than most employers around here pay. Bottom line... this is an exceptable alternative energy source that will put Vermont ahead of the game, bring the much needed logging industry back to our forests and provide jobs when we need them most. Fear is natural, but ignorance is intolerable. If YOU don't know, then read up on the subject; don't just complain just to complain.
gulp

Bennington, VT

#30 Nov 2, 2010
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
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All the new jobs and the pay scales are listed in the Beaver Wood Energy paperwork that was made public records - they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures. I believe the lowest paying job (for Vermonters working at the plant) is around $30,000 - and that's a hell of a lot more than most employers around here pay. Bottom line... this is an exceptable alternative energy source that will put Vermont ahead of the game, bring the much needed logging industry back to our forests and provide jobs when we need them most. Fear is natural, but ignorance is intolerable. If YOU don't know, then read up on the subject; don't just complain just to complain.
Drink the koolaid some more, Kevin. This isn't farmville.

Great OPINION. Now, if you read up on the true facts, you'll see that this is a polluting mess which will not pass.
gulp

Bennington, VT

#31 Nov 2, 2010
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
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All the new jobs and the pay scales are listed in the Beaver Wood Energy paperwork that was made public records - they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures. I believe the lowest paying job (for Vermonters working at the plant) is around $30,000 - and that's a hell of a lot more than most employers around here pay. Bottom line... this is an exceptable alternative energy source that will put Vermont ahead of the game, bring the much needed logging industry back to our forests and provide jobs when we need them most. Fear is natural, but ignorance is intolerable. If YOU don't know, then read up on the subject; don't just complain just to complain.
HAHA six figures. I had to laugh at that. Are you applying for Tom's job as CEO?

The fact that you write, and believe that, is the funniest thing that I heard all day. Maybe even all week!

Trick or Treat, Kevin. Trick.
Liberty

Rutland, VT

#32 Nov 3, 2010
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
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All the new jobs and the pay scales are listed in the Beaver Wood Energy paperwork that was made public records - they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures. I believe the lowest paying job (for Vermonters working at the plant) is around $30,000 - and that's a hell of a lot more than most employers around here pay. Bottom line... this is an exceptable alternative energy source that will put Vermont ahead of the game, bring the much needed logging industry back to our forests and provide jobs when we need them most. Fear is natural, but ignorance is intolerable. If YOU don't know, then read up on the subject; don't just complain just to complain.
What you don't seem to understand is that we ARE reading and we are still coming up with the conclusion that this incinerator is NOT worth 50 jobs or 100 or 1000, if it hurts our children. The only way we will know for sure is to build it, then it's too late. Signs all over the country say NO BIOMASS. It is NOT an acceptable alternative.
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#33 Nov 3, 2010
Any idea what is coming out of the average chimney? What is in that fuel oil being burned? What is the particular count of the average wood burning stove in Pownal?

I was in the center of a town yesterday that had several wood burning stoves pouring smoke out onto Route 7. I stopped for a coffee. No one was complaining. I guess the libs haven't taken over that town yet.

Biomass is only part of the solultion to the needed increase in power.

What is your solution Liberty? Or are you wealthy enough that you don't care, as long as it's not in your backyard?

I guess gulp can't count...wasted education dollars again? It's five (that's four fingers and a thumb) figure salaries, not six.
wow cant read

Adams, MA

#34 Nov 3, 2010
GrnMtnBoy wrote:
I guess gulp can't count...wasted education dollars again? It's five (that's four fingers and a thumb) figure salaries, not six.
Can't read. Must be too much Rabbit Meat being consumed by pathetic GMB. The poster was correct. I'm actually surprised an inbred like you doesn't have 6 fingers. Wait, maybe that's the problem. 1 2 3 4 5 5. You were always taught that a hand has five fingers, so when you reach five, but one remains, you just say, five!

YOUR buddy Kevin wrote:
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
Kevin Hoyt wrote:
they ALL pay well and cap out in six figures.
GrnMtnBoy

Roy, WA

#35 Nov 3, 2010
" lowest paying job (for Vermonters working at the plant) is around $30,000 "
Let's see a 3 and 4 zeros. That looks like 5 figures to me.
So bite me
stupit

South Hadley, MA

#36 Nov 3, 2010
yuck!
Numbers

Bennington, VT

#38 Nov 14, 2010
Where did you go? I have a question I want not answered and gmb/tt is highly qualified in that non-action.
JKing

Bennington, VT

#39 Feb 25, 2011
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