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There are 27 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jul 23, 2009, titled PETA: Video shows Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey trainers a.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

In this March 9, 2009 file photo, a Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey circus elephant steps off a train in Moonachie, N.J. The animal-rights group, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals released a video showing what it says is the abuse of elephants and tigers used in Ringling Bros.

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Cathy

Chicago, IL

#22 Jul 23, 2009
Just Observing wrote:
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And why are zoos more humane? They are still in captivity. They are still controlled.
Is your problem the abuse or the captivity?
If you interpreted inclusion of the Bronx Zoo as an endorsement of keeping elephants in zoos, than you are mistaken. The Bronx Zoo is one of the world's leading research institutions and has an extraordinary program that supports elephant welfare around the world.

As for zoos in general, many provide a safe environment for elephants so that they can help to educate people and create a culture of care for wild animals. Any training of the elephants is done so that they can be safely examined by veterinary and to encourage mental and physical activity and social interaction. Are zoos an ideal life for an elephant? Of course not. But it does provide an educational value for the public without forcing the elephants to performing for audiences in response to trainers commands and physical abuse.

The circus places elephants in an center ring and has them perform in ways that teach audiences nothing about the elephants habitat or their life in the wild. There is little educational value and these shows are designed to make profit for the circus, not to improve the lives of the elephants.
Jeff

United States

#23 Jul 23, 2009
The only lower, more vile form of human life than PETA is the liberals who make those "Truth" ads they always show on basic cable, that pull off the doozie of making the tobacco industry appear sympathetic in comparison.
Jeff

United States

#24 Jul 23, 2009
Just Observing wrote:
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And why are zoos more humane? They are still in captivity. They are still controlled.
Is your problem the abuse or the captivity?
Pet cats and dogs are held in captivity in millions of american homes. If you don't think animals should be kept by humans, good luck with that.
Animal and then Some

Chicago, IL

#25 Jul 23, 2009
Cathy wrote:
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If you interpreted inclusion of the Bronx Zoo as an endorsement of keeping elephants in zoos, than you are mistaken. The Bronx Zoo is one of the world's leading research institutions and has an extraordinary program that supports elephant welfare around the world.
As for zoos in general, many provide a safe environment for elephants so that they can help to educate people and create a culture of care for wild animals. Any training of the elephants is done so that they can be safely examined by veterinary and to encourage mental and physical activity and social interaction. Are zoos an ideal life for an elephant? Of course not. But it does provide an educational value for the public without forcing the elephants to performing for audiences in response to trainers commands and physical abuse.
The circus places elephants in an center ring and has them perform in ways that teach audiences nothing about the elephants habitat or their life in the wild. There is little educational value and these shows are designed to make profit for the circus, not to improve the lives of the elephants.
Well put.
Just Observing

United States

#26 Jul 23, 2009
Jeff wrote:
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Pet cats and dogs are held in captivity in millions of american homes. If you don't think animals should be kept by humans, good luck with that.
I was just trying to find the previous poster's issue.I have no issue with zoos , circuses and pets. I think a lot of these species would be long extinct if we didn't have use for them. And most of these uses are exploitive. But, they are lower animals. They are not people.

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KEEP OUT

#27 Jul 23, 2009
Just Observing wrote:
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I was just trying to find the previous poster's issue.I have no issue with zoos , circuses and pets. I think a lot of these species would be long extinct if we didn't have use for them. And most of these uses are exploitive. But, they are lower animals. They are not people.
That flies in PETAs very belief. You must understand that humans have no, absolutely no reason to have direct involvement with animals. Animals are not considered lower to them. Hence, the belief of "Total animal liberation".
Me, I'll be eating and enjoying lean tasty deer meat and taking the kids to the zoo on weekends. That's because I'm a human and that's what we do.
MONEY

United States

#28 Jan 8, 2013
Who belives anything Peta has to say they just want to quilt you out of your money. Reearch this group, they kill 95% of rescues, they are against no kill. They idolize Hilter and the KKK. They are considered terroist, they bully America. Peta is not my judge, they are nothing, wht do people listen to them or ASCPA. Hate and muder groups should not be tax exempt.

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