Outing gives Potter passages new meaning

Outing gives Potter passages new meaning

There are 82 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Oct 22, 2007, titled Outing gives Potter passages new meaning. In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

With author J.K. Rowling's revelation that master wizard Albus Dumbledore is gay, some passages about the Hogwarts headmaster and rival wizard Gellert Grindelwald have taken on a new and clearer meaning.

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Ridiculous

Ocala, FL

#1 Oct 22, 2007
Why must they turn these books into a political statement? I have been so excited that so many children, teenagers and adults are actually READING books, and now they will probably be banned from many schools, and many children will not be allowed to read them, because this author tried to make a political statement about them.

Why can't they keep children's books simple, so as to just encourage reading. Isn't that the point? Why does everyone have to be a PC crusader?
FSM

Orlando, FL

#3 Oct 22, 2007
How is this any more political than stating that a particular character was black, or had blue eyes? Simply describing an inherent characteristic of a person is not political, nor "PC," whatever that means.
Ridiculous wrote:
Why must they turn these books into a political statement? I have been so excited that so many children, teenagers and adults are actually READING books, and now they will probably be banned from many schools, and many children will not be allowed to read them, because this author tried to make a political statement about them.
Why can't they keep children's books simple, so as to just encourage reading. Isn't that the point? Why does everyone have to be a PC crusader?
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#4 Oct 22, 2007
Ridiculous wrote:
and now they will probably be banned from many schools, and many children will not be allowed to read them,
Any "school" that would "ban" this book for this reason is not capable of providing a real education. Their students are impaired from a bigoted fundamentalist curriculum, anyway.

I don't see how describing a fictional character is a "political" statement.
Iron Woobie

Ocala, FL

#5 Oct 22, 2007
Folks, stuff like this is just a fact of life like poop-striped towels. Let the kids read the books, let the adults read'em too. No harm in book characters....there are more serious things in the world....like who has the best ham n cheese sammich!
Thom

United States

#7 Oct 22, 2007
It is just you
Thom

United States

#8 Oct 22, 2007
A point most everyone is leaving out is that the book doesn't state that this character is gay. It was in response to a question asked. Most children reading these books, or adults for that matter, would have no idea.
Ridiculous

Ocala, FL

#9 Oct 22, 2007
It serves NO purpose whatsoever to bring up the sexuality of this character. It does not add nor detract from the plot line or the character development. All it serves to do is draw an uproar, because like it or not, you KNOW there is a large population of people who will be turned off by it. It's a kid's book about wizards and good v. evil for God's sake. It doesn't matter whether Albus Dumbledore is gay, straight or asexual. So why even bring it up?
Wombat wrote:
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Any "school" that would "ban" this book for this reason is not capable of providing a real education. Their students are impaired from a bigoted fundamentalist curriculum, anyway.
I don't see how describing a fictional character is a "political" statement.
WHO CARES

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#10 Oct 22, 2007
WHO CARES, IT IS A FICTIONAL BOOK FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#11 Oct 22, 2007
Ridiculous wrote:
It serves NO purpose whatsoever to bring up the sexuality of this character. It does not add nor detract from the plot line or the character development. All it serves to do is draw an uproar, because like it or not, you KNOW there is a large population of people who will be turned off by it. It's a kid's book about wizards and good v. evil for God's sake. It doesn't matter whether Albus Dumbledore is gay, straight or asexual. So why even bring it up?
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Wrong. Your logic is faulty. One cannot ASSUME that b/c a certain portion of the population is bigoted and it is foreseeable that they will have a homophobic reaction that such was the MOTIVATION behind the remark. It is entirely possible that the author said what she did, b/c this is the reality of the world she created, and she doesn't care too whits what some American rednecks think of that reality. There is NO evidence that this fiction was predicated upon the reaction of a few radicals.

Whether or not it "adds" to the fiction is entirely debatable, but it is entirely up to Rowling, as author, to create her world and characters as she sees fit.

You are free to go back to re-reading your particular translated and revised Bible instead.
WTF

Hialeah, FL

#12 Oct 22, 2007
Ridiculous wrote:
It serves NO purpose whatsoever to bring up the sexuality of this character. It does not add nor detract from the plot line or the character development. All it serves to do is draw an uproar, because like it or not, you KNOW there is a large population of people who will be turned off by it. It's a kid's book about wizards and good v. evil for God's sake. It doesn't matter whether Albus Dumbledore is gay, straight or asexual. So why even bring it up?
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Couldn't agree with you more. Did this piece of information change one thing about the story? Absolutely not. Was it an important fact that would have changed how we viewed the story? No. So why did she bother? What was the big point? I disagree with many of the people above...this was a totally unnecessary political statement. I am so sick of people feeling we have to be PC all the time. JK's statement added no value whatsoever to the story and was, in my eyes, just a ploy to get some attention.
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#13 Oct 22, 2007
WTF wrote:
just a ploy to get some attention.
Yeah, lordy only knows that JKR lady sure is starved for attention!

Great logic!!

I think there might even be an aborigine in the Outback somewhere that hasn't heard of Harry Potter yet!

Look, if you are so offended that you are looking for a politically motivated statement, then you're likely to find one.

But the reality is, no one is paying much attention to your opinion or your self-righteous indignation.

It is what she says it is, it is her creation. Take it or leave it, b/c the rest of the world is grown up enough to see her statement as not really mattering much at all except as a point of interest to fans of her fiction.

No more and no less.

Unless you think its another ploy by Hollywood to advance the "Gay Agenda" and attack Christians. In which case I'd say there is little hope for you and you should put your tinfoil hat back on and return to praying and sending checks to televangelists.
Hmmmm

Kissimmee, FL

#14 Oct 22, 2007
SOUNDS LIKE A BIG ATTENTION WH*RE TO ME!

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Adelaide, South Australia.

#15 Oct 22, 2007
Thom wrote:
A point most everyone is leaving out is that the book doesn't state that this character is gay. It was in response to a question asked. Most children reading these books, or adults for that matter, would have no idea.
Good point. Nobody even twigged until the author said something.

It's a bit like real life that way.

Most people are kinda floored when I tell them I'm queer (I prefer that term to gay, as I'm about as queer as they get). They never would have guessed.

Not all gay guys are effeminate queens al-la Will and Grace (god I hate that show). The vast majority of us are just regular blokes.

You probably all know a lot more gay blokes than you realise.
Ridiculous

Ocala, FL

#16 Oct 23, 2007
Since the release of the last book, attention has died somewhat. So yeah, it could have been to generate more publicity. I am currently halfway through the sixth of seven books in the series, and I have yet to read anything that would be clarified by pointing out that Dumbledore is gay. Have you even read any of the books, or are you just crusading for gay rights?

Also, to clarify, I don't care whether he's gay or not. I enjoyed reading the books thus far, and I will finish reading them. It just seems silly to me. Frankly, unless you are doing some sort of invasive procedure on me, I don't give a flip if you're gay, straight, bi or asexual. So please don't try to pidgeonhole me as a homophobe or fundamentalist. I'm just pointing out what I think was a stupid remark.
Wombat wrote:
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Yeah, lordy only knows that JKR lady sure is starved for attention!
Great logic!!
I think there might even be an aborigine in the Outback somewhere that hasn't heard of Harry Potter yet!
Look, if you are so offended that you are looking for a politically motivated statement, then you're likely to find one.
But the reality is, no one is paying much attention to your opinion or your self-righteous indignation.
It is what she says it is, it is her creation. Take it or leave it, b/c the rest of the world is grown up enough to see her statement as not really mattering much at all except as a point of interest to fans of her fiction.
No more and no less.
Unless you think its another ploy by Hollywood to advance the "Gay Agenda" and attack Christians. In which case I'd say there is little hope for you and you should put your tinfoil hat back on and return to praying and sending checks to televangelists.
Ridiculous

Ocala, FL

#17 Oct 23, 2007
It's statements like these that set BACK the gay movement. Gay people preached for so long about how bigoted Christians are, but I've got news for you: Gays (at least judging by YOUR attitude here) are just as bigoted. Not every Christian is sitting home watching televangelists and plotting to ruin the lives of countless homos across the planet. Get real. I would bet there are just as many reasonable Christians who don't give a crap what you do behind closed doors as the ones you have portrayed here. You are highlighting a small segment of Christian fundamentalists. If you want more tolerance, stop being so intolerant yourself!
Wombat wrote:
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Unless you think its another ploy by Hollywood to advance the "Gay Agenda" and attack Christians. In which case I'd say there is little hope for you and you should put your tinfoil hat back on and return to praying and sending checks to televangelists.
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#18 Oct 23, 2007
Ridiculous wrote:
Not every Christian is sitting home watching televangelists and plotting to ruin the lives of countless homos across the planet. Get real. I would bet there are just as many reasonable Christians who don't give a crap what you do behind closed doors as the ones you have portrayed here. You are highlighting a small segment of Christian fundamentalists.
I'm highlighting the fools that have their panties in a wad, here and now, over a description of a FICTIONAL character from a FANTASY book.

Get real indeed. There are more pressing matters than whether or not you bigots can HANDLE a gay character in a fictional book. Get a life.
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#19 Oct 23, 2007
Ridiculous wrote:
I'm just pointing out what I think was a stupid remark.
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I'm just pointing out that calling JKR's remarks "stupid" or "attention seeking" b/c you don't personally approve of them, is, in fact, stupid.

All Potter fans care what she says about her characters (even you!).

NO ONE cares what you think of her characters.

Oh well !
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#20 Oct 23, 2007
PS Not everyone that thinks homophobia is wrong is in fact homosexual. You make a LOT of assumptions.
Wombat

Orlando, FL

#21 Oct 23, 2007
WTF wrote:
I am so sick of people feeling we have to be PC all the time.
I am so sick of people feeling we must never make an effort to be equitable, respectful or tolerant toward others.
Floridian

Essex Junction, VT

#22 Oct 23, 2007
Was this really necessary? To be quite honest with you, I don't think kids give a damn either way and the parents shouldn't either as long as their children are reading the damn thing. Just my $0.02.

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