Any progress in Lake Land 'Or?

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LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#1 Dec 11, 2011
My wife and I just went under contract on a home in Lake Land Or. We are not from the area and it seemed to be a nice place driving through it with our realtor. It was a little tough to get through the gate, but we liked that extra level of security. We have only been here during the day and it was nice and peaceful. The only downside we noticed were the road conditions. However, after visiting this forum, there seems to be a lot more that we need to consider. A lot of the posts were older, so I wanted to see if any of the major issues have been resolved. I would appreciate any answers from people who currently live there. We would lose $1000 by backing out of our contract now, but it may be well worth it if things have spiraled downward in this neighborhood. Our biggest concern is the horrible things that we have heard about the water service. Has the high water bill issue been solved yet? We are used to paying no more than $50 a month for water at our current home. How soon before the entire community has Comcast internet? I work from home and need reliable internet access. And why do so many people recommend not moving here with children? Is it the school? The crime? The other kids? We have a 3 year old daughter and another girl on the way, so this is a serious decision for our young family as they will be raised here and attend one of the nearby elementary schools and daycares. Again, please provide your experiences and opinions if you reside here. We really do not care about the HOA politics and management too much as we keep to ourselves and maintain our home and lot to high standards. We have until February to back out of closing so please share your thoughts and suggestions. Thank you all in advance.
Over 55

Ruther Glen, VA

#2 Dec 11, 2011
We've lived in Lake Land'or for 4 years. We've been satisfied with the community. The roads are being repaved gradually. If you bought on the Land'or side the water bills are lower. That's because we have septic systems. Our water bill is around $30-40 per month. The rates have improved on the Heritage side. The entire community has Comcast internet available. The neighborhood doesn't have crime. There's a new elementary school close by, but I don't know about the quality of the system. The HOA is much better. There's a new general manager.

There are activities throughout the year for children. Maybe someone else can give you more info about the schools.

Welcome to the neighborhood, if you decide to move here.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#3 Dec 12, 2011
Thank you for the update, Over 55. Your answers were to the point and much appreciated. It's good to hear that from someone still living there since a lot of the prior threads are outdated.

We are not the type to complain much about the petty stuff so we may do well here. Our only concern it to ensure a safe environment and good education for our children. Reasonably priced water and reliable internet are also being taken into consideration.
Dont listen to an idiot

Richmond, VA

#4 Dec 12, 2011
Lake Land'or has made a complete turn around in the way of the HOA. They are now more responsive than ever and have listened to the young families. There are a lot of activities than ever before. I have lived there for six years and feel it is a good place for my three kids all under five. People will have complainants about the school but it is what you as a parent make it. My oldest since being enrolled has progressed by leaps and bounds but we do take an interest. If you are looking for a good place to make a difference this is the place to be. There have been a lot of young families that go to the beach and pool for the kids to get involved with. The people who you find belly achin are the ones not involved or who want it to be like the eighties. The tyruth is it will grow and change but how we handle the change now is what will define our future.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#5 Dec 12, 2011
Thanks, don't listen to an idiot. It sounds like things are improving and that's a great assurance. We always try to make the best out of a situation too and keep a positive attitude. It sound like this may be a great place for us.
Interested Observer

Gainesville, FL

#6 Dec 21, 2011
Lake Land 'Or has the lower dues in the Fredericksburg area. It also provides some of the best amenities. Overall, it is now the most progressive private community in the Fredericksburg area. New management and a progressive and thoughtful Board of Directors who are attentative to needs of the people while getting the most for their money, have made it an extremely progressive community. I would recommend it to anyone who is interested in moving into Caroline county.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#7 Dec 21, 2011
Thanks, interested observer. I'm glad to hear that more people are happy with the management change. Can anyone comment on the water bills on the Heritage Side as of lately? We are a family of 2 adults and two small children. Is the average bill still over $100 a month?
Greenthumb

Ashland, VA

#8 Dec 21, 2011
LookingInLakeLandOr wrote:
Thanks, interested observer. I'm glad to hear that more people are happy with the management change. Can anyone comment on the water bills on the Heritage Side as of lately? We are a family of 2 adults and two small children. Is the average bill still over $100 a month?
All I can say is that we are a family of 3 and our average water/sewer bill is $168 a month. We do not water our lawn anymore. When we first moved into the lake some time ago I watered daily and my bill was only $60 per month.
Greenthumb

Ashland, VA

#9 Dec 21, 2011
Here's some good info for you. Caroline School District is Ranked 102 out of 118 Counties in Va.
http://www.schooldigger.com/go/VA/districtran...
Greenthumb

Ashland, VA

#10 Dec 21, 2011
One thing you could think about, is the fact that our HOA dues are lower than other areas and our water rates are higher than other areas. One more thing make sure your property has good drainage or invest in a very good sump pump and a Generac back up Generator so if the power goes out your pumps continue to work. It's also good to keep some other things running, Tv, Frig, Freezer, A/c and Heat.
Janice White

Charlottesville, VA

#11 Dec 22, 2011
How can you say the hoa dues are lower than other areas? They're extremely high. Plus, you've got a 1500.00 move in fee, which is unheard of in other places.
My husband and I live on Heritage side, our water and sewer bill last month was 152.00 for the two of us. My neighbor has 2 children and their water bill is usually 200.00.
When we moved here 5 years ago, it was usually around 65.00 like the other guy said.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#12 Dec 24, 2011
Wow, thanks for all of that useful info. I had heard that water prices were improving here. I guess that was incorrect. And the $1500 move in fee is a little ridiculous as well, but I can handle that as a one time fee more than I can a sky high water bill every month. I don't live here yet so I don't know how well things are run or maintained, but the dues "seem" reasonable for the amenities. I just don't know if I can swallow that water bill. Is anything currently being done to lower it?
GreenThumb

Ashland, VA

#13 Dec 26, 2011
We have fought to lower the water/sewer rates. We did not lose, but we did not win either. The water company (AQUA) did not get approved for a higher water rate then we have now. But the state of Va did approve an increase. So this rate is set in stone.
GreenThumb

Ashland, VA

#14 Dec 26, 2011
If you still have your eye on Caroline County, the housing is still a lot less expensive and the tax is also lower. Just move in an area that you receive your water bill from the County, Their rates are much lower. Stay away from Aqua.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#15 Dec 31, 2011
Thanks guys. We are in the process of negotiating a pretty nice deal on a short sale. Hopefully the low price of the home will offset the water cost.

I was also wondering about the "workout facility". Is it a full gym with weight machines and dumb bells? Or would I have to drive and subscribe to another gym to get a full body weighted workout? I'm not talking cardio equipment...more like benches, leg press machines, and squat racks. I see that the Y is coming next year and that is good news for me.

By the way, Happy New Year to all and thanks again for the feedback. It's been very helpful in our decision to buy here.
Tony

United States

#16 Jan 31, 2012
What did you eventually do about buying a home in Lake Land'Or? I am meeting a realtor to look at two waterfront homes there and was wondering how you made out. It seems like the monthly Water bill is the biggest downside from what I can tell.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#17 Feb 1, 2012
Tony, we are proceeding with the sale. Our prospective home is a short sale and we had to wait a couple of months for it to be approved. Our home inspection is Friday, and we will try to take a tour then. I've talked to some residents and they say that things have changed for the better as far as the HOA goes. However, the water cost on the Heritage side is still outrageous from what I hear. If you can, buy on the Lake Land Or side of the development to drastically save on your water bill. Also, my experience with the water company, Aqua Virginia, in setting up the water has been awful. This isn't the proper thread to vent, but their customer service is terrible and I got different information all of the THREE times I had to call just to get the water activated. It seems to us that the water company and bill will be the biggest downside too. Let me know your feelings after seeing the neighborhood with your realtor and I will continue to post my experiences. Thanks!
Tony

Stafford, VA

#18 Feb 1, 2012
We visted Lake Land'Or today (2/1/12) and but a offer in on a waterfront home on the Lake Land'Or side. Given the price of the house and the views along with the amenities the HOA fees seem reasonable, the development was reasonably maintained......and we'll just have to see how the water bills are. But nothing is perfect and the watefront homes are 1/2 the price as you'd find on Lake Anna. I live in NoVA (why does Mt Airy, MD show up I'll never know) and our HOA fees are 500/yr for road maintenance alone. So, all in all my first impression was good value for the money...I hope I am correct.
Janice White

Charlottesville, VA

#19 Feb 1, 2012
For everyone thinking about buying a home in lake land or, we received info. from the HOA that Aqua VA has applied to the SCC for another rate increase for both water and sewer rates. Apparently, the increase is about 10% of what the current rates are. We are waiting for futher info from the HOA as to when public hearings are going to be.
LookingInLakeLan dOr

King George, VA

#20 Feb 2, 2012
Tony, I got the same impression on about the value of the homes there. When I tell people how much the home that we are buying costs, they are in disbelief. Janice, thanks for your input. The water cost is my biggest fear, especially if it allowed to increase exponentially. I have never paid more than $50 a month for water and that is with a large garden being watered daily. Aqua VA's rates are already extremely overpriced and I have already experienced their poor customer service. Please keep us posted if you will on the public hearings.

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