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Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#42 Sep 14, 2012
I have no issue hiding my name cause frankly I dont give a shit what anyone says about TIM I will be a good friend and stand by his side no matter as will my husband Eddie Allen. From one news outlet I am hearing Tim was in a relationship with Lori. But Yesterday I see her on the news saying how much he will be missed and talking trash about Tim. he feld the scene she didnt stay to help her poor drunken christian husband. NO! she left him just liek she done Tim. Left him high and dry and in all this trouble. Show me a link to video showing tim shot him on the ground. UMM is everybody in this damn state blind look how big Dale is compared to Tim. My God who wouldnt feel threatened without an altercation taking place. It pisses me off that our media outlet LIKE IN THE TRAYVON MARTIN CASE is good at showing the innocent pics of the person killed. I didnt see one mug shot of Dale I mean he did just get out of jail. I didnt see one pic of him in one of his drunken stupor vicious rants. They haven't talked about his run ins with the law or how bad of a temper he has or how he treats people with great disrespect. Truth be told more people feared him than loved him. Even while loving him you had to fear him also!! Why not show pics of TIM with his friends fishing, working on houses, cutting up... Why not show TIM as he IS a friendly private good man. THE COMMUNITY will always fear what it doesnt know. TIM doesnt post his business or run his mouth all over town SO NOONE KNOWS him which makes him an easy target to be judged and persecuted!! Isn't that what this is?!?! Our government and our local officials cant take away gun owners rights. They can't strip us of our right to protect our property because it was one of the rights this country was founded on BUT they can make an example of someone who they see as a lesser individual to show people who d own guns and will protect their property WE WILL FIND A WAY TO PROSECUTE YOU NO MATTER WHAT THE LAW SAYS... Timothy Claytor is a great guy who liked to have a cold beer every now and then who liked his privacy who didnt want nosey shit talkers on his property and because of that he may very well take this charge. I'll never think anything less of him and I respect him more now than I did before for protecting himself.. Dale Holloway came for a fight he expected Tim to take a beating and Dale come out the badass like he wanted everyone to think he was. I hope all the other Dale Holloways out there that think they can trample on people and them just take it get a rude awakening!!

Kentucky has a “Castle doctrine” enshrined in its laws. That’s the right to defend one’s home with deadly force.

Some states, including Kentucky, have expanded the Castle doctrine in recent years, giving people the right to use deadly force outside of their homes.
his daughter

Elizabethtown, KY

#43 Sep 14, 2012
No one ask Wat you thought nor wanted to hear it yea yall maybe dumb enough to take a killers side but if it was your husband that got killed wat would you want really I have never in my life yea maybe there are ppl takin his side but our family will get justice one way or another but you ain't worth the time fighting wit I have better things to do then keep the dead from resting and as soon as its all over everyone will kno Wat truly happened and i myself can not wait god will be wit us every step of the way and wit his power the truth will come out an the wrong will be put away and I'm a true believer that karma is a b!tch it will come back to him believe that
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#44 Sep 14, 2012
I'm sorry for your loss but there is no reason to put a man in prison for protecting himself on his property. Tim will get thru this if he does or doesnt do time. WE (his friends) will stand by him and remind him he done what he had to do to protect himself. I am a firm believer in the right to bare arms and the right to protect yourself and your family. If the rolls were opposite and Tim had been killed I would be hurt I would probably be ill because the loss of a friend is never easy but I wouldnt be running my mouth about dale because I know what this country was built on and I know those rights are something I want my kids to have and their kids to have. We should all have the right to protect ourselves and we should always exercise those rights. If people were exercising their right to carry concealed (with permit) and the right to protect themselves and their homes our prisons wouldnt be overloaded and our streets would be much cleaned and our families would be much safer. YOU CAN NOT sit here and say that if you were in the same situation you would not shoot to kill to protect your family. I don't know maybe these back woods small time counties and towns in KY don't have as much crime so they see this as excessive force BUT if you spend a year where I am from or in Louisville or in anytime where people are murdered everyday for something as stupid as a dollar or over a curse word you would understand why these laws are important to have and it's important for our local law enforcement and justice systems to support these people that are taking care of themselves and sustaining themselves in a world that gets harder to survive in everyday. Maybe Logan County don't have big time crime yet but as our economy gets worse so does the crime. Laws are in place for a reason and for whatever reason god saw it fit that this was your dads time and if you are christian and you know the bible you know god will take you how and when god wants you and it was dale's time....
his daughter wrote:
No one ask Wat you thought nor wanted to hear it yea yall maybe dumb enough to take a killers side but if it was your husband that got killed wat would you want really I have never in my life yea maybe there are ppl takin his side but our family will get justice one way or another but you ain't worth the time fighting wit I have better things to do then keep the dead from resting and as soon as its all over everyone will kno Wat truly happened and i myself can not wait god will be wit us every step of the way and wit his power the truth will come out an the wrong will be put away and I'm a true believer that karma is a b!tch it will come back to him believe that
wtf

Hopkinsville, KY

#45 Sep 15, 2012
Amanda Allen wrote:
I'm sorry for your loss but there is no reason to put a man in prison for protecting himself on his property. Tim will get thru this if he does or doesnt do time. WE (his friends) will stand by him and remind him he done what he had to do to protect himself. I am a firm believer in the right to bare arms and the right to protect yourself and your family. If the rolls were opposite and Tim had been killed I would be hurt I would probably be ill because the loss of a friend is never easy but I wouldnt be running my mouth about dale because I know what this country was built on and I know those rights are something I want my kids to have and their kids to have. We should all have the right to protect ourselves and we should always exercise those rights. If people were exercising their right to carry concealed (with permit) and the right to protect themselves and their homes our prisons wouldnt be overloaded and our streets would be much cleaned and our families would be much safer. YOU CAN NOT sit here and say that if you were in the same situation you would not shoot to kill to protect your family. I don't know maybe these back woods small time counties and towns in KY don't have as much crime so they see this as excessive force BUT if you spend a year where I am from or in Louisville or in anytime where people are murdered everyday for something as stupid as a dollar or over a curse word you would understand why these laws are important to have and it's important for our local law enforcement and justice systems to support these people that are taking care of themselves and sustaining themselves in a world that gets harder to survive in everyday. Maybe Logan County don't have big time crime yet but as our economy gets worse so does the crime. Laws are in place for a reason and for whatever reason god saw it fit that this was your dads time and if you are christian and you know the bible you know god will take you how and when god wants you and it was dale's time....
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how the hell are you gonna get on here and disrepect a childs daddy? maybe you need to step back and put yourelf in her shoess..everyone has a past whether it be good or bad..the man shot dale and shot him again when he was down..to me this is murder..you need to worry about you and yours..would you feel the same if this was your daddy??..MURDERER!!!
obvious

Lewisburg, KY

#46 Sep 15, 2012
obviously the murderer is no good and up to NO good or he wouldn't have pulled his gun on innocent neighbors who were trying to give him his d@mn mail which was delivered to their box by mistake. go figure! he is a piece of CRAP! who lives like that and has surveilance cameras???
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#47 Sep 15, 2012
Like I have already stated. Tim is a private guy he dont run his mouth he dont gossip h dont tell his business to anybody who will listen and he expects people to respect that privacy. I would bet everything that he didnt pull a gun on that lady. He hunts he practice shoots on his property how did she knew he wasnt doing that and she happened up on it?? Neighbors that dont like you tend to talk crap. People fear the unknown... and to most Tim is the unknown.... If self defense is murder then I am a murderer in waiting....
obvious wrote:
obviously the murderer is no good and up to NO good or he wouldn't have pulled his gun on innocent neighbors who were trying to give him his d@mn mail which was delivered to their box by mistake. go figure! he is a piece of CRAP! who lives like that and has surveilance cameras???
every dog has his day

Russellville, KY

#48 Sep 15, 2012
Not to disrespect Dales Family but seriously look at his past. He just got out of jail himself and if I recall it was not his first trip there. He was a bully and he bullied for the last time. He did not go to this guys home to wish him the best of luck with this woman that both of them are accused of messing with. I agree with the Castle laws come on my property raising hell and ya better be ready to meet your maker.....
lol

Russellville, KY

#49 Sep 15, 2012
Who in the crap are yall talking about??????????
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#50 Sep 15, 2012
Tim Claytor and Dale Holloway
lol wrote:
Who in the crap are yall talking about??????????
obvious

Lewisburg, KY

#51 Sep 15, 2012
BOTTOM LINE to Miss Amanda: MURDER IS MURDER! IT IS WHAT IT IS!! and it was WRONG!! Get a grip & zip it. It will all come out in due time. it sounds like you might be in Clayton's 'ring' also.
Allen Thomas

Auburn, KY

#52 Sep 15, 2012
The video proves it wasn't self defense but cold blooded murder, that's why they Put him back in jail. I was told by a deputy that saw the tape dale was trying to leave and Tim shot him like a coward. After reviewing the tape they re-indicted him, he will not get out now.. I too believe in protecting your family, but u have to meet force with the same force, dale was unarmed and Tim was a chicken turd... He should have been a man and faught, but he knew fake would spank that ass.. I would agree if dale had a gun or a weapon but he didn't , Tim should have been a man and faught,, now where he going he won't have no gun to protect his "family" , he better learn to use them hands dale has a lot of people that loved him on jail that will tare him a new butt hole.. Oh and dale did not just get out of jail it was a rehab
jdgbs

United States

#53 Sep 15, 2012
Sad wrote:
Sad for his children and family. He was a good guy. He had a Huge heart and personality. He did not deserve this.
. I new and liked him also dont no the guy who shot him i heard he kicked door in and went after the guy hard to say i wuldnt of shot him also he was a BIG BIG man the guy had to be scared to death and a scared man with a gun not good
Allen Thomas

Auburn, KY

#54 Sep 15, 2012
Amanda ur as good as slapped when seen in public for disrespecting dale to his daughter, believe that and Eddie wants some he can get it too... U say u believe n protecting family, me too! Ya boyfriend is a crack head and a sissy
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#55 Sep 15, 2012
Your threatening on a public forum you realize that is against the law right?? LMAO not that I care apparently you dont know My Husband... I'll be at court and so will he so I guess I will see you soon enough right? Ya got a facebook.. I do make sure you check it out so you know who you are looking for...
Allen Thomas wrote:
Amanda ur as good as slapped when seen in public for disrespecting dale to his daughter, believe that and Eddie wants some he can get it too... U say u believe n protecting family, me too! Ya boyfriend is a crack head and a sissy
Allen Thomas

Auburn, KY

#56 Sep 15, 2012
I didn't threaten I just stated the obvious, talking down on a dead man to his daughter is as low as it gets, your trash and will be treated as such... So what u got a Facebook me too..don't b mad Tim was too much of a sissy to fight a un armed man , size means nothing big people is slow I've whipped many big guys , Tim was just a scared punk.. Too bad he can't use a gun in a cell lol, they'll beat him to death! Lmao
sadbuttrue

United States

#57 Sep 15, 2012
Allen Thomas wrote:
I didn't threaten I just stated the obvious, talking down on a dead man to his daughter is as low as it gets, your trash and will be treated as such... So what u got a Facebook me too..don't b mad Tim was too much of a sissy to fight a un armed man , size means nothing big people is slow I've whipped many big guys , Tim was just a scared punk.. Too bad he can't use a gun in a cell lol, they'll beat him to death! Lmao
another tuff guy.lol do was dale, hows that working for him now?
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#58 Sep 15, 2012
Dale got what he deserved. He got what any many going on someone's property intending on doing harm should get. Thats why the laws are in place. Just like if you came on my property you would get your ass shot and I would expect the same if I came on your's. I didnt disrespect the dead I called the shit like it was!! Dale went for a fight and he got shot exactly like he should have gotten going for the reasons he was going for. If you don't like someone else's opinion how bout move to another country cause this one gives me the freedom of speech.... God I love America!!
Allen Thomas wrote:
I didn't threaten I just stated the obvious, talking down on a dead man to his daughter is as low as it gets, your trash and will be treated as such... So what u got a Facebook me too..don't b mad Tim was too much of a sissy to fight a un armed man , size means nothing big people is slow I've whipped many big guys , Tim was just a scared punk.. Too bad he can't use a gun in a cell lol, they'll beat him to death! Lmao
seriously?!?

United States

#59 Sep 15, 2012
Amanda Allen wrote:
<quoted text>Dale got what he deserved. He got what any many going on someone's property intending on doing harm should get. Thats why the laws are in place. Just like if you came on my property you would get your ass shot and I would expect the same if I came on your's. I didnt disrespect the dead I called the shit like it was!! Dale went for a fight and he got shot exactly like he should have gotten going for the reasons he was going for. If you don't like someone else's opinion how bout move to another country cause this one gives me the freedom of speech.... God I love America!!
Well as long as we're all sharing our opinions, here's mine.... You're a bitch! Let the dead rest in peace and his family say their piece wether you like it or not! They can mourn however they want! This Conversation should have been over a long time ago!
Amanda Allen

Westmoreland, TN

#60 Sep 15, 2012
Bashing Tim won't bring Dale back. If the mourners can say their piece and talk shit about Tim I can sure as shit say my piece as a SUPPORTER of Tim. and Yea I definitely am a bitch a passionate one about what I believe in. If you don't like the LAWS vote someone in who will change them and shut your trap...

[QUOTE who="seriously?!?"] <quoted text>
Well as long as we're all sharing our opinions, here's mine.... You're a bitch! Let the dead rest in peace and his family say their piece wether you like it or not! They can mourn however they want! This Conversation should have been over a long time ago![/QUOTE]
seriously?!?

Russellville, KY

#61 Sep 15, 2012
Amanda Allen wrote:
Bashing Tim won't bring Dale back. If the mourners can say their piece and talk shit about Tim I can sure as shit say my piece as a SUPPORTER of Tim. and Yea I definitely am a bitch a passionate one about what I believe in. If you don't like the LAWS vote someone in who will change them and shut your trap...

[QUOTE who="seriously?!?"] <quoted text>
Well as long as we're all sharing our opinions, here's mine.... You're a bitch! Let the dead rest in peace and his family say their piece wether you like it or not! They can mourn however they want! This Conversation should have been over a long time ago! "

Nobody gives a rats ass about what YOU believe in.... F*CK YOU and have a nice day you passionate BITCH!

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