fight at high school
everyone be nice

Bowling Green, KY

#165 Sep 19, 2008
shes long gone wrote:
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Oh my GOD! WHATEVER! It MAY happen at other schools but I bet it's handled a lot better!
The only way to monitor every single inch of ground between the vocational school and high school would be to have parent volunteers stand guard in every nook and cranny where kids can slip away to. If the school started telling kids you can't walk to vocational at all you must ride the bus - guess what another large group would come forward and gripe about that. There is no single solution to stopping fights from happening. Kids are going to be kids. They are going to fight - at school, at K-Mart Parking lot, Key Village Parking lot, city park, etc. So who's fault is it when they fight there and someone gets hurt? All i'm saying is the teachers do the best they can but they don't have enough manpower to cover every inch of ground. The resource officers should be out between the schools during class changes and I would be curious to know where they were located when this happened. However, I just don't think you all realize how bad a lot of kids are these days and the easy way out is to blame the adults. Sounds to me like if all these fights are happening all the time in Russell County then the parents need a class on how to raise their kids. The school system's job has never been to raise kids because parents aren't qualified. Maybe countywide birth control should be put in place.
Hey

United States

#166 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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You all are acting like this is the only place in the state where fights happen at school. Wake up! It happens in every school district there is. Yes this one was worse but every county deals with this same type of stuff. The people in charge of Russell County schools are all educated, have college degrees, have had children of their own in the schools, and want what is best for your kids. They don't just sit back and invite people to come to school and fight. Write editorials to the paper but don't bash the schools - bash the parents who don't do their jobs at home.
Your right....things like this do happen in other schools...but as pointed out...they are handled appropriately. I realize that fights are going to happen in school, but my point is that it should NEVER have gotten to this point. Sure, there are going to be punches thrown here & there but that should be the worst of it before it's broken up. These boys should not have been outside unsupervised. And yes, these school officials are educated...so what???? What does their having an education prove? They still are obviously NOT capable of doing their jobs properly...and yes they do have & have had their own children in this school system...but I can guarantee you that had this been one of their own children, or if this poor boy help a specific last name in this county....things would be different. We all know it's who you are or who you know....and just forget about everyone else. I can not even begin to imagine what Dustins mother must be going through. My thoughts and prayers are with the family.
everyone be nice

Bowling Green, KY

#167 Sep 19, 2008
Hey wrote:
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Your right....things like this do happen in other schools...but as pointed out...they are handled appropriately. I realize that fights are going to happen in school, but my point is that it should NEVER have gotten to this point. Sure, there are going to be punches thrown here & there but that should be the worst of it before it's broken up. These boys should not have been outside unsupervised. And yes, these school officials are educated...so what???? What does their having an education prove? They still are obviously NOT capable of doing their jobs properly...and yes they do have & have had their own children in this school system...but I can guarantee you that had this been one of their own children, or if this poor boy help a specific last name in this county....things would be different. We all know it's who you are or who you know....and just forget about everyone else. I can not even begin to imagine what Dustins mother must be going through. My thoughts and prayers are with the family.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family too. But I went to school there and know how the teachers make an effort to supervise kids. All teachers are outside their classrooms during class changes. Last time I checked there is no classroom outside behind the middle school so who was supposed to be there to break it up? Until you have walked in the teachers shoes and know what their daily schedule tells them to do its easy to cast stones toward them.
Russell countian

Russell Springs, KY

#168 Sep 19, 2008
And just how do you people know how things are handled in all the schools in the state of Kentucky The teachers don't have the authority to make kids mind like they used to.I know this incident is bad but it does happen in all schools. We just don't hear about them all.. I have children there. I thnk we have a pretty good school myself.
grow up

Russell Springs, KY

#169 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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The only way to monitor every single inch of ground between the vocational school and high school would be to have parent volunteers stand guard in every nook and cranny where kids can slip away to. If the school started telling kids you can't walk to vocational at all you must ride the bus - guess what another large group would come forward and gripe about that. There is no single solution to stopping fights from happening. Kids are going to be kids. They are going to fight - at school, at K-Mart Parking lot, Key Village Parking lot, city park, etc. So who's fault is it when they fight there and someone gets hurt? All i'm saying is the teachers do the best they can but they don't have enough manpower to cover every inch of ground. The resource officers should be out between the schools during class changes and I would be curious to know where they were located when this happened. However, I just don't think you all realize how bad a lot of kids are these days and the easy way out is to blame the adults. Sounds to me like if all these fights are happening all the time in Russell County then the parents need a class on how to raise their kids. The school system's job has never been to raise kids because parents aren't qualified. Maybe countywide birth control should be put in place.
At school, it is the school's responsibility to supervise and protect our children! If these young adults can NOT walk to the Voc responsibly, then they need to have a teacher or parent come to school and hold their hand! You better believe if my child was a bully and I knew about it, I'd be the first parent there to walk my child to class by the hand and teach them how to behave. Outside of school it is the parent's responsibility!
shes long gone

Jamestown, KY

#170 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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My thoughts and prayers are with the family too. But I went to school there and know how the teachers make an effort to supervise kids. All teachers are outside their classrooms during class changes. Last time I checked there is no classroom outside behind the middle school so who was supposed to be there to break it up? Until you have walked in the teachers shoes and know what their daily schedule tells them to do its easy to cast stones toward them.
Sorry, I think you may be missing the point. The focus is not on teachers, but adminstration (who was warned of possible problems) and resources officers (who should be "patrolling" and should have been on alert to this situation).
Other posters are correct-if you can't do your job, then you need to be replaced.
What if someone got hired to knit at FOL, and couldn't knit? Would they be kept on? No, they would be fired. If you take a job, you need to be able to do it (and do it right)-no matter how hard it may be.
Hey

United States

#171 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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My thoughts and prayers are with the family too. But I went to school there and know how the teachers make an effort to supervise kids. All teachers are outside their classrooms during class changes. Last time I checked there is no classroom outside behind the middle school so who was supposed to be there to break it up? Until you have walked in the teachers shoes and know what their daily schedule tells them to do its easy to cast stones toward them.
Well shouldn't have been allowed to walk alone without supervision in the first place. The school knows students go back & forth, so why are they allowed to do it on their own??? And regardless, if it happens at school....it's the responsibility of the school. You send your child to school for an education & you expect them to be safe & taken care of regardless of the age & grade of your child. And don't give me crap about being in the teachers shoes...blah, blah, blah. They chose their profession & if they are not capable of doing it and doing it right, then they need to pick another profession. I went to some very rough schools in my day, very dangerous schools....yet, nothing got to the point it did here. At least not on school property during school hours. School staff were ALWAYS present to prevent things like this from happening. Hell, we had an actual county police officer at school 5 days a week, and metal detectors. Us students didn't like it of course, but it kept us safe & we were able to focus on our education instead of watching our backs. So I do believe that because it happened on school property during school hours, the school is just as much to blame.
everyone be nice

Bowling Green, KY

#172 Sep 19, 2008
Hey wrote:
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Well shouldn't have been allowed to walk alone without supervision in the first place. The school knows students go back & forth, so why are they allowed to do it on their own??? And regardless, if it happens at school....it's the responsibility of the school. You send your child to school for an education & you expect them to be safe & taken care of regardless of the age & grade of your child. And don't give me crap about being in the teachers shoes...blah, blah, blah. They chose their profession & if they are not capable of doing it and doing it right, then they need to pick another profession. I went to some very rough schools in my day, very dangerous schools....yet, nothing got to the point it did here. At least not on school property during school hours. School staff were ALWAYS present to prevent things like this from happening. Hell, we had an actual county police officer at school 5 days a week, and metal detectors. Us students didn't like it of course, but it kept us safe & we were able to focus on our education instead of watching our backs. So I do believe that because it happened on school property during school hours, the school is just as much to blame.
I made that same walk from vocational to RCHS many times. Never once was I involved in an incident and never once did I see any incidents take place. This is an isolated incident where one young man made a very poor choice. So now you are saying letting the students walk back and forth is bad practice? Maybe so but its the same practice thats been in place for years without issues like this. This is yet another example of how our world is going down the drain because people don't know how to act anymore and parents don't know how to parent anymore.
Doc

Wytheville, VA

#173 Sep 19, 2008
would like to know wrote:
The boy that did this was lead out in handcuffs, he has a past of this kind of trouble.
Wonder why he was still in school there? he should have been in Detention in Louisville
Hey

United States

#174 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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I made that same walk from vocational to RCHS many times. Never once was I involved in an incident and never once did I see any incidents take place. This is an isolated incident where one young man made a very poor choice. So now you are saying letting the students walk back and forth is bad practice? Maybe so but its the same practice thats been in place for years without issues like this. This is yet another example of how our world is going down the drain because people don't know how to act anymore and parents don't know how to parent anymore.
You're right...people don't know how to act & ALOT of parents don't know how to parent...so yeah, policies & procedures have to be changed to keep the children safe while at school. So, if it means not letting them walk alone, then so be it. Keeps the students safe & keeps the parents happy & keeps the school from being liable. Things change, the world changes daily....only Russell Co seems to stay the same....most of these poor kids wouldn't make it outside of this county.
Doc

Wytheville, VA

#175 Sep 19, 2008
grow up wrote:
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At school, it is the school's responsibility to supervise and protect our children! If these young adults can NOT walk to the Voc responsibly, then they need to have a teacher or parent come to school and hold their hand! You better believe if my child was a bully and I knew about it, I'd be the first parent there to walk my child to class by the hand and teach them how to behave. Outside of school it is the parent's responsibility!
Too much bulling has been going on for too long. One thing for sure, Curtis Snow will never do any more on this earth! Damn teachers were afraid of him, maybe the same with this situation.
Doc

Wytheville, VA

#176 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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My thoughts and prayers are with the family too. But I went to school there and know how the teachers make an effort to supervise kids. All teachers are outside their classrooms during class changes. Last time I checked there is no classroom outside behind the middle school so who was supposed to be there to break it up? Until you have walked in the teachers shoes and know what their daily schedule tells them to do its easy to cast stones toward them.
No iot is not the teachers' fault. It is the ADMINISTRATERS' FAULT!!!
shes long gone

Jamestown, KY

#177 Sep 19, 2008
QUIT MISSING THE POINT!
It's like a friggin' act of Congress to pick up YOUR OWN CHILD from school every day, but they can't keep kids safe for a seven hours a day? ESPECIALLY when they have been warned about a situation in advance?
Somebody PLEASE explain this to me!
everyone be nice

Bowling Green, KY

#178 Sep 19, 2008
i have explained it. when kids follow the rules there are no problems. but too many kids there have no respect for authority because of the lack of parenting they receive. school is like a daycare to most people in rc. the facilities, teachers, and administrators there do a good job. too bad a lot of parents don't. and on that particular day think how many kids were kept safe. its not like they have riots at school every day. one kid got hurt. yes that is one too many but another 1000 or so went that day and went home without a scratch. a lot of people probably smiled, learned, felt good about their day. russell county has good schools. end of story. i live in louisville now. people have been fighting up here this week over gas. people fight. people fight in school. people fight at gas stations. people fight at home. and to hear you all tell it i guess russell county has turned into the meanest place in the world now. it wasn't like that when i grew up.

Since: Apr 08

Russell Springs, KY

#179 Sep 19, 2008
everyone be nice wrote:
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You all are acting like this is the only place in the state where fights happen at school. Wake up! It happens in every school district there is. Yes this one was worse but every county deals with this same type of stuff. The people in charge of Russell County schools are all educated, have college degrees, have had children of their own in the schools, and want what is best for your kids. They don't just sit back and invite people to come to school and fight. Write editorials to the paper but don't bash the schools - bash the parents who don't do their jobs at home.
It should not have happened in the first place since I called the school and told them and what does education have to do with keeping all of our children safe nothing at all that's what. I am a good parent I have taught my children to be respectful, nice, honest and to turn the other cheek if possible. My son did not deserve any of this that has happed to him if everyone had been doing their job this never would have happened!!!!!!

Since: Apr 08

Russell Springs, KY

#180 Sep 19, 2008
Update on Dustin: we just got home from Lexington and he is scheduled for surgery October 8th to fix his nose. The dr. said they are going to wait until all the swelling goes down before they think about doing surgery on his eye.Just thought I would let everyone know.
hugs

Russell Springs, KY

#181 Sep 19, 2008
SHELLIE JACKSON wrote:
<quoted text>It should not have happened in the first place since I called the school and told them and what does education have to do with keeping all of our children safe nothing at all that's what. I am a good parent I have taught my children to be respectful, nice, honest and to turn the other cheek if possible. My son did not deserve any of this that has happed to him if everyone had been doing their job this never would have happened!!!!!!
((((Shellie))))) Do know the people in this county that have an ounce of common sense knows the school failed your child. Maybe kids have been walking from the Vocational building to the high school for years unsupervised, that does NOT make it right. When I send my child to school I do so with a bit of security that my child will be looked after and kept safe. Don't allow ignorance to upset you, say a prayer and hand them over to God. Also have some peace knowing you are doing your best to protect their children too, it is obvious they won't. God Bless You.

Since: Apr 08

Russell Springs, KY

#182 Sep 19, 2008
I have a P.O. Box set up for Dustin if anyone wants to send him get well cards. It is P.O. Box 1778 Russell Springs KY 42642
lol

Russell Springs, KY

#183 Sep 19, 2008
maybe if this happened to your child you woould think again or maybe you would be nice and let it go I guess. One child is tooooooooooooooo many no matter how many were safe and went home next time one might no go home but I guess that ok too
stop the violence

Russell Springs, KY

#184 Sep 19, 2008
Hey wrote:
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You're right...people don't know how to act & ALOT of parents don't know how to parent...so yeah, policies & procedures have to be changed to keep the children safe while at school. So, if it means not letting them walk alone, then so be it. Keeps the students safe & keeps the parents happy & keeps the school from being liable. Things change, the world changes daily....only Russell Co seems to stay the same....most of these poor kids wouldn't make it outside of this county.
Parents ARE responsible for proper upbringing of their children. Schools systems ARE responsible for the safety of students while they are at school.Why have resourse officiers IF they are not patroling the schools inside & out. Fire the ones presently employed & hire ones willing to do their jobs!

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