Jack Abbott

Russell Springs, KY

#23 Jan 22, 2008
I have never and will never NEED a cop for anything,,only women and children need cops..
Foolish sense

Russell Springs, KY

#24 Jan 22, 2008
Hunter wrote:
Six corrupt public officials were sent to jail and fined yesterday.
See: Manchester forum fokr details.
Yeah and get this, the judge they appoijnted to handle the RS case is the Manchester judge this was all happening under.
Poorboy

Alto, GA

#25 Jan 22, 2008
Foolish sense wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah and get this, the judge they appoijnted to handle the RS case is the Manchester judge this was all happening under.
Which Judge was appointed to RC case?
Cop Nation

United States

#26 Jan 22, 2008
Guru wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like the lost post has been found.
Apparently. Personally, I believe there ARE in fact good cops and bad cops. I don't think that JM is a bad cop, he is a hard-ass, but he has to be tough to deal with all of the assholes that walk around and sell your kids dope. It's not easy being a cop, I'm sure, but I think he's been trying to do the right thing all along. However, BJ is another story. Thank God they are appealing this case. I hope he is innocent, but something about it still doesn't feel right...
Whaaaaaat

Russell Springs, KY

#27 Jan 22, 2008
No all cops are not bad but YES IRVIN IS A BAD COP. He is at the center of most bad things and not just being a hardass as you say. There is a constitution for a reason, not just for his convenience as he seems to think is the case.
Sherlock Holmes

Russell Springs, KY

#28 Jan 22, 2008
Cop Nation wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently. Personally, I believe there ARE in fact good cops and bad cops. I don't think that JM is a bad cop, he is a hard-ass, but he has to be tough to deal with all of the assholes that walk around and sell your kids dope. It's not easy being a cop, I'm sure, but I think he's been trying to do the right thing all along. However, BJ is another story. Thank God they are appealing this case. I hope he is innocent, but something about it still doesn't feel right...
Burton was found to be not guilty. A verdict of not guilty can't be appealed.

Sherlock Holmes
Judicial Detective
Judge

Hudson, OH

#29 Jan 22, 2008
Sherlock Holmes wrote:
<quoted text>
Burton was found to be not guilty. A verdict of not guilty can't be appealed.
Sherlock Holmes
Judicial Detective
Yes, you are right. No APPEAL! That jury should really be ashamed of themselves.
I would support him not going to jail, but he should have lost his job.
123abc

Campbellsville, KY

#30 Jan 22, 2008
Oh please MOUTH noone is scared of you if your going to do something then do it. Your just like JM all mouth and no action. No one is scared of you. So say what you want to MOUTH!!!!
Awww-but wait

United States

#32 Jan 22, 2008
Judge wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you are right. No APPEAL! That jury should really be ashamed of themselves.
I would support him not going to jail, but he should have lost his job.
Actually, if you have enough pull in the system, and a little money to go on, you can get appeals.

Example would be this case-Go TO: http://www.radio.cz/en/article/94528
entitled "New Verdict on Police Brutality Case" And yes, it's in another country, but it can happen here too!

A victim's family demanded justice but judge after judge they pronounced a not-guilty verdict. The STATE ATTORNEY appealed the verdict and the fourth time round the REGIONAL court found one of the officers GUILTY. He requested medical experts to try to specify when the injuries had taken place.
I have also found that the prosecutor and the victim's family can appeal to the Supreme Court against the verdict if there were irregularities during the trial that could have influenced the jury's verdict.(Witnesses that didn't come forward, new autopsy results, so forth). It IS possible to get an appeal on a defendent's non-guilty verdict by taking the case to a higher court if there is new evidence or anything that may have faulted the prosecution in the first trial. Hard, but possible. Sorry guys! I hope that the victim's family in BJ's case can get justice if they do not have peace already. And, HELL YEAH, he should have lost his job!
Sherlock Holmes

Russell Springs, KY

#35 Jan 23, 2008
Awww-but wait wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, if you have enough pull in the system, and a little money to go on, you can get appeals.
Example would be this case-Go TO: http://www.radio.cz/en/article/94528
entitled "New Verdict on Police Brutality Case" And yes, it's in another country, but it can happen here too!
A victim's family demanded justice but judge after judge they pronounced a not-guilty verdict. The STATE ATTORNEY appealed the verdict and the fourth time round the REGIONAL court found one of the officers GUILTY. He requested medical experts to try to specify when the injuries had taken place.
I have also found that the prosecutor and the victim's family can appeal to the Supreme Court against the verdict if there were irregularities during the trial that could have influenced the jury's verdict.(Witnesses that didn't come forward, new autopsy results, so forth). It IS possible to get an appeal on a defendent's non-guilty verdict by taking the case to a higher court if there is new evidence or anything that may have faulted the prosecution in the first trial. Hard, but possible. Sorry guys! I hope that the victim's family in BJ's case can get justice if they do not have peace already. And, HELL YEAH, he should have lost his job!
It cannot happen here. He can't be tried for the crime again in state court. The only possibility is Federal charges on civil rights violations. I don't agree with that either, because in my mind, that is double jeopardy. No one should be tried twice for the same acts after being aquitted.

Just my opinion,
Sherlock
Judge

Mount Vernon, KY

#36 Jan 23, 2008
Sherlock Holmes wrote:
<quoted text>
It cannot happen here. He can't be tried for the crime again in state court. The only possibility is Federal charges on civil rights violations. I don't agree with that either, because in my mind, that is double jeopardy. No one should be tried twice for the same acts after being aquitted.
Just my opinion,
Sherlock
Again, you are right on legality. The chances of getting this case in federal court is slim to none, unless one is black and I don't know their race. I assume Burton is white.
GURU

Lexington, KY

#38 Jan 23, 2008
Judge wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you are right on legality. The chances of getting this case in federal court is slim to none, unless one is black and I don't know their race. I assume Burton is white.
This thread needs to stay near the top.
chimom

Russell Springs, KY

#39 Jan 23, 2008
Cop Nation wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently. Personally, I believe there ARE in fact good cops and bad cops. I don't think that JM is a bad cop, he is a hard-ass, but he has to be tough to deal with all of the assholes that walk around and sell your kids dope. It's not easy being a cop, I'm sure, but I think he's been trying to do the right thing all along. However, BJ is another story. Thank God they are appealing this case. I hope he is innocent, but something about it still doesn't feel right...
Maybe you should check around and see where the dope is coming from thats being sold to your kids.Trying to do the right thing means being honest and this man wouldnt know honest if it jumped up and hit him in the face.Him and his lawyers stand around and giggle like school girls.Justice may never come to Russell co and its cops like him that will keep that from happening.
wait a minute

Russell Springs, KY

#40 Jan 23, 2008
I thought that JMI's dope goes to Manchester? I don't get out much, but I don't think we have enough drug busts by the Russell Springs PD to keep two towns stocked?
wait a minute

Russell Springs, KY

#41 Jan 23, 2008
oh, and there is no dope being sold to my kids. My children have been raised with love, respect and proper supervision, they don't and never have used drugs. (I know there some children from good and balanced homes that use drugs, they are the exception, not the rule.)
So up we will go

Russell Springs, KY

#42 Jan 23, 2008
GURU wrote:
<quoted text>
This thread needs to stay near the top.
Absolutely!
Lets go back UP

Jamestown, KY

#43 Jan 23, 2008
I agree.Keep at top.
why

Russell Springs, KY

#44 Jan 23, 2008
why to the top? what does having all these posts to the top do? I'm lost.
too funny

Russell Springs, KY

#45 Jan 23, 2008
why wrote:
why to the top? what does having all these posts to the top do? I'm lost.
i don't know, but it must be important!
no dummie

Jamestown, KY

#46 Jan 23, 2008
sure is...unless you like to see crooked cops sending ppl to jail for less than what they do themselves.this will keep attention on them.

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