Pastor for the Master

Somerset, KY

#62 Aug 22, 2010
With this place it is God first, Thats the only way someone can truely be delivered. I support the brother and his staff 100%. What if it was your child hooked on drugs, You would want help for them...right?
How Funny

East Bernstadt, KY

#63 Aug 24, 2010
Pastor for the Master wrote:
With this place it is God first, Thats the only way someone can truely be delivered. I support the brother and his staff 100%. What if it was your child hooked on drugs, You would want help for them...right?
AMEN!!!! What gets me is that SO many people want to throw off on the rehab without truly understanding a blessed thing about the work that Pastor Troutt, Ms. DJ, and the staff there do to help those who are addicted...or hurting...or dependent....or any of the problems that are addressed there. No one is asking for public dollars, so either need to pray for the clients who are there trying to better their lives, or keep their mouths shut.:)
Local Worker

Jamestown, KY

#64 Aug 27, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
For your information I happen to make a very good living . I pay my fair share of taxes. My total deductions a wk. are almost 300.00 .I make 18.00 an hr and do overtime . I have no problem with my taxes going to help the ones who really need it ,but I do have a problem with them going to all the addicts who will never be a productive member of society. They only take advantage of everything and everybody. then the first chance they get they are back to the same old thing.So no I dont have any compassion for them. And I sure dont have any reason to be jealous of them.
Thank odd, we could have swore that in your Aug. 8 post, you stated that you worked for $8.00 dollars and hour. Which is it, 8 or 18? If you live in Russell county, I highly doubt that you make 18 an hour. The average yearly income for Russell is 25,000 and the state 40 thousand. Now tinker, lets get you story straight. Also, please tell us who pays you 18 and we will all go get one of those unskilled jobs.
baby momma

Russell Springs, KY

#65 Aug 27, 2010
it is a good place for people to have when they need it so everybody else get over it.
aggravated at ignorance

Clarkson, KY

#66 Sep 21, 2011
It's private pay, don't worry, your meager tax contribution goes to government waste. Feel better now?

Tinkerbell wrote:
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
observer

Russell Springs, KY

#67 Sep 22, 2011
Tinkerbell wrote:
For your information I happen to make a very good living . I pay my fair share of taxes. My total deductions a wk. are almost 300.00 .I make 18.00 an hr and do overtime . I have no problem with my taxes going to help the ones who really need it ,but I do have a problem with them going to all the addicts who will never be a productive member of society. They only take advantage of everything and everybody. then the first chance they get they are back to the same old thing.So no I dont have any compassion for them. And I sure dont have any reason to be jealous of them.
Bitter much? you should seriously get offa your cross cause its gettin chilly and somebody will need the wood for a fire...I have been an addict since I was 11 yrs old; I had to take barbituates for a seizure disorder and got addicted. At 15 I started drinking and by 18 was a full blown alcoholic. I made many wrong choices and mistakes which cost me greatly. I am still an addict today but I choose not to use because I have higher priorities, like a job and helping other people. I do believe that it is not those who recieve government assistance that have caused the financial problems in the country but blatant mismanagement and greed from the politicians themselves. They are in far better position to abuse the funds than we will ever be.
i know too

Elizabethtown, KY

#68 Sep 22, 2011
i know wrote:
<quoted text>every patient pays 1000.00 a month for their rehabilitation
They work with those in extreme financial binds...
Tinker needs a bell

Russellville, KY

#69 Sep 22, 2011
Tinkerbell wrote:
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
Well "Tinkerbell", 2nd Chance was successful for my child whom is now a student in college and has a job. We don't have a pool. By the way, you nor you're tax dollars paid for his recovery. Real nice for your concern of those trying to make a change for the positive. Maybe you'd like to volunteer at 2nd Chance. It might open your heart and mind.
hearsay

United States

#70 Sep 23, 2011
I heard from someone that this place is "cult-like". How true is that ?
No doctor

Jamestown, KY

#71 Sep 24, 2011
If there is no doctor I don't think they can deal with someone coming off drugs...
Wow

Casey, IL

#72 Sep 25, 2011
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>How many addicts do you know that ever get off drugs and get a real job ? They take everything they can get from the gov. They recieve medical cards and use them to buy their drugs. The poor tax payer can't even enjoy a vacation or even go to the dr. because we have so many druggie and lazy people we have to support. People who have never paid a dime into social security have drained the system dry . So when you and I get ready to retire there won't be anything in social security for us .So how much more tax money do you want to donate?
Social security isn't enough to retire on anyhow. I would much rather my tax dollars go to a few months of rehab instead of years of welfare.
former client

London, KY

#73 Feb 2, 2012
I was a client of 2nd chance for almost 6 months total, I believe that the Trout's Greg and DJ have their hearts in the right place since I left there they have moved to a new location this was a mattter of discussion before I left there, They had some wonderful volunteers when I was there, one in particular I remember was a minister that came every day and gave us a lesson from the bible and just sat and talked about his experiences of drug problems, also members of different churches in the area were very nice to volunteer to bring meals since the clients there are the ones that cook and clean to give them a break which was very much appreciated. I for one did not have the money to pay 1 thousand a month and depended on ppl who donated money to pay my costs while I was there, With all that being said I do believe that there is lots of room for improvement with their program but since they have moved maybe these changes have been made I will say that i have met several young women that were there after i had already left and they loved it there was their comment but also they said best thing about it was that DJ let them play cornhole all day long, which I really thought odd the young women seemed very sincere and said that they had really helped her and she was in a program in Winchester to help here continue to be sober, but when I was there the clients did do chores and did do bible study and did go to meetings about addiction and did attend different churches around the surrounding area. Things I do hope they improved are as follows they need a trained counselor and also medical care of some kind no medical care of any kind was available when I was there, and sadly enough some of their volunteer workers were bringing contrabrand into their facility. But I have heard that they are starting a satelite facility in Winchester as a outpatient service and I hope this goes well, but they seriously need a board of directors that will hold accountable where money is spent and exactly what charges per client are, not just whatever the person can afford to pay, when you have a client that has rich parents then that person is granted special priviledges based on fact that the parents have paid more money, didnt seem very bible based thing to do, but no one is perfect i for one certainly am not, I dont believe that woman and men are properly supervised as i witnessed several incidents that were extremely sexual in nature and very out in the open. But wish them all the best, an just hope that since they are having sponsorships now that seem to be bringing in more money that it is used in a more appropriate manner, it isnt proper for any rehab to out and out lie about what services they offer, and this could be fixed so easily, if only some of the churches that support them would ask them to be more open with their business statements and costs and please dont tell ppl that medical services are available when they arent, lying is a sin, like i said before they could be doing a great service to so many but addiction does not cure itself and you cant let young children who have just stopped long enough to be considered clean to monitor themselves if they had they ability to self motivate and do it without help they dont need to be there...and openly making fun of clients after they have left the program with the clients that are still there is not a christian thing to do and i witnessed that happen more than once, i just hope that by posting this one of their sponsors will take a closer look at exactly what is going on at this program, it could be great it has the potential to be
accountability

Russell Springs, KY

#74 Feb 2, 2012
I believe often behind the scene situations are frequently all about illicit sex and or money.
nice guess but wrong

London, KY

#75 Feb 3, 2012
i know wrote:
<quoted text>every patient pays 1000.00 a month for their rehabilitation
Not every client that attends 2nd Chance pays the same amt. They charge whatever amt they choose based on how much they think they can get, they are very open about this practice. It happens to be one of their policies that i personally dont agree with. I think if some of the churches that help support this program would let their business committee give the Troutt's some sound financial advice this program would grow tremendously because the money would be spent in a more productive way and I believe the program should be legally held accountable for the claims they make making false claims about the program they run clearly is not Christian based in any way. Isnt that one of the first things ppl learn about when studying the bible that it is a sin to lie?? Also I know that the lied to ppl about how much money they spend on the clients and that they claim to seperate the women from the men and 99% of the time the clients are unsupervised in activities that involve both sexes and that when clients are caught with illegal drugs they say well you need to try and not do that again, I watched one woman count her own pills each morning that she was taking while in the program and not under any kind of medical supervision who could possibly believe that allowing an admitted addict to self medicate in front of rest of ppl in a program trying to stop their own addiction is a good plan to help the person that some family has trusted to the Troutt's care?? This program needs to allow the churches that support them full access to their daily activities, a nanny cam placed there would make a very interesting news expose
Backwoods

Jamestown, KY

#76 Feb 3, 2012
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>How many addicts do you know that ever get off drugs and get a real job ? They take everything they can get from the gov. They recieve medical cards and use them to buy their drugs. The poor tax payer can't even enjoy a vacation or even go to the dr. because we have so many druggie and lazy people we have to support. People who have never paid a dime into social security have drained the system dry . So when you and I get ready to retire there won't be anything in social security for us .So how much more tax money do you want to donate?
I was a drug addict 4 a long time. I have not used drugs 4 8 years now. I have had the same job 4 six years and i take care of my kids and wife verry well. U r right that most dont change but some of us do.
concerned citizen

Russell Springs, KY

#79 Mar 1, 2012
I know for a fact, they play with peoples minds. If they really dealt with the people really on drugs instead of someone who just had a crumb of pot in their car but has begged them to do drug tests and adding time to their visits/counseling or whatever they call it they would accomplish a lot more. I guess this is a way to get more money. Someone trying to work doesn't have time for these meetings and besides that if someone is being forced into going is it really going to help them?
I've never done drugs but if I was forced to go to meetings to listen to druggies I might decide to do some.
just looking

Jamestown, KY

#80 May 9, 2012
i was looking up the number to 2nd chance just to talk to greg and this form came up... i must say.. everyone talks of drug addicts being on welfare and using the tax $. i just want to say i was in this program myself. ive never been on welfare in my life. i have a college degree. this program is ran from donations and a very high sucessfull rate. i been clean for years. mr troutt has rehabilitated nurses, doctor, lawyers, teachers, so before u just associate drugs with unemployed people that are abusing the welfare system... think again because its all around u. alot of people for different reasons can get hooked on drugs. its the working class and bigwheels around this county who can afford to do the drugs and bring the drugs in the county... from someone who knows
leelee

Minneapolis, MN

#82 Sep 15, 2012
i currently have a family member in 2nd chance recovery. i don't know about donations. but for my family member it cost the rest of the family a $1000.00 for the first month. it will so be worth is if he/she comes out healthier, happier and drug free.
Help KY FINEST

Pineville, KY

#83 Sep 15, 2012
The second chance gives someone an option! Key word there..OPTION.

Option not to go to jail..option to get a clean test..to get a job. In a society where health (PHYSICAL AND MENTAL) which is not kept in check by requirement. Only the use of street drugs or use of prescription drugs(?) Why would anyone care of your use. Long as you get shat done and are productive. WELL they do..so we must reform!
Russell countian

Russell Springs, KY

#84 Sep 15, 2012
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>Im sure they would appreciate all donations but they will get absolutely nothing from me .
Why bcause you are one that need the program the most? They are the ones who bark the loudest!

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