AUNT BEE

Moline, IL

#22 Jul 15, 2010
I support Second Chance wrote:
I have a family member who went through this program and has been clean and free of drugs and alcohol for three years now, holds down a responsible job, goes to church, and is a good parent again. It's a complete turn-around and I feel like this is a completely new person. The key with 2nd Chance is that they emphasize the church aspect - people who are part of a supportive, non-judgemental church congregation do best. The Trouts are wonderful people who have made a huge difference in our community.
I do urge anyone who can do so to give your time, money, or materials to them. Second Chance is a great example of how private enterprise will always do a better job than government can do.
OH MY its been my experience in mayberry and watching andy that usually when a person or family memeber like yours becomes a confidential infromant they have no choice but to go straight but i bet that fam member will still steal your vicodons from your med cabnet."OH DEAR"
hah

Leitchfield, KY

#23 Jul 15, 2010
AUNT BEE wrote:
<quoted text>OH MY its been my experience in mayberry and watching andy that usually when a person or family memeber like yours becomes a confidential infromant they have no choice but to go straight but i bet that fam member will still steal your vicodons from your med cabnet."OH DEAR"
What the heck is an infromant?
TWEEKER

Moline, IL

#24 Jul 15, 2010
hah wrote:
<quoted text>
What the heck is an infromant?
koul b a gig blak wiener n ur moms buttox
hah

Leitchfield, KY

#25 Jul 15, 2010
TWEEKER wrote:
<quoted text>koul b a gig blak wiener n ur moms buttox
Wow, you sure fooled everyone by changing your name! Unfortunately for you, your real spelling is just as bad as your last post. Maybe next year when you get to junior high school, you'll learn how to spell better. Hang in there...
TWEEKER

Moline, IL

#26 Jul 15, 2010
hah wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, you sure fooled everyone by changing your name! Unfortunately for you, your real spelling is just as bad as your last post. Maybe next year when you get to junior high school, you'll learn how to spell better. Hang in there...
LIAR

Russell Springs, KY

#27 Jul 15, 2010
I have to work for fifty cents an hour while librul foreign immigrant gay married abortionist drug addicts collect welfare and food stamps and drink beer by the pool all day! That's when they're not vacationing in the Riviera!!! And that just isn't right.
And neither are you bunch of retards.
Hmmmm

Russell Springs, KY

#28 Jul 15, 2010
What is that cross with those tacky fake flowers in front of their building? It is so horrendous!!!
Bruce Wilson

Ann Arbor, MI

#29 Jul 19, 2010
2nd Chance is a great place and is not paid for by the government. They are caring people and their program works. They take kids who are in trouble and they are a blessing for all familys involved.
How Funny

London, KY

#30 Jul 28, 2010
Hmmmm wrote:
What is that cross with those tacky fake flowers in front of their building? It is so horrendous!!!
You know, I would be afraid to make any type of comment about a cross.....what Jesus went through on the cross for you and I (and everyone) else, was definitely horrendous, but of course, someone like you would rather slam a business or organization that is trying to do Jesus' work.
Have worked there

Russell Springs, KY

#31 Jul 28, 2010
How Funny wrote:
<quoted text> You know, I would be afraid to make any type of comment about a cross.....what Jesus went through on the cross for you and I (and everyone) else, was definitely horrendous, but of course, someone like you would rather slam a business or organization that is trying to do Jesus' work.
I have worked there,and i can tell you that these people that are there are there for a good reason. Trout and his wife are wonderful people, and care about the people there. I know for a fact that they dont sit around the pool drinking beer. and also none of the clients is allowed to get any help from the gov. while they are there. The other staff that is there are also wonderful. They work and when they are not working they are going to school to do something better with their lives. They are there for the right reasons. Unlike some of the other people they had working there. Keep up the good work....
badmoonrisin

Russell Springs, KY

#32 Jul 29, 2010
I pass by there every day and thay are always working.don't ever give up or judge people they just need people to give them help & support...good luck to all of you...keep god in your mind and your heart.you are all on the right track now...
Blessed

London, KY

#33 Jul 31, 2010
Everyone might think these drug addicts are low, lazy, non working people.. But thats not always the case!
My husband has gone there..after being addicted to pain med. after a bad wreck 15yrs ago..He decided on his own for our family to try to find help. We were referred there through another church.
We own our own home, own our own cars , and pay our bills . He has worked ever day since he was 16. Im a college grad with a BA.
Everyone wants to have this "view" or "vision" of what a drug addict is.
The thing is my husband was a functioning addict. Alot of ppl out there in our communities are. But people dont see alot of that b/c they are successful in life, and are hard workers.
I thank God that he was lead there on his own free will to find people who can help him overcome the hardships of addiction. Just understanding how changing one person can change many.. I thank you 2nd chance. ;)
Anonymous Wife.
sherriffdaisy

Jamestown, KY

#34 Jul 31, 2010
tinkerbell wrote:
Let me tell you something . I have worked hard all my life . I have raised my kid without any help from the government or anyone else . I never had the time to get high on drugs or alcohol . You need to get your priorties straight . You think we need to feel sorry for the drug addicts instead of the children they are destroying . And another thing, dont preach the Bible to me because I probably know as much about the Bible as you do . I have been to church, and I doubt if you ever went a day in your life . The Bible happens to say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears . How many chance do you think these drug addict deserve ? Till they kill one of their children ? It is happening every day.
Jesus said to forgive them 70 times 7. These people who are in bondage to drugs/alcohol are in need of God's love and mercy, just as you are when you fall time and time again. We as Christians are suppose to pull them up out of the ditch and love them into a relationship with Christ, not degrade them and cast them aside. We are all sinners in need of a Savior. Try a little forgiveness, you will find it goes a long way in healing yourself and others.
Inside story

Jamestown, KY

#35 Aug 1, 2010
Have worked there wrote:
<quoted text> I have worked there,and i can tell you that these people that are there are there for a good reason. Trout and his wife are wonderful people, and care about the people there. I know for a fact that they dont sit around the pool drinking beer. and also none of the clients is allowed to get any help from the gov. while they are there. The other staff that is there are also wonderful. They work and when they are not working they are going to school to do something better with their lives. They are there for the right reasons. Unlike some of the other people they had working there. Keep up the good work....
I agree that this place is a good place and it is a strict rehab, but I beg to differ on the government aid. The clients do get government aid because they use their EBT cards at the grocery store. I know this and have saw it with mine own eyes plus, I know some clients. They give their cards to, well lets just say the volunteer help and then they buy groceries. Which i suppose is reasonable, since they are being feed. Therefore, just get the facts straight. I do believe that 2nd chance is a much better option then the court system but it sure is not perfect and they have many flaws as other system do.
Have worked there

Russell Springs, KY

#36 Aug 1, 2010
Inside story wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that this place is a good place and it is a strict rehab, but I beg to differ on the government aid. The clients do get government aid because they use their EBT cards at the grocery store. I know this and have saw it with mine own eyes plus, I know some clients. They give their cards to, well lets just say the volunteer help and then they buy groceries. Which i suppose is reasonable, since they are being feed. Therefore, just get the facts straight. I do believe that 2nd chance is a much better option then the court system but it sure is not perfect and they have many flaws as other system do.
Yea i agree with you some of the people there do have food stamps but they had it before they went there. and the case workers let them keep a certin amount. But you do not get approved just because you are in there. Yes sometimes they let them use their ebt cards but it is not all the time. The people that do work there get food stamps yes and they have to some times help with the food but yet they also eat along with everyone.
TAXPAYER

Glasgow, KY

#37 Aug 1, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
Preach it Brother/Sister I am so mad about it my self I can't, that is a subject I just don't have the energy for.
all I can say is I am so, so sick of working MY ass off so people who have nothing wrong with them can sit back and live better tham me because I am supporting their lazy asses. I cant get started on that subject.
contradictory

Lexington, KY

#38 Aug 1, 2010
TAXPAYER wrote:
<quoted text>Preach it Brother/Sister I am so mad about it my self I can't, that is a subject I just don't have the energy for.
all I can say is I am so, so sick of working MY ass off so people who have nothing wrong with them can sit back and live better tham me because I am supporting their lazy asses. I cant get started on that subject.
Then why did you????
American Worker

Jamestown, KY

#39 Aug 2, 2010
TAXPAYER wrote:
<quoted text>Preach it Brother/Sister I am so mad about it my self I can't, that is a subject I just don't have the energy for.
all I can say is I am so, so sick of working MY ass off so people who have nothing wrong with them can sit back and live better tham me because I am supporting their lazy asses. I cant get started on that subject.
Tax payers do not spend one penny for 2nd chance. This rehab is paid by the clients and their families. They often set up payment plans for the family's. Yes, some of the clients get food stamps, those that have children but they received the assistance before they were admitted. Each client works/ has chores at the facility and they learn life skills. There is no government funding that goes to this place. These people do have something wrong, it is called an addiction and addiction is hard to break. Addiction is a chemical dependency that takes time to change. If you have never been addicted to any substance, then you have no right to judge those that have been addicted. Addiction can be to any substance and it is something that the body must be freed from just like other illnesses.(No I did not say it was a disease)When the body intakes a substance for a long period of time, it changes the chemical processes within the body and breaking/changing that chemical process back to normal takes time and often other medications. Caffeine, nicotine and even sugar can be an addiction. Someone with diabetes can not utilize the chemical compounds of sugar, therefore the body reacts and causes problems with the liver and pancreas. Drugs/alcohol changes the chemical snaps in the brain and the brain no long functions properly.(there's more to it than that, but we don't have time for a physiology lesson).Most addicts have underlining issues.(Think about why they turned to a substance)Yes, we should be able to just say no, but in the real world, there are many stressors that cause us to turn to something that can help relieve the physical and psychological pain.This is why we try to help addicts, many of them suffered abuse as children, and yes, it is hard to get past, when you are a victim of physical or sexual abuse. They did not ask to be abused, they did not choose it. We all have different ways of dealing with problems and we all can not cope the same. Yes, there should be a reasonable amount of time that one can recover, however, a few months cannot take away years of abuse. We have a choice to help those with addictions, or we can leave them on our streets to push, rob, steal or whatever else it is that they do.(Or of course pay for incarnation, that's really going well for us)WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE SOME COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE, Look at our world. We are in the shape that we are in, because everyone just thinks of their self. It is better to help others, this is what will improve our communities. Everyone deserves a second chance, and if you are a christian and you believe in what the Bible teaches, then you must give more than a second chance but 7 times 70. Ignorance is bliss, learn a little about something before you judge, and be careful because one day you may be in the same position and those that you judged might be your judge. American Worker and Advocate for Humanity
TAXPAYER

Glasgow, KY

#40 Aug 2, 2010
American Worker wrote:
<quoted text>Tax payers do not spend one penny for 2nd chance. This rehab is paid by the clients and their families. They often set up payment plans for the family's. Yes, some of the clients get food stamps, those that have children but they received the assistance before they were admitted. Each client works/ has chores at the facility and they learn life skills. There is no government funding that goes to this place. These people do have something wrong, it is called an addiction and addiction is hard to break. Addiction is a chemical dependency that takes time to change. If you have never been addicted to any substance, then you have no right to judge those that have been addicted. Addiction can be to any substance and it is something that the body must be freed from just like other illnesses.(No I did not say it was a disease)When the body intakes a substance for a long period of time, it changes the chemical processes within the body and breaking/changing that chemical process back to normal takes time and often other medications. Caffeine, nicotine and even sugar can be an addiction. Someone with diabetes can not utilize the chemical compounds of sugar, therefore the body reacts and causes problems with the liver and pancreas. Drugs/alcohol changes the chemical snaps in the brain and the brain no long functions properly.(there's more to it than that, but we don't have time for a physiology lesson).Most addicts have underlining issues.(Think about why they turned to a substance)Yes, we should be able to just say no, but in the real world, there are many stressors that cause us to turn to something that can help relieve the physical and psychological pain.This is why we try to help addicts, many of them suffered abuse as children, and yes, it is hard to get past, when you are a victim of physical or sexual abuse. They did not ask to be abused, they did not choose it. We all have different ways of dealing with problems and we all can not cope the same. Yes, there should be a reasonable amount of time that one can recover, however, a few months cannot take away years of abuse. We have a choice to help those with addictions, or we can leave them on our streets to push, rob, steal or whatever else it is that they do.(Or of course pay for incarnation, that's really going well for us)WHY CAN YOU NOT HAVE SOME COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE, Look at our world. We are in the shape that we are in, because everyone just thinks of their self. It is better to help others, this is what will improve our communities. Everyone deserves a second chance, and if you are a christian and you believe in what the Bible teaches, then you must give more than a second chance but 7 times 70. Ignorance is bliss, learn a little about something before you judge, and be careful because one day you may be in the same position and those that you judged might be your judge. American Worker and Advocate for Humanity
I don't have a problem helping anyone as long as they are trying to themselves, but most people who get in the system don't ever try to get back out of it those are the people I myself are complaining about!
recovering addict

Jamestown, KY

#41 Aug 2, 2010
tinkerbell wrote:
Let me tell you something . I have worked hard all my life . I have raised my kid without any help from the government or anyone else . I never had the time to get high on drugs or alcohol . You need to get your priorties straight . You think we need to feel sorry for the drug addicts instead of the children they are destroying . And another thing, dont preach the Bible to me because I probably know as much about the Bible as you do . I have been to church, and I doubt if you ever went a day in your life . The Bible happens to say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears . How many chance do you think these drug addict deserve ? Till they kill one of their children ? It is happening every day.
sounds like you got with the wrong man and you blame the world and youre so down on drunks why do you live in bardstown it aint dry their like it is here its dangerous being on the roads down their you never know if the person youre meeting is drunk or not and dont judge 2nd chance until you've tryed it

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