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Tinkerbell

Russell Springs, KY

#1 Jun 21, 2010
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
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Russell Springs, KY

#2 Jun 21, 2010
yeap and it will never change till we change our county government........if you are fed up with it , vote out all the elected officals and put in a new crew, they are the ones that make the decisions to keep turning the back out and paying for all the benefits they get
wrong

Russell Springs, KY

#3 Jun 21, 2010
They receive private donations. I'd rather my tax dollars pay for a few months of rehab for someone than years of welfare because addicts can't pass drug tests for work,medical bills because addicts aren't healthy,and jail costs because addicts go to jail.
agree

Russell Springs, KY

#4 Jun 22, 2010
wrong wrote:
They receive private donations. I'd rather my tax dollars pay for a few months of rehab for someone than years of welfare because addicts can't pass drug tests for work,medical bills because addicts aren't healthy,and jail costs because addicts go to jail.
So very true.
Tinkerbell

Russell Springs, KY

#5 Jun 22, 2010
wrong wrote:
They receive private donations. I'd rather my tax dollars pay for a few months of rehab for someone than years of welfare because addicts can't pass drug tests for work,medical bills because addicts aren't healthy,and jail costs because addicts go to jail.
How many addicts do you know that ever get off drugs and get a real job ? They take everything they can get from the gov. They recieve medical cards and use them to buy their drugs. The poor tax payer can't even enjoy a vacation or even go to the dr. because we have so many druggie and lazy people we have to support. People who have never paid a dime into social security have drained the system dry . So when you and I get ready to retire there won't be anything in social security for us .So how much more tax money do you want to donate?
Annie

Russell Springs, KY

#6 Jun 22, 2010
It sounds like a good thing, but does bear keeping an eye on. It is so easy for something good to turn. Greed is the sin that seems to control lots of folks. They start out with good intentions, then become greedy. Everyone connected to this needs to remember it is a form of rehab first and foremost. I hope they keep up the good work.
Citizen

Jamestown, KY

#7 Jun 22, 2010
2nd Chance receives no state or federal tax money. It is solely ran from donations and volunteer workers.A minister and his wife run the program and it is a biblical based program. And yes, they do have some success in rehabilitation. You can visit there web site and you can even make a donation to help. The center works hard to help addicts but just like every thing else it takes money. If you can't or won't give money, buy them a Wal-mart or Krogers, or K-Mart gift card and send it to them. They need supplies just like the the rest of us. Check out their web site. http://www.2ndchanceoutreach.com/ They are just trying to help people and often they take in homeless, if they are willing to abide by the rules. And no, I don't work there, or go there. They do not allow internet or television for clients. 2nd chance is just trying to help and their program is just as good , if not better than the revolving doors of our court system, without the state and federal aid.
wrong

Russell Springs, KY

#8 Jun 22, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>How many addicts do you know that ever get off drugs and get a real job ? They take everything they can get from the gov. They recieve medical cards and use them to buy their drugs. The poor tax payer can't even enjoy a vacation or even go to the dr. because we have so many druggie and lazy people we have to support. People who have never paid a dime into social security have drained the system dry . So when you and I get ready to retire there won't be anything in social security for us .So how much more tax money do you want to donate?
Funny you should ask. I know a few that have. A very good friend of mine was an addict. He actually went through the Second Chance program. It has been over a year. He is employed. This is the longest he has ever kept a job. He stays clean. He hasn't been in trouble since. They do a lot of follow up and take personal interest in ever patient. I really believe they have been a blessing.
i did

Russell Springs, KY

#9 Jun 22, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>How many addicts do you know that ever get off drugs and get a real job ? They take everything they can get from the gov. They recieve medical cards and use them to buy their drugs. The poor tax payer can't even enjoy a vacation or even go to the dr. because we have so many druggie and lazy people we have to support. People who have never paid a dime into social security have drained the system dry . So when you and I get ready to retire there won't be anything in social security for us .So how much more tax money do you want to donate?
for one they dont get money from knowone but those who r n rehab,so your 5.00 a week for taxes that u dont get doesnt help that at all, look at your county worker standing around gettin 8 to 9.00 a hour and for your info i know a lot of recovered add.that have great jobs and goes to school .just for kick WHAT KIND OF JOB DO U HAVE !im a recovering add. and i make 13.00 a hour hows that for a recovering add my life is great thanks to GOD and Second chance rehab we will pray for u and your taxes
trouble

Russell Springs, KY

#10 Jun 22, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
they get ABSOLUTELY NO goverment funding and im sure they would appreciate any help from people
Tinkerbell

Russell Springs, KY

#11 Jun 22, 2010
trouble wrote:
<quoted text> they get ABSOLUTELY NO goverment funding and im sure they would appreciate any help from people
Im sure they would appreciate all donations but they will get absolutely nothing from me .
How Funny

Somerset, KY

#12 Jul 14, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>Im sure they would appreciate all donations but they will get absolutely nothing from me .
I'm sure that no one from 2nd Chance called you up out of the blue to ask you for money, so get over your self-importance. 2nd Chance is supported by some of the local churches (you know, people who CARE-not based on someone's past, but care about the welfare and well-being of their souls), and also by volunteers through-out the community. It is also not solely for drug addicts. It's for people who have been abused, or have other problems as well. They are shown love through Christ and a Christian based curriculum that teaches them the importance of God and living by His specifications. They do have access to a pool, but only during specified hours each day. They either work at the outreach center, or if they have progressed far enough - GET BACK NOW- they actually have a job, just like you and me. If they haven't "phased" that high, then they are in classes to aid their recovery each and every day. Who are you to think that you can judge ANYONE for past and/or present problems. God loves each of us the same, He doesn't discriminate between the "clean" people or the addicts. He loves everyone. However, the Bible does state "judge not least you be judge accordingly", so I would be very careful in my thinking about others, just because they may have a problem.
How Funny

Somerset, KY

#14 Jul 14, 2010
Cold slaw guy wrote:
the aimlessly wonder around all day and have cheap disgusting sex at the taxpayers expense
You should read the other posts before you reply - it makes you look a little simple. Also, checking out the website of the business before you reply would be suitable. They GET NO GOVERNMENT FUNDING at 2nd Chance. Also, just as an FYI-the male clients and female clients are separated. They even eat in different areas.
Hello

Russell Springs, KY

#15 Jul 14, 2010
thumbs up to SECOND CHANCE OUTREACH.Drug addiction is no laughing matter.
hah

Mammoth Cave, KY

#16 Jul 14, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
<quoted text>Im sure they would appreciate all donations but they will get absolutely nothing from me .
That's the best response you got after being made look like a complete ass for your earlier comments? What a jerk...
tinkerbell

Russell Springs, KY

#17 Jul 14, 2010
Let me tell you something . I have worked hard all my life . I have raised my kid without any help from the government or anyone else . I never had the time to get high on drugs or alcohol . You need to get your priorties straight . You think we need to feel sorry for the drug addicts instead of the children they are destroying . And another thing, dont preach the Bible to me because I probably know as much about the Bible as you do . I have been to church, and I doubt if you ever went a day in your life . The Bible happens to say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears . How many chance do you think these drug addict deserve ? Till they kill one of their children ? It is happening every day.
hah

Mammoth Cave, KY

#18 Jul 14, 2010
tinkerbell wrote:
Let me tell you something . I have worked hard all my life . I have raised my kid without any help from the government or anyone else . I never had the time to get high on drugs or alcohol . You need to get your priorties straight . You think we need to feel sorry for the drug addicts instead of the children they are destroying . And another thing, dont preach the Bible to me because I probably know as much about the Bible as you do . I have been to church, and I doubt if you ever went a day in your life . The Bible happens to say you can judge the tree by the fruit it bears . How many chance do you think these drug addict deserve ? Till they kill one of their children ? It is happening every day.
Here's another one quoting only the part of the bible that suits them. What kind of fruit do you bear exactly? Did you not read or acknowledge any of the posts setting you straight? Nobody said anything about feeling sorry for anyone. How about saying you were wrong in your judgment? See what the bible says about that word.
Bicentennial baby

Ferguson, KY

#19 Jul 15, 2010
ting a ling tink...You remember Jesus breaking rules like the sabbath to help his fellow man. OR sitting with an untouchable women at the well. Do you remember Gods Teachings of love and the beating Jesus laid on the Lawman of the church who were selling faith. There is plenty to be took from the good book. It all points to Improving ALL PEOPLES situation. Not just those in fancy robs with the right name. We all know if we had a rich daddy most of us would never have to face what we have done. There is a whole lot of poor people though and secondchance is right for reaching out and doing a job that this county will need more and more as long as drug companies get folks hooked on the commodities.Now if we could implore a collage that teaches law we could do away most of the trash in the courthouse. That drug court thing IS A FAILURE and money pit. The courthouse is throwing more drugs that are even more addictive at addicts instead of fixing what drug companies are doing. The Courthouses drug court is helping DRUG COMPANIES SALES via these so called clinics that they FORCE on addicts. Instead of fixing a wound they only tear into the wound deeper. Second chance works at the heart of the problem and teaching Jesus way of love,kindness and forgiveness is a WONDERFUL START. Keep feeding their soul Mister TROUT. Love your and your wifes dedication to the problems of this whole community. If justice really were blind you would have some real fancy clientele.
I support Second Chance

Russell Springs, KY

#20 Jul 15, 2010
I have a family member who went through this program and has been clean and free of drugs and alcohol for three years now, holds down a responsible job, goes to church, and is a good parent again. It's a complete turn-around and I feel like this is a completely new person. The key with 2nd Chance is that they emphasize the church aspect - people who are part of a supportive, non-judgemental church congregation do best. The Trouts are wonderful people who have made a huge difference in our community.
I do urge anyone who can do so to give your time, money, or materials to them. Second Chance is a great example of how private enterprise will always do a better job than government can do.
Chumlee

Russell Springs, KY

#21 Jul 15, 2010
Tinkerbell wrote:
What kind of a place is this 2nd chance (Outreach)? Heard it was a successful rehab. Is this another place the tax payer have to pay for? I dont know about anyone else but I am getting tired of paying to try and rehabilatate these useless drug addicts .They lay around the pool all day while I work and sweat all day .
Maybe if a lot of you work really hard and sweat alot then they can all swim in it.

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