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maggie

Rushville, IN

#22 Jan 24, 2013
Fact wrote:
Yes it really is sad how unintelligent people are. So sad that instead of researching and studying a subject they just regurgitate what they have biasedly been taught. With so many years of this type of brainwashing I guess we can't expect people to think for themselves. Hmmmmm judgement at its finest being past here. If you display the Confederate flag you have to be slow and a racist? There's a couple speaking out of both sides of their mouths on here.
I don't see any blacks with confederate flags
serious

Schaumburg, IL

#23 Jan 24, 2013
maggie wrote:
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I don't see any blacks with confederate flags
why is that? How many blacks do u think have them in the south? Do u think all blacks associate the flag with racism? Do u think the native americans associate the American flag as a racist symbol? Or do u believe that the confederate flag represents racism because that is what u were taught? The KKK doesn't use the confederate flag as their symbol rather they use a cross symbol or X symbol. Do u think the blacks would associate the original 13 star flag of the United States as a racist flag?would u burn that? Everyone has different beliefs and interpretations of what each flag of the U.S means and represents. But I don't see native americans burning our flag do u?
serious

Schaumburg, IL

#24 Jan 24, 2013
Can u tell me what the stars;the X and colors on the confederate flag represent?
im slow

Spiceland, IN

#25 Jan 24, 2013
im slow an your an idiot to be burn that flag
a bit of knowledge

Schaumburg, IL

#26 Jan 24, 2013
maggie wrote:
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I don't see any blacks with confederate flags
to give you a bit of knowledge there are southern states such as Alabama and Mississippi that are predominately black that voted in flags similar to that of the confederate flag as their state flags. Battleships in world war 2 had the confederate flag insignia printed on them which the crew were predominately black navy crew men to signify unity. Other countries such as Canada;the UK use that same flag as an expression of our culture.maybe a little history lesson or looking outside of the northern box may help ur way of thinking. I have a question what does our American flag mean? First thing people say is freedom. How free our we really? Unity is what we need and if a flag can do that then someone print one up and fly it high.
troll

United States

#27 Jan 24, 2013
hickville , indiana. now where is my spittoon
True story

Valparaiso, IN

#28 Jan 24, 2013
maggie wrote:
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I don't see any blacks with confederate flags
Here's a Proud Black man speaking of the Confederate flag. I know it's long but if this really means anything to you,you will read it.If you don't the fingers have to be pointed at you as the close minded one Maggie.
12:51 PM ET
Opinion: Black student defends his Confederate flag
Byron Thomas is 19, black, a freshman at the University of South Carolina Beaufort and a proud Southerner. He hung a Confederate flag in his dorm room window until the university asked him to take it down because several people had complained about it.(The university later stepped back from the request, saying all students have the right to free speech.)
"I know it's kinda weird because I'm black," Thomas said in an iReport he submitted. "When I look at this flag, I just don't see racism. I see pride, respect. Southern pride, that's what I see."
"Ignorance gave that flag a bad name, ignorant people like the KKK," he told CNN's Don Lemon.
The post got other iReporters talking, including Omekongo Dbinga, who said Thomas has the right to fly the flag, but there's no denying the flag's history. Egberto Willies said he doesn't understand Thomas' view of the Confederacy, but he thinks the North and South both have ugly histories with race relations.
Thomas said he won't put the flag back up, although he believes he has the right to do so. The university plans to host a discussion about the flag after students return from winter break.
Here's what Thomas told CNN In America about the flag and why he probably won't hang it up again.
CNN: What does the Confederate flag mean to you?
Thomas: To me, it means more states' rights and no bigger government. The government was getting too big. I believe South Carolina knows me better than the federal government. I personally have a lot of pride from being in the South. I see some freedom from when the South seceded from the North. I know that sounds bad. I see freedom differently than most people see it. Just that you have the right to do what you want to do and form your own opinion.
The bottom line for me: I do not see that flag as a racist symbol. Only an ignorant person can say that. I have researched it and studied it.
CNN: Why is it so important to you to be able to display this flag in your dorm room?
Thomas: It is very important that I be allowed to exercise my freedom of free speech. I'm one of the nicest people, but today, you can't say anything without people getting offended or hurt by what you are saying. I felt very offended when I was asked to take down that flag because [the housing department] said it violated the racist code. It's a freedom thing to me.
The generation before us told us that the flag is racist. It's not going anywhere. No one is going to burn all of the flags. If me or someone else can show my generation that it means something different maybe it won't divide us. I haven't experienced racism myself but it still exists. Maybe if we start now with this flag, racism can continue to get smaller.
CNN: Do you have roommates and what do they think of your flag?
Thomas: I have three white roommates and they know I'm not racist. They think what I'm doing is amazing because they have never met a black person like me before because of my opinions. I was starting to make a change because I made my own opinion.
Some black students came to me and have said I have changed their viewpoint on the Confederate flag and that I helped change them. They have said [like me] they also don't want to be called African-American anymore. They, too, feel like they want to be American, not African-America, because it's like a second category and they were born in America not Africa. So other people have come up to me, not just my roommates.
True story

Valparaiso, IN

#29 Jan 24, 2013
CNN: When did you hang the flag up and how long was it up for before you were asked to remove it?
Thomas: I hung it up in September after a research paper for a class about it. After that, I hung it up because I saw other students hanging things up and I didn't really have anything. It was up for two months and no one said anything about it. I had other black students say they had no problem with it. There were no riots, no complaints, no one was throwing rocks or anything. It was peaceful around here until the housing department asked me to take it down. They said they had been trying to get in touch with me. It was Sunday, November 20. A resident adviser came to my room and asked me to take it down. So I put it up in my living room and then the head housing woman came looking for me and said I was violating the racism code. I asked if I could put up an American flag and she said yes because it's not racist. It's a double standard because some Native Americans could take offense to an American flag. I didn't say that, but I was thinking it.
The flag is down [since Monday, November 21] because the housing woman said I had to [remove it.]
I might not put it back up now because my parents are disappointed in me. They've said I can do what I want but I want them on my side. I want them to see it as trying to make a change for my generation. I'm sorry if I'm making my family look bad.
CNN: Were you surprised when you were asked to remove your Confederate flag?
Thomas: I was very surprised because it wasn't bothering anyone. The big reason is because I'm black and most black people have feelings about it and I have no problem with it. It didn't' become an issue until they asked me to take it down. People came and asked me why I had to take it down and I was embarrassed. I was apparently violating a code I didn't think I was violating.
CNN: What do you want your critics to know?
Thomas: I just feel like, I should have my right to see a flag the way I see it. Just because someone feels offense to it, why should I have to take it down? They can walk another way. It's not like I have a cross burning or a noose hanging outside my room. I don't see it as a racist statement to me and that's my opinion of it. I don't think I should have to take it down just because someone might take offense. They shouldn't have that control of me. They are not my mom and dad.
My generation should have our opportunities to show our viewpoint. We shouldn't have to change it just because the majority disagrees. I'm not trying to make someone cry or hurt them. Why can't we be ourselves and think for ourselves for once? I'm trying to show that I'm not thinking for the majority which is that [the Confederate flag is] racist.
True story

Valparaiso, IN

#30 Jan 24, 2013
CNN: At this point is it about influencing change more than about the flag itself?
Thomas: Change has to happen somehow so I said,'Why can't I be the person who makes the change? Why not start now instead of later?'
I've made change before in my community, so why can't I do it on a national level? In my high school, I got them to become a national green and solar school by using solar panels and my school or county didn't pay for a thing.
CNN: What have you learned from this experience so far?
Thomas: I learned that my generation of people are applauding me and telling me they want to see things different now. I've gotten so many friend requests on Facebook. They are encouraging me. The generation before has mixed views about it, strong views. The generation before won't let us think for ourselves. They had their chance to think and run things but we need to have our chance. We will have our turn to step up to the plate and get out of this mess that we're in.
I respect where they are coming from. I'm not saying that what happened didn't happen. We don't want history to repeat itself, but I see where they are coming from. They endured things I might never endure, but why do I still have to feel grounded, that I have to endure it? They weren't allowed to go to school with white people but I am. I have never been to a school without white people. Why can't my generation start making our own history? I respect every black person for the civil rights movement. I just want us to move on from all of the hatred that's still dividing us today. I'm tired of us still being divided.
few posts

Schaumburg, IL

#31 Jan 24, 2013
I posted a few posts on here such as curious;serious;and a bit of knowledge but what I never informed anyone is that iam BLACK. My neighbor started to fly the flag I mentioned and I felt like I was a target. So I asked him yesterday why he would do that with a black man living next door. He said iam not nor ever have been a racist I think of u as a man like I myself as a man. This flag to me means unity. That is what our country needs now is unity. The government is taking away freedoms ur ancestors faught for and the ones my ancestors faught for. They are trying to control us like the north was trying to do the south which the result was the civil war.hearing him speak I done my own research and I have posted my findings. I have a new found respect for freedom of expression and speech and unity.
robert lee

Churubusco, IN

#32 Jan 25, 2013
Fact wrote:
Yes it really is sad how unintelligent people are. So sad that instead of researching and studying a subject they just regurgitate what they have biasedly been taught. With so many years of this type of brainwashing I guess we can't expect people to think for themselves. Hmmmmm judgement at its finest being past here. If you display the Confederate flag you have to be slow and a racist? There's a couple speaking out of both sides of their mouths on here.
So true. my family served in the southern army and thats why I fly the stars and bars,by the way I voted for this president twice,so I guess that makes me a racist,those flag haters dont have a clue..
loves bacon

Chillicothe, OH

#33 Jan 25, 2013
All across America people racoon hunt, and even competition coon hunt. That being said blacks fron the southern states have rebel flags, rebel flag belt buckels, and drive trucks....
maggie

Chicago, IL

#34 Jan 25, 2013
Ya ur all gun toting kooks
dumb

Woodstock, IL

#35 Jan 25, 2013
again Maggie, I cannot say this enough you are dumb
Fact

Fond Du Lac, WI

#36 Jan 25, 2013
maggie wrote:
Ya ur all gun toting kooks
. Honey can you really just not read or are you really just that close minded?
chaela

Chicago, IL

#37 Jan 25, 2013
Hick wrote:
I support this! He's showing his southern pride& he ain't scared to! It not all about being racist or anything. He is just putting his belief out there! Its taken the wrong way sometimes. Let him be. It ain't nothing but a country thang(:
I don't know who you all are speaking of but is his "southern pride" authentic. I myself was born and raised in the deep south and proud of my heritage, however, I don't agree with everything but we have lived and learned from it. Additionally, we were not alive during the cival war and many of us not even during the civil rights movement. I have found that many around here who fly the confederate flag do it as a way to show themselves ignorant and racist and have no clue to the real meaning. He had the right to think what he wants, say what he wants, and that includes the displaying of this flag. That is our right as an American. I am American by birth but southern by the grace of God and I hope very soon to return to my roots!

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