Do you believe that the US of A will be brought to its knees?

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Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#1 Feb 20, 2013
I personally do not believe that the U.S. can avoid being brought to its knees!

I believe all the birth pains are clear to see.

Have you ever really thought about all the things that are wrong with the U.S.?

I mean really think about what is happening in our nation! What do we think we are doing?

Psalm 103:9 He {God} will not always chide:{To express disapproval} and neither will he keep {Withhold} his anger for ever.

Jeremiah 3:2 Lift up your eyes to the high places, and see where you have not been lien with. In the ways have you sat for them, as the Arabian in the wilderness; and you have polluted the land with thy whoredoms {Spiritual adultery} and with your wickedness.

Jeremiah 3:3 Therefore the showers {Blessings} have been withheld, and there has been no latter rain; {Abundance} and you had a whore's forehead, you refused to be ashamed.

A {whores forehead} is indicative of rebellion toward God and what God has ordered. As the women veiled their faces, and not to do so was a mark of shamelessness.

And this is in reality what the U.S has done!

The U.S. has become a whores forehead, lacking any and all civility toward God and what God has set in order to bless a nation.

Again really think about what goes on in our nation. Look at all the corruptions that go on.

Sexual perversion, Financial perversion, Ethical perversions, Civil perversions, Child rearing perversions, Martial perversions, Educational perversions, the list is endless.

Our nation is severely in distress!

And with a broken man at the helm to boot! And that does nothing but to compound the problems.

And it appears that many here for one reason or another have no true understanding of what causes a nation of people to thrive in a Godly and productive manner.

As best I can tell many exhibit all the signs of an fatalist.

A fatalist is one who believes that if an individual is ran over with a semi truck, then it was meant to be.

No fatalist understands that there are Godly laws and standards that must be adhered to by all, if a nation of people are to flourish.

Even the rankest unbeliever can disbelieve in God. But that disbelief is really not the problem per'se. The problem lies in the fact that they disbelieve in those laws and standards that God sat in the beginning to help all flourish.

What many of them fail to realize is that when one removes God from a society, they are in fact removing the source that created the laws and principles for a society to function to its highest potential for all involved.

And as I have explained before. These are the moral underpinnings that make all the other nuances in a society possible to function.

And as those moral underpinnings are removed, the scales of productivity and civility are tipped in favor of national collapse at every level.

Life is not a game, life is not an accident.

There are forces,{Laws and principles} at work within our nation that are just plain wrong as to the health and well being of the entire populace.

But there is no greater law at work then the law of unbelief, in those laws and principles I have explained.

And the collapse of every civilization can be traced back to these laws and principle I speak of. And the failure to adhere to them.

There has always been disagreement. But disagreement has never in and of itself cause any civilization to fully collapse. Unless the majority within those civilizations disagreed concerning these Godly laws and principles.

Example: What would happen if we completely removed the law against stealing? Look how the entire nation would suffer as a whole from just removing that one standard.

And consider all those principles that are being removed from our society on a daily bases. And we wonder why there is violence?

Cause and effect?

Whats the cause? Broken morals, laws, principles.

Whats the effect? A broken people, a broken nation.

Many of you may fight and squabble about this all you want.

But it is absolutely true!
Grandpa Jones

Bellefontaine, OH

#2 Feb 20, 2013
If you find so much wrong with America, then join NASA and volunteer to be the first implant to Mars. Tired of your complaining and infernal peaching that never makes any sense.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#3 Feb 20, 2013
Grandpa Jones wrote:
If you find so much wrong with America, then join NASA and volunteer to be the first implant to Mars. Tired of your complaining and infernal peaching that never makes any sense.
But it did make enough sense for you to post. Next?
GBA

Westerville, OH

#4 Feb 20, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
But it did make enough sense for you to post. Next?
I'm still waiting for one of your threads to make sense.
animal control

Mount Vernon, OH

#5 Feb 20, 2013

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#6 Feb 20, 2013
GBA wrote:
<quoted text> I'm still waiting for one of your threads to make sense.


Don't hold your breath.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#7 Feb 20, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
But it did make enough sense for you to post. Next?
Not really, but it is so embarassing to watch you post to yourself.
You need a hand puppet.
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#8 Feb 20, 2013
As I consider the totality of all social break downs resident within society at this time.

I am left with the belief that it has been the utter failure of the organized church, that bears most of the responsibility for our nations woes!

Simply put, organized religion has not done its job!

Remember that organized religion and first and foremost the ministers are responsible for setting the moral tone and moral ques for the nation.

And governments job is to see to it that those ques are carried out. Via moral and ethical policies put in place via those bodies that in a sense frame our current nation.

But it becomes clear that the ministers overall have done nothing to call these politicians out, for failing to establish moral and ethical frameworks to help strengthen our nation and the family's in our nation.

As one studies the entire scope and depth of scripture. It becomes apparent that all nations only flourished to the same extent that those men of God held forth and stood on the precepts that God had set. As a means of advancing the nations and its people.

And organized religion is at least indirectly if not directly responsible for the corruption and violence perpetuated thru out society today!

Many blame the politicians wholly, I do not!

One can hardly find a minister anywhere willing to stand for anything decent!

Why is this? Mostly because they were never true ministers to begin with.

They hold very little if any conviction concerning Godly standards. But have rather sold themselves to the political correctness of the day! And the nation is paying for it.

And if the ministers had even an ounce of the convictions that the homosexual agenda has. There would be no SCOTUS decision concerning SSM!

Why do you think the President sold his soul to the homosexual agenda.

Because it carried more influence then organized religion, that's why!

Organized religion has become the laughing stock of the nation.

And one can lay that garland at the feet of the weak ministers!

Ministers that follow this site and sit and say nothing! Oh yes its quite a deal going on.

And when God brings the nation to its knees, you will have the ministers to thank for that!

And these massive ministries headed by these men. Are nothing but feel good sanitarians!

These men do these TV interviews and are asked questions, and they shake in their shoes to give the politically correct answer!

Can you imagine Oprah or Larry King interviewing Jesus? And asking him some Mickey Mouse question about abortion or homosexual adoption or passing out condoms to kids, Ha ha!

Yes folks, our nation is in very very deep distress!

And now you know who is really responsible for it!

And all these political parties are always pushing people to call or write their Representatives in DC.

Don,t write or call your Representatives.

Tell your ministers that, that is their job and hand them the phone!

That's Christian Love!

“ I LOVE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#9 Feb 20, 2013
Pollster wrote:
As I consider the totality of all social break downs resident within society at this time.
I am left with the belief that it has been the utter failure of the organized church, that bears most of the responsibility for our nations woes!
Simply put, organized religion has not done its job!
Remember that organized religion and first and foremost the ministers are responsible for setting the moral tone and moral ques for the nation.
And governments job is to see to it that those ques are carried out. Via moral and ethical policies put in place via those bodies that in a sense frame our current nation.
But it becomes clear that the ministers overall have done nothing to call these politicians out, for failing to establish moral and ethical frameworks to help strengthen our nation and the family's in our nation.
As one studies the entire scope and depth of scripture. It becomes apparent that all nations only flourished to the same extent that those men of God held forth and stood on the precepts that God had set. As a means of advancing the nations and its people.
And organized religion is at least indirectly if not directly responsible for the corruption and violence perpetuated thru out society today!
Many blame the politicians wholly, I do not!
One can hardly find a minister anywhere willing to stand for anything decent!
Why is this? Mostly because they were never true ministers to begin with.
They hold very little if any conviction concerning Godly standards. But have rather sold themselves to the political correctness of the day! And the nation is paying for it.
And if the ministers had even an ounce of the convictions that the homosexual agenda has. There would be no SCOTUS decision concerning SSM!
Why do you think the President sold his soul to the homosexual agenda.
Because it carried more influence then organized religion, that's why!
Organized religion has become the laughing stock of the nation.
And one can lay that garland at the feet of the weak ministers!
Ministers that follow this site and sit and say nothing! Oh yes its quite a deal going on.
And when God brings the nation to its knees, you will have the ministers to thank for that!
And these massive ministries headed by these men. Are nothing but feel good sanitarians!
These men do these TV interviews and are asked questions, and they shake in their shoes to give the politically correct answer!
Can you imagine Oprah or Larry King interviewing Jesus? And asking him some Mickey Mouse question about abortion or homosexual adoption or passing out condoms to kids, Ha ha!
Yes folks, our nation is in very very deep distress!
And now you know who is really responsible for it!
And all these political parties are always pushing people to call or write their Representatives in DC.
Don,t write or call your Representatives.
Tell your ministers that, that is their job and hand them the phone!
That's Christian Love!
Recommended Reading:
"HITLER'S CROSS" by Erwin Lutzer
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#10 Feb 21, 2013
These are stunning revelations concerning the moral decline of our nation.

And look where it is occurring, within organized religion.

I have been thinking about the great amount of evidence concerning the corruptness of the homosexual lifestyle.

What would you do if there was this much evidence concerning a bank robber or a rapist?

I think its a fair question, what would you do?

Would you convict or acquit the perpetrator when you have this much evidence?

I think the answer is obvious to those willing to be honest!

Here is further evidence that all homosexuals have been responsible for the abuse of children within the Catholic church. And as I have shown the church has cleverly tried to blame pedophiles. When in fact the evidence will clearly show the abuse was done at the hands of the homosexuals within the system. And you must remember that all homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia involve male on male sexual conquest. And again the only difference is the age of their victims. But the truth concerning this smokescreen of homosexuals within the church will speak for itself.

Catholic Church's issue is homosexuality, not pedophilia

By: Bill Donohue

Anthony Stevens-Arroyo says I am wrong to challenge elite opinion on the subject of priestly sexual abuse. The conventional wisdom maintains there is a pedophilia crisis in the Catholic Church; I maintain it has been a homosexual crisis all along. The evidence is all on my side, though there is a reluctance to let the data drive the conclusion. But that is a function of politics, not scholarship.

Alfred Kinsey was the first to identify a correlation between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of minors. In 1948, he found that 37 percent of all male homosexuals admitted to having sex with children under 17 years old. More recently, in organs such as the Archives of Sexual Behavior, the Journal of Sex Research, the Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy and Pediatrics, it has been established that homosexuals are disproportionately represented among child molesters.

Correlation is not causation; it is an association. So to say that there is a correlation between homosexual orientation and the sexual abuse of minors is not to say that being a homosexual makes one a molester. Indeed, as I have said many times, most gay priests are not molesters, but most of the molesters have been gay. In other words, although sexual orientation does not cause sexual abuse, the fact that there is a relationship between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of minors cannot be ignored in dealing with this problem.

Think of it this way. We know there is a correlation between being Irish and being an alcoholic, but that doesn't mean all Irishmen are, or will become, alcoholics. But it does mean they have a special problem in this area. Does this now make me anti-Irish?

When the National Review Board released its findings in 2004 regarding priestly sexual abuse, Robert S. Bennett, the noted attorney who headed the study said, "There are no doubt many outstanding priests of a homosexual orientation who live chaste, celibate lives, but any evaluation of the causes and context of the current crisis must be cognizant of the fact that more than 80 percent of the abuse at issue was of a homosexual nature." Were they wrong to draw this conclusion?

Furthermore, the National Review Board explicitly said that "we must call attention to the homosexual behavior that characterized the vast majority of the cases of abuse observed in recent decades.

http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/gue...
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#11 Feb 21, 2013
Yes these words spoken from the lips of a Devil will greatly contribute to the US being brought to its knees.

“Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law,” Mr. Obama famously said in his second Inaugural Address,“for if we are truly created equal, then surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well.”

Now that Mr. Obama has declared that he believes denying gay people the right to wed is not only unfair and morally wrong but also legally unsupportable, the urgent question is how he will translate his words into action. To start, he should have his solicitor general file a brief in the Proposition 8 case being argued before the Supreme Court in March, saying that California’s voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional.

Morally wrong?

To deny a man taking four or five wives, is this also morally wrong?

To deny an incestuous marriage, is this also morally wrong?

Is there any combination of Martial partners that can be deemed unmoral?

Is this the wave of the future, if one does not like something, just redefine it until you do like it?

Should we redefine pedophilia? You may say no based upon age.

Well then, could we at least begin to work on laws to lower the age of consent?

Remember corruptions have to start someplace.

And surly homosexual marriage should at least be enough for others to at least consider this age of consent.

Incestuous marriage? Why not, how is this different then homosexual marriage? They have civil rights to, they claim to love one another to. Why would this be any different then the twisted concept of homosexual marriage? They are not hurting anyone, they pay taxes.

And shouldn't all marriage combinations by entitled to financial gain?

It seems like a reasonable request to game the system. It should be fair for all, and we have plenty of tax money for other countries.

Surly if one supports homosexual marriage, then there can be no honest or logical argument to deny others the same.

And if there is, please state it here?

You cannot have your cake and eat it to.

Either marriage can be redefined for all, or marriage can be redefined for none!

This will not stand in a court of law as the homosexual flood gates are opened.

If homosexuals have a constitutional right to redefine the foundation of marriage, then all have a right to redefine the foundation of marriage.

If homosexual have a right to dishonor their father and mother , then all have a right to dishonor their father and mother.

If homosexuals have a right to be given children based upon perverse sexual identity, then incestuous couples have that right as well.

If Elton John and toy boy can purchase a child and have one created for their pleasure, then incestuous couples have that right as well. And no one has a right to stop them. Remember we are redefining morality. And whats good for the homosexual is good for all.

So you dont like all this redefining? It doesn't matter what you like, people have rights.

If the SCOTUS is willing to redefine what morals are, then you cannot stop all these other marital combinations. And who are you to judge anyway?

Isn't man smarter then God that declared one man and one women?

You know we are pretty smart these days, we do have computers. Surely computers are smarter then God?

And we have nine justices, surely their combined wisdom is smarter then the God that created the heavens and the earth?

There is no doubt whatsoever that Obama is the spokesperson for the entire devil spirit realm.

Remember all nations were led into collapse.

National collapse is never an accident. And at times thru history it took years to bring collapse about.

And since we know that the husband-wife-children have always been the bedrock of all civilizations.

Will Obama the Devils spokesperson be the collapse of this civilization. As he leads the way and poisons all generations for all time?

Jesus Christ

Wellington, OH

#12 Feb 21, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Recommended Reading:
"HITLER'S CROSS" by Erwin Lutzer
Dons an expert on hitler. Where do you think he gets his inspiration from?
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#13 Feb 21, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Recommended Reading:
"HITLER'S CROSS" by Erwin Lutzer
I believe few realize how weak our nation is on every front. And it has been the organized church that has taken us there, and more specifically those copped out ministers.

Yes Don, I would say that the book "HITLER'S CROSS" is an apt description of what has happened.

And I believe if the SCOTUS does redefine our morals. There will be a very accelerated decline within all nuances of our civil society.

Isaiah 30:13 this sin will become for you like a high wall, cracked and bulging, that collapses suddenly, in an instant.

“ I LOVE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#14 Feb 21, 2013
Yes, The US of A will be "brought to its feet. That's the history of the world, the rise & fall of nations. The only question is, WHEN! Maybe soon, maybe not sooo soon. There are some serious
situations facing our country that, if not promptly addressed, could cause our demise:

1. Government debt
2. Moral decay
3. Lack of quality leadership at the federal level
4. Corruption in government from THE COURT HOUSE to THE WHITE HOUSE, in the Congress, & in the COURT SYSTEM
5. Lack of belief in a Supreme Being
6. Break down in the traditional family structure
7. Lack of purpose by many
8. Many no longer consider life sacrosacnt

In spite of these blemishes, THE US of A is still the strongest nation in the world in many ways.

1. Many people have a strong faith
2. On the local level, most governments are responsive to there constituents & the local office holders are, for the most part, servants, not elites.
3. Many people still believe marriage = ONE GUY +
ONE GAL + the KIDDIES & that equals a family that GOD is well pleased with.
4. The US is still the strongest economic & military power in the world-FOR NOW
5. There are still people who vounteer & willingly put their lives at risk on a daily basis to protect our nation & its people.

So, let's work to restore our nation's ideals realizing that "right makes might, & leave the rest to our GOD!
Pollster

Bristolville, OH

#15 Feb 22, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
Yes, The US of A will be "brought to its feet. That's the history of the world, the rise & fall of nations. The only question is, WHEN! Maybe soon, maybe not sooo soon. There are some serious
situations facing our country that, if not promptly addressed, could cause our demise:
1. Government debt
2. Moral decay
3. Lack of quality leadership at the federal level
4. Corruption in government from THE COURT HOUSE to THE WHITE HOUSE, in the Congress, & in the COURT SYSTEM
5. Lack of belief in a Supreme Being
6. Break down in the traditional family structure
7. Lack of purpose by many
8. Many no longer consider life sacrosacnt
In spite of these blemishes, THE US of A is still the strongest nation in the world in many ways.
1. Many people have a strong faith
2. On the local level, most governments are responsive to there constituents & the local office holders are, for the most part, servants, not elites.
3. Many people still believe marriage = ONE GUY +
ONE GAL + the KIDDIES & that equals a family that GOD is well pleased with.
4. Th
I do not believe there is enough good in the nation to overcome all the corruptions.

And especially given the fact that all the nuances that cause nations to flourish are tied directly to its moral underpinnings.

Psalms 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

Simply put, if those moral foundations are destroyed, believers can pray for the nation that has destroyed them until they are blue in the face, all to no avail!

Once a nation reaches a point of no return, Gods says there is no remedy. And suddenly destruction comes without remedy.

2 Chronicles 36:16 But they mocked God's messengers, despised his words and scoffed at his prophets until the wrath of the LORD was aroused against his people and there was no remedy.

This is what has become of our nation.

Proverbs 28:28 When the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding; but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.

This is what is happening in our nation, when the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding.

People go into hiding, they hide out in life, they feed at the had of the wicked. They become unproductive and fail to flourish because the wicked has destroyed their incentive to thrive.

but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.

As the concepts of the wicked begin to perish, begin to die off, the righteous begin to thrive.

Habakkuk 2:7 Will not your debtors suddenly arise? Will they not wake up and make you tremble? Then you will become their victim.

This declaration is interesting given all the borrowing we are doing to stay afloat.

Luke 17:29 but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from the sky, and destroyed them all.

Although homosexuality caused the eventual collapse of Sodom, I believe few realize that there were also many nuances from homosexuality that also greatly contributed to its collapse.

The city was wholly given to corruption. And homosexuality was the vehicle used to move all the other corruption thru out Sodom.

The moral underpinnings were gone.

And I do not believe that it can be overstated what Jesus said concerning those that turn their back on God and scripture.

Matt 10:15 Truly I say to you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Matthew 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

This is stunning!

If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.

What is Jesus talking about?

He is talking about the warning signs of collapse.

The U.S. like Capernaum refuse to heed those warning signs of collapse.

And many can mock all they want, but the mocking will never negate the truth of what scripture is showing.

“ I LOVE LIBERALS”

Since: Sep 11

Bellefontaine, OH

#16 Feb 22, 2013
Pollster wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not believe there is enough good in the nation to overcome all the corruptions.
And especially given the fact that all the nuances that cause nations to flourish are tied directly to its moral underpinnings.
Psalms 11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
Simply put, if those moral foundations are destroyed, believers can pray for the nation that has destroyed them until they are blue in the face, all to no avail!
Once a nation reaches a point of no return, Gods says there is no remedy. And suddenly destruction comes without remedy.
2 Chronicles 36:16 But they mocked God's messengers, despised his words and scoffed at his prophets until the wrath of the LORD was aroused against his people and there was no remedy.
This is what has become of our nation.
Proverbs 28:28 When the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding; but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.
This is what is happening in our nation, when the wicked rise to power, people go into hiding.
People go into hiding, they hide out in life, they feed at the had of the wicked. They become unproductive and fail to flourish because the wicked has destroyed their incentive to thrive.
but when the wicked perish, the righteous thrive.
As the concepts of the wicked begin to perish, begin to die off, the righteous begin to thrive.
Habakkuk 2:7 Will not your debtors suddenly arise? Will they not wake up and make you tremble? Then you will become their victim.
This declaration is interesting given all the borrowing we are doing to stay afloat.
Luke 17:29 but in the day that Lot went out from Sodom, it rained fire and sulfur from the sky, and destroyed them all.
Although homosexuality caused the eventual collapse of Sodom, I believe few realize that there were also many nuances from homosexuality that also greatly contributed to its collapse.
The city was wholly given to corruption. And homosexuality was the vehicle used to move all the other corruption thru out Sodom.
The moral underpinnings were gone.
And I do not believe that it can be overstated what Jesus said concerning those that turn their back on God and scripture.
Matt 10:15 Truly I say to you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Matthew 11:23 And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.
This is stunning!
If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day.
What is Jesus talking about?
He is talking about the warning signs of collapse.
The U.S. like Capernaum refuse to heed those warning signs of collapse.
And many can mock all they want, but the mocking will never negate the truth of what scripture is showing.
Yes, I am fearful that your assessment of the situation is correct!
It will take an act of divine providence to turn things around.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#18 Feb 22, 2013
DON W SOUTH wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I am fearful that your assessment of the situation is correct!
It will take an act of divine providence to turn things around.
You & pollster should just rent a room.

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