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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 169039 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86877 Sep 6, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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I found that if you set several single feeders out instead of those multi feeder the little critters find them and get used to them being there... And you have to keep them with food as if they run out in a few days the birds will stop dropping by the empty ones and can take several days fro them to pass the word around to their buds where the food is...
And to save cash use a mix of 1 part pure cane sugar to 3 parts water instead of that Nectar food they sell... It works just as well... And Never put red food color in it as studies have said it causes the little critters to get cancer....
that was nice of you, and I bet you reward some of your models for your photos by feeding them well. and thanks for sharing the results. much as I oppose you on politics, I still am not hostile to you as I would be to someone who seemed hateful. you seem twisted, without being hateful - maybe by your past. but you should know that you are not given a complete pass when you are so intolerant and spread lies and propaganda like a Donald Trump idiot.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86878 Sep 6, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
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fundies? There is no FUNDAMENTAL difference between a Muslim extremist, a Christian zealot and a political partisan. None of them will stray from self-righteous dogma far enough to stop the chants from echoing between their ears.
what do you mean by a political parisanh? you prefer being a political enuch? with no principles and no policy views? if one is partisan, it can be for the sake of working within a party for one's principles and policy views - not for the sake of blindly following some leader. it is the independents, so called, who are responsible for leaving both parties under control of such a small minority of persons who vote in caucuses and primaries and nominate candidates and write platforms. then the independents whine that they do not like the choices. it is their own damn fault for not participating in the processes of the party they prefer, and not working to reform the processes to make them better - both party processes and campaign and electoral processes.

you ought to be complaining about voter suppression, instead of attacking partisans. you tar both parties with the same brush, and one party is trying to suppress the votes of old and poor and minorities and young people. I am a Democrat who participated in the platform process of my party in the past, and had some influence on a platform plank, to expand the rights of citizens of Washing DC. I worked in primaries and went to caucuses for the ones I thought best within my party.

people who stand aside and complain have no right to complain, if they do not try to make things better.

if you mean by partisans, those who blindly follow - and who are extreme and do not see anything to compromise about or anything or anyone of merit on the other side, then I oppose that. But one can support one party - as I do - and still be interested in some proposals of the most intelligent persons in the other party - Dick Lugar for example, or Chuck Hagel or Jim Leach, and in those persons and others - usually those from the past in the case of the GOP, since the party is mostly dominated by rightwing extremists, of political, religious, and economic varieties, or combos of both. One of my best friends in politics was a Republican Congressman from Maine, and another pal was a GOP Governor, and another the President of the National Young Republicans - but he got thrown out by the Goldwater faction in 1963, when the rightwing began its extremist takeover.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86879 Sep 6, 2012
Yiago wrote:
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Because they wanted a secular government. Duh.
I think that most Democrats support the Constitution - there shall be no religious test for public office - and the first amendment. I suspect most Republicans do not.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#86880 Sep 6, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> so easier is better? like being superstitious is lots easier than being moral, for example. maybe better than making offerings to various gods by murdering people and animals.
Easier in that the law is easier to understand and live by.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86881 Sep 6, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You sir are a liar. Do you hope that people are so stupid that you can say anything and be believed?
Oh, there should be attention to the plight of all people persecuted by your sick cult.
FEAR THAT WE ARE ORGANIZING TO STAND UP AGAINST YOU!BWAHAHAHAHAHA
oh I think he thinks people are that stupid - or else are eviil for disagreeing with him or not believing his nonsense.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#86882 Sep 6, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>So in your interpretation when the bible states (heaven and earth will pass), do you think that means, "Jesus' death/burial/resurrection "? We can come back to the old laws later.
Figurative language, meaning the law will always stand. The removing of one and receiving of another.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86883 Sep 6, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
#86724 reply to a very excellent comment by someone else.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86884 Sep 6, 2012
Ignorance is Dangerous wrote:
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God is Love 1 John 4:8
Matthew 24 heaven an and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away.
you hold the hand of God and do not realize that you also spit in his face at the same time on other posts. The Universe is cruel that's why God is destroying it, to make a Brand New one, read Revelation 21 and 22.
I thought your God made that cruel universe. he did a lousy job, and apparently you admit that.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86885 Sep 6, 2012
Ted wrote:
As a ex-mormon, the mormons believe there are several hierarchies.
They believe blacks are nasty
The prejudice against black persons was a part of the Mormon past. There are lots of secrets in the Mormon faith. We do not know enough about it, or about Romney and what he believes, and would feel he has to do, as a good Mormon. Apparently greed is OK with them.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86886 Sep 6, 2012
Yiago wrote:
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Yeah, exactly. And if you look at all the arguments for the existence of god that Christian Apologists make NONE Of them would mean there is a Christian god, specifically. Even their most treasured argument, the Cosmological Argument, is absolutely neutral on the nature and/or number of gods/beings/creatures/whatsits that could have created the universe.
There is only one certain definition of a god that actually exists, and that is that god is what actually exists. It is just a trick of definition, but it works. anything else is speculation. if a god was promising to make the world better retroactively and all pain and suffering be gone and never have been, that would be the sort of miracle worker I would demand in order to like whatever to like it.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#86887 Sep 6, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text> what do you mean by a political parisanh? you prefer being a political enuch? with no principles and no policy views? if one is partisan, it can be for the sake of working within a party for one's principles and policy views - not for the sake of blindly following some leader. it is the independents, so called, who are responsible for leaving both parties under control of such a small minority of persons who vote in caucuses and primaries and nominate candidates and write platforms. then the independents whine that they do not like the choices. it is their own damn fault for not participating in the processes of the party they prefer, and not working to reform the processes to make them better - both party processes and campaign and electoral processes.
you ought to be complaining about voter suppression, instead of attacking partisans. you tar both parties with the same brush, and one party is trying to suppress the votes of old and poor and minorities and young people. I am a Democrat who participated in the platform process of my party in the past, and had some influence on a platform plank, to expand the rights of citizens of Washing DC. I worked in primaries and went to caucuses for the ones I thought best within my party.
people who stand aside and complain have no right to complain, if they do not try to make things better.
if you mean by partisans, those who blindly follow - and who are extreme and do not see anything to compromise about or anything or anyone of merit on the other side, then I oppose that. But one can support one party - as I do - and still be interested in some proposals of the most intelligent persons in the other party - Dick Lugar for example, or Chuck Hagel or Jim Leach, and in those persons and others - usually those from the past in the case of the GOP, since the party is mostly dominated by rightwing extremists, of political, religious, and economic varieties, or combos of both. One of my best friends in politics was a Republican Congressman from Maine, and another pal was a GOP Governor, and another the President of the National Young Republicans - but he got thrown out by the Goldwater faction in 1963, when the rightwing began its extremist takeover.
Naturally, I refer to someone who would vote for an opposum before they would cross their party line. How would you construe my meaning to be anything else?
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86888 Sep 6, 2012
others wrote:
Many type of people in this world. Those that make you feel worthy and those that live to prove you do wrong. Those that live by their ego's while not caring who's they hurt in return. Those that love and expect nothing in return. Those that try to live right and fall just like all nonperfect bodies we are. Those that think of themselves as perfect and only live for themself's. Which ones are we?
whom they hurt, and themselves - those mistakes seem to indicate that you wrote that comment in your own words. but did you have a source that influenced your thinking? it at least seemed well-meaning. but I would not feel at all sure about the details, or examples, or what else you believe. do we know you under another name? do you comment here often?

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#86889 Sep 6, 2012
know wrote:
1 Corinthians 12:17-20. God has arranged the parts of the body, every one of them, just as He wanted them to be.:-)
He wanted your back to be inefficient at weight bearing? He wanted your sinuses to be oriented so they can't properly drain?

He likes appendixes?

lol
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86890 Sep 6, 2012
Apple At Cha wrote:
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ROFL. For someone who thinks ignorance is dangerous, you display an awfully large amount of it.
1. Wandering eyes doesn't cause marriages to break up. Money Issues and infidelity do. Verifiable fact.
2. Being gay has NO relation to being raised by a mother only. That is also verifiable fact and debunked myth. Gays come from all family types. Looking for a "reason gays exist" to support your belief that single mothers are bad for children is just bupkis.
3. Pushing for one's rights shouldn't be a problem for anyone, UNLESS you want to continue to oppress those persons. Saying gays shouldn't seek equal rights and treatment because it will upset fundamentalists is hilarious. That is like telling a kid to just take it from the bully, because standing up for themselves may just make the bully mad.
Before making blanket characterizations, please do some thoughtful research, because ignorance really is dangerous.
so glad to see your wonderful comment, typical of yours - and rather glad that some idiot makes a comment that provokes your reply! have missed you!
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86891 Sep 6, 2012
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
He wanted your back to be inefficient at weight bearing? He wanted your sinuses to be oriented so they can't properly drain?
He likes appendixes?
lol
noses were made for expensive eyeglasses, and appendixes for surgeons, in order to enrich insurance companies. God is a rightwing GOP operative, you realize.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#86892 Sep 6, 2012
havent forgotten wrote:
<quoted text>The prejudice against black persons was a part of the Mormon past. There are lots of secrets in the Mormon faith. We do not know enough about it, or about Romney and what he believes, and would feel he has to do, as a good Mormon. Apparently greed is OK with them.
A part of the Mormon past? I knew a bookkeeper at a public school in Arizona where the population was largely LDS. She indicated that there was a high degree of racism against Amerindians, African Americans and Hispanics. It was expected that LDS children would receive preferential treatment, that prayer would be held daily and that the elders would dictate school policy.
About 3% of the LDS is African American.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86893 Sep 6, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Naturally, I refer to someone who would vote for an opposum before they would cross their party line. How would you construe my meaning to be anything else?
I did not in your case. That is why I specifically added the section which discussed the sensible sort of partisanship. Sorry if you thought I meant you in particular in my attack on non-participating non-partisan independents. I have been deep into watching the convention and see any comment on politics as an invitation to make the points I want to make. They were not meant as an attack on you, since I generally assume you are rational. Your wording was not quite clear enough, and I objected to that - but I did not assume the worst about you personally. Sorry if my own wording implied that. you are one of the good guys, in general, so far as I have seen.
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86894 Sep 6, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Naturally, I refer to someone who would vote for an opposum before they would cross their party line. How would you construe my meaning to be anything else?
I have seen some cute oppossums! but now, there are very few national level Republicans that are nicer than possums.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#86895 Sep 6, 2012
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
He wanted your back to be inefficient at weight bearing? He wanted your sinuses to be oriented so they can't properly drain?
He likes appendixes?
lol
Back strain and sinus/allergies are proof that man was brought here by aliens from a lower gravity world that didn't have ragweed - plus the appendix has been linked to radiation resistance....
havent forgotten

Lamoni, IA

#86896 Sep 6, 2012
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
fundies? There is no FUNDAMENTAL difference between a Muslim extremist, a Christian zealot and a political partisan. None of them will stray from self-righteous dogma far enough to stop the chants from echoing between their ears.
maybe if you clarified exactly what you mean by a political partisan, I would not see your point as you meant to make it.

Do you think I should vote for anyone who calls himself a Republican when he supports Romney and Ryan and their slanders and lies? I can see not voting for some Democrat who is not good enough, but I cannot see voting for anyone who wears the label of Republican and supports the national ticket. I usually only vote for the ones I am for in my party. In the distant past I voted for halfway decent Republicans in order to defeat bad Democrats for Congress and Senate in Missouri - but that was an extreme situation after a plane crash killed the person actually nominated for the Senate, and after a 5-way primary resulted in the nomination of a rightwing Republican opportunist playboy backed by the Hunt family on the Democratic ticket - back in l976. And at that time, I even asked Bob Dole and David Treen to help good Democrats to defeat our bad Democratic candidates, by helping the nice enough Republican candidate for the House. Dole said, and I quote, of the socalled Democratic House candidate: "He's no Democrat! He raised money for CREEP!" He did not sound very friendly toward CREEP, either! and he was nominated for VP and came back to Mo to campaign for the GOP Congressional candidate.

But now there are so few GOP Congressmen who have any merit, and they would vote to put horrible persons like Issa of California in as Committee Chairman, so I would never vote for a Republican for the House or Senate, and have them support a horrible set of committee chairpersons. That is why people who think they are for Obama should have supported Democrats in 2010, or else they were as good as taking back their support for Obama because he was not a miracle worker. That would be the fault of their extremely stupid expectations, not of Obama or Democrats. The Democrats only had 60 votes in the Senate for 4 months, and that was not long enough to accomplish nearly enough.

Elections have consequences, especially legislative elections. Voting for some person because one thinks he has a nice personality - or she has a nice figure - is stupid. One should know the platform and historical record of one's political party - actually of both of them - in sufficient detail, to prefer one party - unless of course, one is so dumb or lazy or indoctrinated it is not worth the bother to know anything.

So I would want the possum to have a good staff, and a helper when it came time to vote, to push the right button. As Colbert showed with his delightful comic comment, even a horse could say neigh. and the horse would definately have a nicer personality and figure - even than Mr. Brown of Mass.

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