Ruidoso stews over wildlife feeding ban

Ruidoso stews over wildlife feeding ban

There are 18 comments on the KRQE Albuquerque story from Mar 28, 2012, titled Ruidoso stews over wildlife feeding ban. In it, KRQE Albuquerque reports that:

RUIDOSO, N.M. - Wildlife officials and some Ruidoso residents are butting heads over a proposed ordinance that would ban feeding wildlife Deer calmly grazing in someone's yard right next to the roads are lately not an uncommon sight in Ruidoso.

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Jo Bailey

Hobbs, NM

#1 Aug 6, 2012
We were in Ruidoso for four days and the deer look starved and are begging to be fed. Isn't this animal cruelty not to feed them?A lady at the local hardware store told us they didn't sell corn as it was $5,000 fine to feed them and that the deer in Ruidoso are like the rats in New York City. REALLY????
Joe Mama

Ruidoso, NM

#2 Aug 6, 2012
The problem is the digestive systems in deer. They need time to adjust to a change in diet in order to extract the nutrients out of the "food".

Corn does not get processed, just fills their belly and they starve. Sorry for being gross but look in the toilet next time you eat corn and you'll be able to see.
Huh

Ruidoso, NM

#3 Aug 6, 2012
Virtually all the deer in Ruidoso and Alto Proper are urban deer. They were born and raised within the subdivisions and municipal boundaries. Frankly, they are a nuisance and a danger on our road ways. They are underfed because of the drought and over-population for the food availability. They also look bad from significant inbreeding.
Donnie

Alamogordo, NM

#4 Aug 6, 2012
I agree with Huh. The things are nuisance. They also make driving really dangerous all over town but especially in Upper Canyon. They are everywhere, although they tend to head for the hills somewhat when the tourists arrive for the holidays and weekends.
Please do not feed and encourage them.
Well

Greenville, SC

#5 Aug 6, 2012
reallyu?
Well

Greenville, SC

#6 Aug 6, 2012
Yes really!
LibraK

Hobbs, NM

#7 Aug 7, 2012
The price of corn will be so high soon, that even the tourists will not be able to afford it to feed the deer. The deer population is best left to Mother Nature to take care of them (survival of the fittest, etc).
RuiRes

Garland, TX

#8 Aug 7, 2012
It would be much more humane to cull significant numbers of the herd and use them for food. This would significantly improve the health and fitness of those that remain.

This would also reduce the number of accidents that involve deer, so it would reduce the number of calls to the Sheriff / PD about "deer hit by car but still alive and in anguish".
Hogwash

Winslow, AR

#9 Aug 13, 2012
As a 30+ yr resident of Lincoln County I have never heard such hogwash in my life. The deer are semi-domesticated and have been for 30+ years. That is a LOT of generations.
Deer do NOT turn feral in one generation and expecting them to is cruel and abusive.

Most people feed processed deer feed, though it's not unusual to see the odd moron throw out whole and crushed corn - which should never be fed to anything with spots and should only be fed with caution to the older mulies.

So here we have the worst wildfire in Lincoln County history eradicating thousands of acres of natural vegetation that the mule deer could survive on ~ and we are going to throw fines for feeding into the mix.

What kind of idiocy is that?

FEED THE DAMNED DEER.

Feed the right type of food, both Harveys Feed Store and Lincoln County Mercantile sell the correct type of deer feed. Special all purpose licks are also available.

If allowing a wildfire destroy the thousands of acres of natural terrain for elk and deer isn't insult enough, injury is added by this ridiculous no feed ban proposal.

FEED THE DAMNED DEER. The wildlife officials SHOULD be actively seeking to drop food to the mule deer instead of pissing and whining about those who do THEIR JOB!
Animal Lover

Ruidoso, NM

#10 Aug 13, 2012
Hogwash wrote:
As a 30+ yr resident of Lincoln County I have never heard such hogwash in my life. The deer are semi-domesticated and have been for 30+ years. That is a LOT of generations.
Deer do NOT turn feral in one generation and expecting them to is cruel and abusive.
Most people feed processed deer feed, though it's not unusual to see the odd moron throw out whole and crushed corn - which should never be fed to anything with spots and should only be fed with caution to the older mulies.
So here we have the worst wildfire in Lincoln County history eradicating thousands of acres of natural vegetation that the mule deer could survive on ~ and we are going to throw fines for feeding into the mix.
What kind of idiocy is that?
FEED THE DAMNED DEER.
Feed the right type of food, both Harveys Feed Store and Lincoln County Mercantile sell the correct type of deer feed. Special all purpose licks are also available.
If allowing a wildfire destroy the thousands of acres of natural terrain for elk and deer isn't insult enough, injury is added by this ridiculous no feed ban proposal.
FEED THE DAMNED DEER. The wildlife officials SHOULD be actively seeking to drop food to the mule deer instead of pissing and whining about those who do THEIR JOB!
We had a fire that burned 70,000 acres to various degrees. There is more than a half million acres of forest in this area of the Lincoln National Forest. There is more than a Half Million acres of Forest on the adjacent Indian Reservation and hundreds of thousands of acres of adjacent private lands outside of the communities. The animals have already moved to new areas where food and water are in plentiful supply. If only Humans were as smart as to move where the jobs are instead of expecting a turn around when an industry has died or been outsourced.

Do not feed the overly domesticated urban deer. This does not help the wild deer in any way.
Hogwash

Winslow, AR

#11 Aug 13, 2012
<<< overly domesticated urban deer. This does not help the wild deer in any way. >>>

IF they are domesticated. Which they are, and have been for generations through a 30+ year period. They can be no longer regarded as "wild deer" in the truest sense.

They are NOT wild. They will not relocate when food sources are depleted. They will starve.

That is why domestic horses released into the forest will literally starve - because they have no idea how to survive or where to find the food and water they need to survive.

The fact that the wild horses in Alto turned up with more horses, and two burro's, post Little Bear Fire proved beyond a shadow of doubt that the animals are in trouble and it's too late to discuss the merits of feeding or not feeding.
30 years too late.
Ranger Rick

Ruidoso, NM

#12 Aug 14, 2012
Venison has enjoyed a rise in popularity in recent years due to it's lower fat content.
Venison has lower cholesterol, calories and fat that most cuts of corn fed beef, pork and lamb.
Venison can be kosher.
Most venison sold in retail stores is North America comes from New Zealand.
Venison is widely available in European markets traditionally through hunting season.
Herd'em feed'em eat'em
Bona Betit.

“ My body is your temple”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#13 Aug 15, 2012
I am concerned tonight. My tennants rent was sixteen days late. I went to my property and demanded an explanation. A male who I did not know and did not rent to apologized. I asked who he was. He seemed to get nervous. He produced his identification as a Mexican National. I asked for the party that rented my property. This man told me that he was on the way home. I waited not more than five minutes when two cars drove up. One was a buick from the 90's, the other a brand new SUV with tinted windows that I won't identify specifically here. The cardoors opened. 9 people exited the two vehicles. They carried four and five bags from Walmart at one time. I made eye contact with my tennant. I explained to him that I needed the rent money now. He apologized. We'll go get it right now. I felt he planned to take off and not return. I suggested I would follow him to the bank. I was told to go to Walmart. 5 people loaded into the SUV and drove off. I cautiously drove behind them to Walmart. I assumed we were heading in to Wells Fargo. I was incorrect. Four people dispersed in to Walmart and got in line. They made purchases of pepsis, milk duds and gum. The cashier hands them back cash. How is this possible I wonder? What is going on? Who are all of these people and why do they have EBT cards? Why are they able to get cash? If the tennant wasn't my weed connection, I'd be terribly angry at this moment. I have not drank in 78 days. At yet I am so relaxed at the moment that unicorns on puffy, purple clowns are blowing bubbles in my eyes and I can't see the wrong in front me and I don't know how to fix what it is I may have broken in the first place.

“ My body is your temple”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#14 Aug 15, 2012
My thought on this was perhaps we should drug test for those on welfare and foodstamps. And perhaps, yes perhaps, if we want to help those from Mexico who came here fo benefits and not to work like our forefathers, than perhaps we should give them all a deer to take home and breed. And soon their village would have cheese and milk and venison stew. Restaurants would open. Designers across the border would be inspired and deer jeans would quickly become the rage. I think my point is I don't know if I'm comfortable procuring my medicinal marijuana (self medicate) from someone who may be abusing government benefits when so many of my generation are suffering now with little or no benefits. Their prescriptions are not covered by insurance, nor are their conditions. My friend who is 60, with chronic COPD on oxygen for half the day but who is required to work because his disability has been twice denied.
Finally

Albany, CA

#15 Aug 16, 2012
HermanofLC wrote:
My thought on this was perhaps we should drug test for those on welfare and foodstamps. And perhaps, yes perhaps, if we want to help those from Mexico who came here fo benefits and not to work like our forefathers, than perhaps we should give them all a deer to take home and breed. And soon their village would have cheese and milk and venison stew. Restaurants would open. Designers across the border would be inspired and deer jeans would quickly become the rage. I think my point is I don't know if I'm comfortable procuring my medicinal marijuana (self medicate) from someone who may be abusing government benefits when so many of my generation are suffering now with little or no benefits. Their prescriptions are not covered by insurance, nor are their conditions. My friend who is 60, with chronic COPD on oxygen for half the day but who is required to work because his disability has been twice denied.
Welcome back------ you have been missed!
Rate Payer

Biloxi, MS

#16 Aug 16, 2012
LibraK wrote:
The price of corn will be so high soon, that even the tourists will not be able to afford it to feed the deer. The deer population is best left to Mother Nature to take care of them (survival of the fittest, etc).
We need the corn to make gas from .I need a large car so my legs can stretch out!
no name please

Alto, NM

#17 Aug 17, 2012
I currently work at Walmart.
I am on Foodstamps, so are over half of the people who come through my line.
A high number of customers using American EBT cards are Mexican Nationals.
I wish I knew how they did it. I get $88 a month in Foodstamps, am an American Citizen and salivate over the delicious cuisine that comes sliding across my belt and racked up on the EBT. Steaks, sausage, snickers, ice cream, cakes, fancy cheeses, potato chips, cases of coke. And many of these people are able to get CASH back off their EBT which means they are getting welfare too. I hand them the $40. They put two cases of budlight on the conveyor. MY tax dollars at work. Your tax dollars at work. If we cut out all of the fraud and took the benefits away from those who are not entitled, I would estimate we would have a cash surplus.
I use my EBT card for generic pastas, lettuce, generic green beans and as a rare treat,a pack of 80% fat hamburger to stretch out with bread crumbs and crackers.
Land of Not Plenty

Ruidoso, NM

#18 Aug 17, 2012
Ranger Rick wrote:
Venison has enjoyed a rise in popularity in recent years due to it's lower fat content.
Venison has lower cholesterol, calories and fat that most cuts of corn fed beef, pork and lamb.
Venison can be kosher.
Most venison sold in retail stores is North America comes from New Zealand.
Venison is widely available in European markets traditionally through hunting season.
Herd'em feed'em eat'em
Bona Betit.
Wishful thinking Rick. We cannot even get fresh lettuce here. Fresh venison will not be on the market anytime soon.

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