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Ghost of Juan Onate

Phoenix, AZ

#21 May 28, 2012
factoid wrote:
Hell ya. If I accidentally shot my nephew and called my uncle the cop instead of 911, we'd all be in jail. but then we're hispanic and not lily white with crystal blue eyes.
Hispanics can have white skin and blue eyes too, facttard
taxpayer

Mayhill, NM

#22 May 29, 2012
Fire season is on us. With the revelation Vincent and his father in law were related to and knew the identities of the alleged firestarters; his creditability to lead the Ruidoso fire Department is absolutely zero. If the interim fire chief covered up the origin of the fire to protect his family, he is a criminal. Regardless, with the new revelations, he has no business serving as interim chief; emergency manager or fireman. Put him on leave without pay immediately until he is cleared or indicted.
Ruidoso Insider

Ruidoso, NM

#23 May 29, 2012
taxpayer wrote:
Fire season is on us. With the revelation Vincent and his father in law were related to and knew the identities of the alleged firestarters; his creditability to lead the Ruidoso fire Department is absolutely zero. If the interim fire chief covered up the origin of the fire to protect his family, he is a criminal. Regardless, with the new revelations, he has no business serving as interim chief; emergency manager or fireman. Put him on leave without pay immediately until he is cleared or indicted.
Mr.Vincent knew from day one that it was his nephew that is exactly why he has remained silent about what really happened at the fire scene. Let us not forget that he has hidden this information from the residents for OVER ONE YEAR.
More Questions

Mountain View, CA

#24 May 30, 2012
Wonder how much this investigation cost and if the Village has to pay since it was their responsibility to handle this and in their jurisdiction. Finally saw interim chief Vincent admit the oldest boy is his nephew on TV last night. Seems that the local press doesn't think the relationship between Vincent and one of the accused ( who has plead not guilty) is important. I guess neither paper will publish the rest of the investigation report.
There may not be much more to this story but, IMO, the Village of Ruidoso authorities would have had more credibility if Vincent would have officially recused himself from the beginning and the Village worked with the Feds on this investigation. Maybe more details will emerge from the trial if the papers decide to do a thorough coverage.
We agree

Ruidoso, NM

#25 May 30, 2012
Gilbert Foley wrote:
<quoted text>Excellent question. If one of them was the grandson of White and was visiting there, how did he leave the scene?
When an investigation goes on for over a year and then reveals that the culprits were known from about the third day, one must wonder why the information wasn't made public. Why the delay?
How did the delay benefit certain parties?
One last note:
Fire Harlan and any others in cahoots with this cover up
Debi Lee should be investigated for covering up.
Harlan Vincent should be investigated for covering up.
The Mayor should be investigated for covering up.
And lets not forget the council members who, while they may not have deliberately covered up they remained silent.
Remember how Debi Lee praised Harlen Vincent on quick containment of the fire behind K BOB'S? Harlen was out of town, and it was the forestry commander that should have gotten the credit!
What it is going to take for the taxpayers to realize this incompetent, sneaky, less than honest woman is not doing the the right thing for the Village citizens?
We should all contact the State Attorney General and the Governors office and demand a full investigation of these people!
Enough is enough!!!!!!!!

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revelation

Ruidoso, NM

#26 May 30, 2012
taxpayer wrote:
Fire season is on us. With the revelation Vincent and his father in law were related to and knew the identities of the alleged firestarters; his creditability to lead the Ruidoso fire Department is absolutely zero. If the interim fire chief covered up the origin of the fire to protect his family, he is a criminal. Regardless, with the new revelations, he has no business serving as interim chief; emergency manager or fireman. Put him on leave without pay immediately until he is cleared or indicted.
How do I find the news video that interim fire chief was on last night?
resident

Ruidoso, NM

#27 May 30, 2012
revelation wrote:
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How do I find the news video that interim fire chief was on last night?
http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/wildfires/teens-...
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#28 May 30, 2012
resident wrote:
How is it rumor that White called Vincent, not 911 first? That was in White's statement printed in the paper. Vincent's statement was that he called the fire in on arrival. So now his bosses know he is a liar.
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#29 May 30, 2012
"White said he and his wife had attended church Sunday morning and then went to lunch at a local steakhouse.
When the couple arrived home, White observed a ground fire covering a space about 60 or 70 feet wide several dozen yards behind his fence line. Rather than dial 911, White said he immediately called his son-in-law, acting Ruidoso fire chief Harlan Vincent, who had a pumper dispatched."
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/05239250...

Somehow that doesn't sound like a rumor.
Michael Morris

Tularosa, NM

#30 May 30, 2012
Another thing. The White Fire started on April 3, yet it was not until April 6th that a determination of human caused was returned. That doesn't sound very forthcoming.

The interview is a must watch. He seems uneasy. Is he usually that stupid sounding? Or was it just the nerves?
Part-time Resident

Sacramento, CA

#31 May 30, 2012
Michael Morris wrote:
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How is it rumor that White called Vincent, not 911 first? That was in White's statement printed in the paper. Vincent's statement was that he called the fire in on arrival. So now his bosses know he is a liar.
If Vincent wants to clear his name, he should have his father-in-law release his phone records for the day in question. Vincent should then have the Village Police Department/Fire Department mobile radio records released for the same period of time as well as his own cell phone records. Vincent's cell phone records are public record because it is paid for by the taxpayers in the Village of Ruidoso. The public will be outraged and astonished as to what they hear on these recordings. Any good investigator would have already subpoenaed these recordings from the Village and Mr. White would have discussed the relevance and contradictions of these records in the investigative report.
What happened to the dress code at the Village Fire Department with all the firefighters now wearing beards? What a bunch of hillbillies. Vincent could not look more unprofessional as an interim fire chief. It is indicative of how the professional standards of this Department have lapsed since the last Fire Chief was let go.

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Keep your Distance

Concord, CA

#32 May 31, 2012
Michael Morris wrote:
Another thing. The White Fire started on April 3, yet it was not until April 6th that a determination of human caused was returned. That doesn't sound very forthcoming.
The interview is a must watch. He seems uneasy. Is he usually that stupid sounding? Or was it just the nerves?
My favorite part was watching Interim Chief Vincent refer to his nephew as his "father-in-law's grandson" after. Reporter asked Vincent if one of the boys was his nephew and he said "yes, he his my father-in-law's grandson". Vincent never did use the "n" (nephew) word.

Since: Jul 11

Ruidoso NM

#33 May 31, 2012
Keep your Distance wrote:
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My favorite part was watching Interim Chief Vincent refer to his nephew as his "father-in-law's grandson" after. Reporter asked Vincent if one of the boys was his nephew and he said "yes, he his my father-in-law's grandson". Vincent never did use the "n" (nephew) word.
He came across as a giant illiterate oaf. He didn't even make sense. How embarrassing for Ruidoso.
Blue Ridge Boy

Carlsbad, NM

#34 May 31, 2012
Michael Morris wrote:
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How is it rumor that White called Vincent, not 911 first? That was in White's statement printed in the paper. Vincent's statement was that he called the fire in on arrivals bosses know he is a liar.
Been reading about this idiot for a long time now, only because I own a cabin in Ruidoso. Give him a broom and have him sweeping streets come Monday morning.
disgusted

Ruidoso, NM

#35 May 31, 2012
We agree wrote:
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Debi Lee should be investigated for covering up.
Harlan Vincent should be investigated for covering up.
The Mayor should be investigated for covering up.
And lets not forget the council members who, while they may not have deliberately covered up they remained silent.
Remember how Debi Lee praised Harlen Vincent on quick containment of the fire behind K BOB'S? Harlen was out of town, and it was the forestry commander that should have gotten the credit!
What it is going to take for the taxpayers to realize this incompetent, sneaky, less than honest woman is not doing the the right thing for the Village citizens?
We should all contact the State Attorney General and the Governors office and demand a full investigation of these people!
Enough is enough!!!!!!!!
Give us the names and the phone numbers who we need to contact!!!
Village resident

Ruidoso, NM

#36 May 31, 2012
Part-time Resident wrote:
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If Vincent wants to clear his name, he should have his father-in-law release his phone records for the day in question. Vincent should then have the Village Police Department/Fire Department mobile radio records released for the same period of time as well as his own cell phone records. Vincent's cell phone records are public record because it is paid for by the taxpayers in the Village of Ruidoso. The public will be outraged and astonished as to what they hear on these recordings. Any good investigator would have already subpoenaed these recordings from the Village and Mr. White would have discussed the relevance and contradictions of these records in the investigative report.
What happened to the dress code at the Village Fire Department with all the firefighters now wearing beards? What a bunch of hillbillies. Vincent could not look more unprofessional as an interim fire chief. It is indicative of how the professional standards of this Department have lapsed since the last Fire Chief was let go.
Mr. Vincent you have TARNISHED your badge.
Blue Ridge Boy

Carlsbad, NM

#37 May 31, 2012
Blue Ridge Boy wrote:
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Been reading about this idiot for a long time now, only because I own a cabin in Ruidoso. Give him a broom and have him sweeping streets come Monday morning.
Forgot. Perhaps his country boy relatives within the fire department can hold his dust pail. What in the hell is occuring in Ruidoso...
Jack Heroff

Phoenix, AZ

#38 Jun 1, 2012
Blue Ridge Boy wrote:
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Forgot. Perhaps his country boy relatives within the fire department can hold his dust pail. What in the hell is occuring in Ruidoso...
. That whole clan needs to pack their bags and trailers up and move out of Ruidoso or better yet NM. WV or KY seem like good places to start over.
Pants on fire

Concord, CA

#39 Jun 1, 2012
Michael Morris wrote:
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How is it rumor that White called Vincent, not 911 first? That was in White's statement printed in the paper. Vincent's statement was that he called the fire in on arrival. So now his bosses know he is a liar.
Both Mayor Alborn and Manager Lee got their BS from Texas. It seems in Texas one is not criticized for BS but rather graded on it! None of them are very good at telling the truth. Guess that is why the Village is not addressing any issues regarding their fire.
village employee

Ruidoso, NM

#40 Jun 1, 2012
Pants on fire wrote:
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Both Mayor Alborn and Manager Lee got their BS from Texas. It seems in Texas one is not criticized for BS but rather graded on it! None of them are very good at telling the truth. Guess that is why the Village is not addressing any issues regarding their fire.
Hey...where are you Mr. Alborn and DL? Why are you not speaking up regarding the White Fire? I do recall you saying you support Mr. Vincent 100%.

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