Pearce cuts funding, then blames Forest Service

There are 9 comments on the Jul 15, 2012, Las Cruces Sun-News story titled Pearce cuts funding, then blames Forest Service. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

The Whitewater-Baldy Fire in the Gila Wilderness is the largest wildfire in New Mexico's history and the Little Bear Fire near Ruidoso is the more expensive and tragic, causing well over 200 homes to be lost and one lost life was attributed to the fire.

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oladcock

Rio Rancho, NM

#1 Jul 15, 2012
Government at any level shouldn't be in the landlord business to start with. How many millions/billons have we spent? What good did it do?...O.L.
sneaky snake

United States

#2 Jul 16, 2012
Finally-someone exposed the real reason our forests are burning- Pearce is using this issue as a leg up for his re-election, while voting against appropriating any money for not only the forest service but all government programs HE deems not needed. True definition of a tea party candidate-stifle governent- make room for the big corporations to rape and pilage America. Don't you think "oily" Pearce would love to drill in the forest if he could......????
So the meager amount appropriated to the forest service can be used for for forest thinning or for fighting the massive fires.... they don't have enough money for both -oh yes- those brave firefighters who save our towns and put their lies on the line......have no insurance for themselves or their families......and Pearce is trying to cut their wages and jobs even more.....wow....what a guy!!!!
JMM

Ruidoso, NM

#3 Jul 16, 2012
It is terribly sad to this turn into a partisan-political issue when all, regardless of political persuasion, have been impacted by this fire: this nation is at risk of losing its forested land to wildfire.

Since it seems that the only thing Democrats understand is passing blame, then I'll play along and ask some questions.

If Republicans like Pearce are so evil and cut the USFS at every chance (they don't), then why didn't the Democrat-controlled Senate/House take action from 2007-2008? And when Obama took office in 2009, why didn't the Democrat-controlled Presidency, House, Senate, pass the "Save Our Forests from Evil Republicans" legislation in the dead of night?

Did you know that President Bush actually increased the USFS wildfire budget? USA Today on Feb 13, 2008, quoted Rep. Norm Dicks (D-Wash) on Bush cutting the USFS budget, "The only bright spot in the budget was a request to increase spending to fight wildfires by about $148 million to just under $1 billion, Dicks said."

Did you know that the Democrat-controlled Senate (Reid D-Nevada) has not passed a budget for almost 3.2 years? It's their constitutional duty.

Finally, about the USFS thinning fuel-laden forests: it would require thinning 10M acres per-year just to save 1/2 of the forests from being turned into moonscapes. Only 2-3M acres are currently being treated per-year.

http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/03/31/usfs-c...

Although it would have moved at a snails pace, the USFS would have started fuel treatments around Bonito Lake had environmentalists not sued and delayed the project for a year. The environmentalists need to be sued and their lawyer-heavy organizations crushed by "we the people" who pay their legal bills.
Bamboozled

Alto, NM

#4 Jul 16, 2012
No, thinning programs, which would be responsible forest management and would not involve clear-cutting, have been halted by numerous and frivolous lawsuits filed by various environmental groups. The Forest Service gets tied up in courts.

Well, this is what you get: Through massive fires, Nature will thin the forests for you.
Economic Reality

Ruidoso, NM

#5 Jul 16, 2012
Bamboozled wrote:
No, thinning programs, which would be responsible forest management and would not involve clear-cutting, have been halted by numerous and frivolous lawsuits filed by various environmental groups. The Forest Service gets tied up in courts.
Well, this is what you get: Through massive fires, Nature will thin the forests for you.
To some degree. However, a more important factor is the lack of national and/or a global demand for wood fiber. There is simply no use for the huge volume of trees that need to be cut and it would cost more to cut these trees on a large scale basis than what they are worth. Sadly, we actually import lumber now from other countries because it is far cheaper to do so. Furthermore, we are using more alternative building materials such as metal, steel and synthetic products to build our homes. The mills have all closed. The USFS has a very complicated mission at present, more so than any time in its history. Do not worry however, perhaps Dr. Vincent and his friends at the RDFD will come up with a solution to this problem so we will not have any more fires.
home skooled

Ruidoso, NM

#6 Jul 16, 2012
JMM
You sure about that link, because and I quote

"Climate change, Tidwell said, is “one of the major drivers” in drying overgrown forests drying and make them susceptible to insect attack, with 17 million acres of pine forest across the interior West dead or dying due to bark beetles."

Climate change is code word for "Global Warming" and we all know that there ain't no such thing as global warming, that is just one of them liberal socialist commie nazi propaganda BS lies to raise taxes on the rich.
Forester

Ruidoso, NM

#7 Jul 16, 2012
Economic Reality wrote:
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To some degree. However, a more important factor is the lack of national and/or a global demand for wood fiber. There is simply no use for the huge volume of trees that need to be cut and it would cost more to cut these trees on a large scale basis than what they are worth. Sadly, we actually import lumber now from other countries because it is far cheaper to do so. Furthermore, we are using more alternative building materials such as metal, steel and synthetic products to build our homes. The mills have all closed. The USFS has a very complicated mission at present, more so than any time in its history. Do not worry however, perhaps Dr. Vincent and his friends at the RDFD will come up with a solution to this problem so we will not have any more fires.
You are correct. It is a fact that just the wood fiber available to the US from our southeastern states, especially southern pine, is more than adequate to meet our national demands at present, without additional tree volume from the west. We are talking about the millions of acres of tree plantations/farms that are grown practically overnight in eight of our SE states.
Question

Ruidoso, NM

#8 Jul 16, 2012
Economic Reality wrote:
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To some degree. However, a more important factor is the lack of national and/or a global demand for wood fiber. There is simply no use for the huge volume of trees that need to be cut and it would cost more to cut these trees on a large scale basis than what they are worth. Sadly, we actually import lumber now from other countries because it is far cheaper to do so. Furthermore, we are using more alternative building materials such as metal, steel and synthetic products to build our homes. The mills have all closed. The USFS has a very complicated mission at present, more so than any time in its history. Do not worry however, perhaps Dr. Vincent and his friends at the RDFD will come up with a solution to this problem so we will not have any more fires.
Where are the new homes being built? I did not know anyone was still building new homes.
JMM

Ruidoso, NM

#9 Jul 16, 2012
home skooled wrote:
JMM
You sure about that link, because and I quote
"Climate change, Tidwell said, is “one of the major drivers” in drying overgrown forests drying and make them susceptible to insect attack, with 17 million acres of pine forest across the interior West dead or dying due to bark beetles."
Climate change is code word for "Global Warming" and we all know that there ain't no such thing as global warming, that is just one of them liberal socialist commie nazi propaganda BS lies to raise taxes on the rich.
The referenced quote above is from USFS Chief Tidwell. However, in the referenced article, did you not read the response to Tidwell's Global Warming assertion? I'll include it below:

"Although there was the obligate genuflection to global warming now required of all bureaucrats, the real cause of our forest fire crisis is fuel build up. Forest fires burn in forests from the Amazon to Alaska, across every climate zone. Temperature is not the driver; fuel is. A one or two degree difference in temperature makes little difference, whereas the accumulated fuels of decades of untouched growth make a huge difference in the likelihood, intensity, and severity of fires."

http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/03/31/usfs-c...

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