Ferndale couple accused of kidnapping, extortion

Mar 19, 2008 Full story: www.dailytribune.com 282

James Chapman knew something was wrong when his brother phoned in the middle of the night, claiming he was in trouble and needed money.

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timebomb

Madison Heights, MI

#1 Mar 19, 2008
well what can i say except for I know the woman very well, she is my cousin. she did the same thing (claiming to be pregnant and extorting money) to a friend of the family less than a year ago and he was so terrified by her behavior that he gave her the money. I think there are some DEEP-SEEDED mental issues that she has had for a long time and it's really sad that it turned out like this but at least she has finally been exposed for the damages she is capable of and hopefully this horrific occurance NEVER happens again. I really feel for the man they kidnapped. I know she's scary and I can just imagine what he must have been going through. Thank god he's ok. and over what...$500? rediculous..
mumz

United States

#3 Mar 20, 2008
Does any one know this girl Holly Patterson?
I wonder if any one else has had any problems?
How sick is this girl?
If you have had problems please POST them.
I have lots of ?'s I need answered.

Since: Mar 08

United States

#4 Mar 20, 2008

Holly Patterson!!!!!!!!!!
Please post if you have any information about this sick girl.

I wonder if any one else has had problems.
I have lots of ?'s please post your commets.

Since: Mar 08

Flushing, MI

#6 Mar 20, 2008
Well what can i say but her new boyfriend is my COUSIN. Now hes sitting in jail. Because of her deep-seeted metal issues. This has caused Havoc in our family. Can you HELP me scott or scubascott@comcast.net (net)
timebomb

Madison Heights, MI

#8 Mar 21, 2008
the whole o.d thing ALWAYS struck me as susupicious. and she was messed up way before all that happened...TRUST ME. Her M.O. has always been "who can I get money for and how can I do it." anything. you name it. Like I said, it doesn't surprise me. She told everyone in the family that he died of an athsma attack. I am not even afraid to admit that I believe she had something to do w/that death. She didn't seem too distraught when she was spending the insurance money on trips to go see other men. His death occured about a year after they actually got married btw...it wasn't like they had been married for 50 years. she has done some really "shitty" things to the people in her life and I can't help but say "karma's a bitch" I hope she gets the help she needs and hopefully they don't let her out right away. and I hate to say it but her accomplist has his own mind (unless she had a gun to his head) so it takes two FUCKED up people to do a fucked up thing like that. But I would definately agree that she has needed help for years. I have told her that in person but normally when you're crazy, you don't like people telling you you're crazy, am I right? So rediculous!!! I just wonder how many other people she has pulled this "abortion" scam on. It's kinda funny since as far as I can remember, she has been telling people she "can't have kids" I hope they investigate DEEPLY!!
timebomb

Madison Heights, MI

#9 Mar 21, 2008
btw...for $500 dollars? I have a hard time believing that it's not drug related. who goes to such extreme measures for $500 dollars?
brerrabbit

Royal Oak, MI

#10 Mar 21, 2008
This man is my cousin, and unlike Holly, he does not suffer from mental issues. He is a good man who just wanted someone to love and love him back. I really don't think he knew what he was getting with Holly.She came into his life like the slithering vermin she is. She exploited his relationship with her. Who is to say she didn't use force or black-mail with him. I know my cousin, and there is NO WAY he would have agreed to this in his right mind. She was the maestro of this whole scam. My cousin is sitting in jail now because of her mental disease. I know my cousin has his own mind, but I can't help but feel she altered him in some way. I too wonder about the true cause of Scott's death.
Please, if anyone knows something that may be helpful to my cousin, please come forward.
John

Madison Heights, MI

#12 Mar 21, 2008
Sure is alot of 'Holly-bashing" going on here, but I will say this....It DOES take two to tango. Holly and I have been friends for a long time. I had just talked to her saturday afternoon. she wasnt acting crazy or weird or anything. I am VERY upset by all this. I just cant believe that someone that I'm this close to is capable of this much evil. There MUST be more to this story. and for those that are starting to question Scotts death....you are WAY off! She loved him VERY much. they were soul mates, and best friends. she never got over the hurt. Shes been so lost since he died. This WAS a terrible thing that they did. and Im sick over it. disgusted. shocked and confused. but dont go taking her life apart to try to figure shit out and try to finger Scotts death on her. thats just WRONG!! this was a fucked up thing, and it took two fucked up people to do it. I will pray for all involved.
x class mate

Royal Oak, MI

#13 Mar 21, 2008
yes holly has mental issues. no she did not kill scott. scott was a good guy with demons of his own(drugs). she is lazy and has been a scammer her whole life. She has slept with thousands of men. she has sold her body to pay her rent. i feel bad for the new boyfriend. he never knew what hit him. but he could of said no. we who have known holly along time have distanced ourselfs from her for a reason.
x class mate

Royal Oak, MI

#15 Mar 21, 2008
i've known holly since she was 15. scott was a good friend. no sour grape. no she did not walk the street hooking. when she was short on rent in leiu of cash she did favors for the landlord. this was in the last couple of years. just a fact.
timebomb

Madison Heights, MI

#16 Mar 21, 2008
well for those of us who "doubt that she prostituted herself" and all the other things she is "just not capapble of doing", did you honestly think that she could VIOLENTLY kidnap somebody and hold his life for the randsom of $500 dollars? and I am sorry for the person who's cousin is involved in this, but I do believe from the reports I have read on the matter that he was the one who "threatened to dump his body in the woods" and violently attacked the dude. If someone is THAT insecure about themselves that they need to do something that terrible to "prove their love for someone" than I am sorry but they get what they deserve because that's just idiotic. As for holly, she has stolen property from her family, lied and backstabbed and manipulated for AS LONG AS I CAN REMEBEMER. and if you don't know this, then consider yourself lucky that she didn't get to you. I am not ashamed to be saying this even though I am related. she has done hateful things, threatened to come over "AND KILL" my mother over an e-bay transaction (yes we had her on the answering machine saying this) She has always been scary and you can't put ANYTHING past her. sorry, but true. she is a wolf is sheeps clothing and will have you beleiving ANYTHING, if you're that gullible. I know it might seem like I'm bashing but ITS THE TRUTH!!!! like it or not. innocent, sane people don't end up where she is right now.

Since: Mar 08

United States

#17 Mar 21, 2008
maestro48239 wrote:
well...this is all pretty disturbing, and all new to me, it shows how little you really know some people. like I said, i knew she was a bit off, but luckily i wasnt around all that much and never got pulled in.
You are very lucky,that is for sure! Did you work with her? How did you know her?

Since: Mar 08

Flushing, MI

#19 Mar 22, 2008
I would like to say thanks to everyone that has posted a comment. Louis is my cousin and best friend he is a careing and loveing person. I have never seen him in a fight or anything like that. I know he was lonely and lookin for love. He hasnt dated in about eight years. When he met Holly on myspace and he knew of her from school.I also cant understand how this happen? I think my cousin was varnable and Holly could see that? After reading some of these comments. I think she may have traped him in one of her plots? Im not saying what my cousin did was right. It was wrong really WRONG. Our family is SORRY for what happen to Mr Chapman and his family
old friend of Lou

Golden, CO

#20 Mar 22, 2008
I don't know how this could have happened. I used to be one of Louis' closest friends and spent a lot of time with him. I can attest to his character in saying that I cannot believe that he could be capable of these horrible crimes. He is a kind, artistic person with a great sense of humor. I went to school with this Holly person and have always heard horrible things about her. She MUST have had something on Lou. There's way more to this story. My prayers are with Lou, his wonderful mother and the rest of the family.
Aunt of Louis

Cincinnati, OH

#21 Mar 22, 2008
I too don't know how this could have happened. I have known Louis since he was born and this was totally out of character for him. He has always been a very gentle and kind young man. We are all in shock. I agree that there is more to this story than what we are hearing. I am not saying what he did is right, but there had to be something more that would have caused him to do what he did. It is so not Louis to do something like that. Our prayers are with him. Mr. Chapman, I would like to express how sorry I am that this happened to you.
Brother of Matt

West Bloomfield, MI

#22 Mar 23, 2008
I have read all of the comments and am glad that there is a consensus that what happened was wrong. I am the brother who got the ransom call. I knew Holly from the past as well, but hadn't seen or talked to her in many years. This whole debacle should have never happened. I don't know Mr. Cotoio, but I will pray for him. It sounds like he may need lots of help, like Holly. Not to say that I am still not extremely angered by what they did to my brother, because I am, and I feel that they both need to face the consequenses of their actions. Knowing Holly, she definitely would have lied and manipulated to get what she wanted done. My family and friends are still in disbelief over this incedent. My wife is afraid to be at home alone and I will have to move now in order to try and alleviate some of her anxiety. I have just now started to feel normal and sleep better. As for my brother, Matt, he will never be the same after this. I've talked to him at length about what happened. It was a truly terrifying and painful experience for him. Feeling helpless, thinking about his family when he thought he was going to die, and the mental and physical anguish he suffered will be with him for the rest of his life. To those of you who have expressed your appologies, concern, and kind words, thank you.
Government Foe

Madison Heights, MI

#24 Mar 23, 2008
maestro48239 wrote:
I guess this just goes to show me, that I well as I think I know people, sometimes, I really have no clue.
And in MANY cases, spouses don't even know each other. Yet many seem to marry so young and claim to know who that person is, which is their biggest mistake.

Since: Mar 08

Royal Oak

#25 Mar 23, 2008
I have known Holly for over ten years, yet we have not been active friends since around 1996-97. Our estrangement was purely my doing, as I found her to be juvenile and extremely high-drama. Holly was the kind of person who was a classic enabler personality, and consistently lived vicariously through the lives of others, for example: When we were in our twenties,a former classmate of ours died and Holly hardly knew the guy well. Anyway, she was inappropriately distraught, went to the funeral, called a bunch of people talking about "
\how/when the person died, etc. By the way she acted, you would have thought she was best friends with the guy.
Some years after our friendship dissolved, she managed to find me on the internet. She was just planning to marry Scott, making arrangements for the weddings. I hadn't talked to her in several years and via the internet (after I didn't respond to her emails, even) she invites me to her wedding! She was desperate for friends: you can imagine the high rate of friend turnover in her life. When I heard about the crime, it didn't surprise me that Holly had it in her to do such a thing.
I have also known Louis for a very long time - Louis was a guest at my brother's wedding. The Louie I know is an intelligent kind, sweet, mild person. It was mind-boggling to me that he was involved with someone like Holly to begin with. Never in a million years could I fathom he would commit a crime. If somewhere were to ask me if Louis could hurt anyone, I would never imagine he could.
I'm a mom, too. I can only imagine the heartache and pain you are going through. I'll pray for you. Please call on me if you think that I could help you further.

Best of luck to you and Louie.
mumz wrote:
Does any one know this girl Holly Patterson?
I wonder if any one else has had any problems?
How sick is this girl?
If you have had problems please POST them.
I have lots of ?'s I need answered.

Since: Mar 08

Royal Oak

#26 Mar 23, 2008
Brother of Matt wrote:
I have read all of the comments and am glad that there is a consensus that what happened was wrong. I am the brother who got the ransom call. I knew Holly from the past as well, but hadn't seen or talked to her in many years. This whole debacle should have never happened. I don't know Mr. Cotoio, but I will pray for him. It sounds like he may need lots of help, like Holly. Not to say that I am still not extremely angered by what they did to my brother, because I am, and I feel that they both need to face the consequenses of their actions. Knowing Holly, she definitely would have lied and manipulated to get what she wanted done. My family and friends are still in disbelief over this incedent. My wife is afraid to be at home alone and I will have to move now in order to try and alleviate some of her anxiety. I have just now started to feel normal and sleep better. As for my brother, Matt, he will never be the same after this. I've talked to him at length about what happened. It was a truly terrifying and painful experience for him. Feeling helpless, thinking about his family when he thought he was going to die, and the mental and physical anguish he suffered will be with him for the rest of his life. To those of you who have expressed your appologies, concern, and kind words, thank you.
I offer my sympathy to you and your family at this time. This type of thing is a terrible event to live through. I was kidnapped on a trip to Mexico by armed gunmen who were either police or pretending to be (this is a very common event in Mexico - beware!)and they drove me and my male companion into the wilderness. Eventually they let us go, but it was a terrifying experience. I know EXACTLY what your brother is going though, and your wife as well. This experience wormed its way into many facets of my life, until I had the courage to get help. I was diagnosed with classic post-traumatic-stress-disorder (ptsd). I urge you and your family to take care of your emotional health as quickly as possible and DO NOT try to rationalize that you will 'get over it'. That was my mistake and I lived with a lot of anxiety and fear that could have been controlled much better. Get some help ASAP!
I wish you and your family the best of luck.
Aunt to Louis

Pinckney, MI

#27 Mar 24, 2008
Love is blind and in this instance, it certainly was. Louis is a kind, intelligent, extremely sensitive and talented artist. He is also loyal and loving. It is incomprehensible that he would be involved in such a bizarre situation. How could this happen? Louis has lost the sight in one eye and is having difficulty with his other eye. How will he survive in prison? How could 39 years of doing the right thing, living a good life, be blown away so swiftly. Both he and his poor devastated mother are in my thought con-stantly. We all feel helpless to help him in any meaningfull way. He needs a good attorney who can help him, maybe get some of these charges dropped or at least reduced. He does not deserve to spend the rest of his life in jail. What a heartbreaking situation. My sympathies to the Chapman family and all that they have been through. How can we help Louie?????

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