Can you help an American in La Mirada?

Can you help an American in La Mirada?

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Proud American

Whittier, CA

#1 Sep 18, 2008
I live in La Mirada and have all my life. My parents also live in La Mirada and have for over 40+ years. Many years ago, after high school, I worked for traditional companies & served in the military but never felt it was my thing. I always loved landscaping and everything associated with it. So, many years ago, I started my own small landscape business. I have lawn routes (bus & res) and I also do landscape design (sod, plants, tree, and ponds). I am not rich but I love what I do and it has provided for my family.

I've been very frustrated because my business is in trouble. It's not something I personally caused. It's something that started about 20 years ago and has been getting worse every day. Illegals are taking my customers left and right.

Now some might say I'm priced too high or using illegals is cheaper. I would agree 100% they are less expensive. The reason is, they don't pay any taxes, they don't have permits of any kind, they only employ other illegals to help. I pay taxes, I have permits, I have kids in school. The taxes that you and I pay are used to fund education, improve roads, and (big and) fund the education and health care for those that came here illegally.

I'm not going to post my info so you will hire me. That's not why I'm here. I'm asking if you will strongly consider NOT hiring illegals to do your yard work? You could also write the city of LM and ask that they do more code enforcement of lawn crews. You have to have a permit to operate a business in the city just like ice cream trucks. This type thing is also difficult on flower shops when you buy from illegal vendors on street corners & freeway on-ramps.

Before anyone turns this into a race issue, you should know my heritage is Mexican. I, however, am 100% American. My family has been in America for generations and was here before California was a state.

Thank you for your time and help.
AMERICAN

United States

#2 Sep 18, 2008
AMEN BROTHER
LM lifer

Los Angeles, CA

#3 Sep 18, 2008
I do my own yardwork, and only hire licensed professionals for other work that must be done around the house. Proud, you have made an excellent point in a very eloquent way. I too wish LM would do more code enforcement around here. On my cul de sac, I only have one other neighbor who does his own yard work. The transient run down trucks that come and run through the others with a lawnmower in 15 minutes are working for cheap and I certainly believe the workers are illegal, because they've hit me up before. It's unbelievable. Thank you for your post.
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#4 Sep 19, 2008
You turned it into a race issue when you started whining that illegals are taking your business. Just because you pay taxes does not mean you have to be expensive. My gardener is Mexican and pays taxes and he is not expensive. If you can't make it as a gardener then maybe you should be looking to do something else. You say you do not want to make this into a race issue but your post was nothing but that. By the way, just because your family has been here for generations does not mean you are any better than the mexican who comes here and tries to make life better for their families. I bet your ancestors would be ashamed of you. Get a life and stop bitching.
True American

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Sep 19, 2008
Are you serious "stop whining?" I work my azz of to pay taxes and provide a good living for my family. But, I have to send my kids to public schools that have to allow extra class time for the ESL kids, which takes away the few hours my kids have. If you are going to live in this country you need to learn the language and pay taxes like everyone else. Why should illigals, of any race, religion, ethnicity, get special attention. In other countries if you display a flag that is not that countries you could be arrested. Not in America....we see flags of all countries flown...it's rediculous.
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Sep 19, 2008
Stop blaming illegals (not illigals) for your shortcomings. Whites, blacks, mexicans, etc. get ESL, not only illegals. You are just a bitter person who needs to put blame on other people. Also, you need to learn how to spell, you are terrible at it.
que pasa USA

San Francisco, CA

#7 Sep 19, 2008
the world needs ditch diggers too.

you should have gone to college.
U R Ignorant

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Sep 22, 2008
Not every American goes to college. Perhaps it doesn't suit them. This man trying to make an honest living for his family using legal means and you chastize him for it.

Stop Whining were you born stupid or do you just act like it? The man said he is hispanic by heritage. That means it can't possibly be racial. Also he never claims to be superior to another (in this case other hispanics). Break out a dictionary for the meaning of the word racist.

In my opinion, our government has allowed way too many illegals into our country (for whatever reason) and it's wiping out our middle class citizens of all nationalities.

And I highly doubt and illegal running a landscape business or selling flowers is paying taxes in any way shape or form. But, I'll bet his 10 kids are using public schools and getting public health care on the real tax payers dollar.

Mystifies me how some people in America try to protect people from other countries that come here to take food out of other Americans mouths. Maybe it will be your children's job they take next?
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Sep 22, 2008
Please give me a break. It drives me crazy when people make excuses when they cannot make a living and start blaming other people. I wasn't born stupid I just take responsibility for myself and work hard and don't complain. Maybe you need to give him a job since you seem to think that he is a worthy worker. Maybe he is lazy and doesn't get up and try to find work. By the way he is racist even if he is hispanic. Anyone who puts blame on one race is racist because he cannot take responsibility for himself. Get a clue and STOP WHINING.
LM lifer

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Sep 22, 2008
Hey Stop Whining,

At no time did the original post indicate that the "illegals" were hispanic. That is the conlcusion you came up with when you posted, and it has since degraded into your worthless rant. He only indicates his race because he was probably aware of racists like you who will quickly jump to conclusions and think that all illegals are hispanic or Mexican.

As far as the illegals not paying taxes and getting by on the public dime, not another country in the world is so accomodating as the U.S. Our econmoy is in the toilet, and there will soon be no middle class left. Part of it is greed on the part of corporate America, and part can be blamed on the social mess in which the illegals nurse from.
LM lifer

Los Angeles, CA

#11 Sep 22, 2008
Yes, I know how to spell; conclusion and economy.
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Sep 22, 2008
Hispanics is exactly what he meant. You must be stupid if you cannot see that. I do not see anyone else mowing the grass in this city. That is all anyone complains about in these posts. You just are the type of person that says they are not racist so you can feel good about yourself. I think you calling me a racist is kinda funny, because I sure am not putting blame on anyone for what I have or don't have. If you think this country needs help then maybe you should run for office and yes STOP WHINING and COMPLAINING and do something about it. I applaud you for knowing how to spell, do you want a cookie now???
stop it

San Francisco, CA

#13 Sep 22, 2008
when was the last time you saw a gardener that was not hispanic?
LM lifer wrote:
Hey Stop Whining,
At no time did the original post indicate that the "illegals" were hispanic. That is the conlcusion you came up with when you posted, and it has since degraded into your worthless rant. He only indicates his race because he was probably aware of racists like you who will quickly jump to conclusions and think that all illegals are hispanic or Mexican.
As far as the illegals not paying taxes and getting by on the public dime, not another country in the world is so accomodating as the U.S. Our econmoy is in the toilet, and there will soon be no middle class left. Part of it is greed on the part of corporate America, and part can be blamed on the social mess in which the illegals nurse from.
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Sep 22, 2008
Thank you for proving my point "stop it".
CAM

AOL

#15 Sep 22, 2008
stop it wrote:
when was the last time you saw a gardener that was not hispanic?
<quoted text>
When I watched my husband mow last week.:)
LM Mom

Whittier, CA

#16 Sep 22, 2008
You are absolutely right 'Proud American'. I totally agree.
Bill Bixby

La Mirada, CA

#17 Sep 22, 2008
stop it wrote:
when was the last time you saw a gardener that was not hispanic?
<quoted text>
That guy who drives around in the Hummer and plays Santa Claus every Christmas.
LM lifer

United States

#18 Sep 22, 2008
Yes, Asian gardeners. And the last time was today. I see them everyday. There goes your point Whiner
AGREE

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Sep 22, 2008
Proud American I agree. I tried to talk to our neighbors gardener about blowing all our neighbors leaves and trash onto my lawn and cars and he could not speak or understand me at all. I had to call code enforcement, well needless to say they no longer do my neighbors yard. They had no business liscense for La Mirada. At least the new gardener picks up the leaves and trash instead of blowing it into others yards.
Stop Whining

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Sep 22, 2008
You must not live in La Mirada because I have never seen Asians around here mowing anyones lawn. I must of missed them because those asians sure look hispanic to me. Are you saying that Asians are illegal now and do not pay taxes and are cheap. The original post was about illegals and they only illegals that Proud American was obviously whining about were hispanics,( I only use this word because ignorant people like you assume that they come from hispania, which must be somewhere on one of your maps). Do you come from Whitetia?????

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