La Mirada Council denies pool hall's request for permit to sell...

There are 18 comments on the Whittier Daily News story from May 26, 2009, titled La Mirada Council denies pool hall's request for permit to sell.... In it, Whittier Daily News reports that:

The City Council Tuesday on a 5-0 vote rejected a pool hall owner's appeal of a Planning Commission decision not allowing him to sell hard liquor.

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Matt Piazza

Fullerton, CA

#1 May 26, 2009
Witnessed the public hearing today at City Council meeting and I must say that the business owner made a very STRONG presentation. It was full of facts and common sense but was shot down by the "feelings" and the "vision" of the council members.

There was not one person who spoke in opposition to the hard alcohol permit but some very thoughful and respectful citizens who spoke in favor of letting a businessman run a respectable place. I really feel bad for the business owner.

One of the councilman used to run a pharmacy in our city. I wonder if his employees ever once sold beer to a minor or filled a precription wrong. I wonder if one of our other business owners ever medicated or diagnosed an animal incorrectly.

I wonder if our new City Manager ever made a mistake before. Nah, probably not.

I wonder if our Dick Tracy character-lookalike City lawyer ever could have been sued for malpractice. Tonight, he mumbled (marbles in his mouth?) through some nonsense about the City would have to do to much work if it allowed the business a trial/probation period to prove itself.

Years ago I nicknamed La Mirada "Mayberry RFD"--can someone dispute that assertion in light of this inflexible decision?
LM Rez

Torrance, CA

#2 May 26, 2009
Hmm, just from your description, seems like emotions got in the way of facts and common sense.

I agree that the city is not business friendly. I have seem some people with solid business plans put through the ringer because the city can not see the forest for the trees. Not surprising that it was 5-0. Is there really ever going to be any dissent on the LM city council due to subsequent members being annointed by the sitting rulers?

LM is really a sad place when it comes to city management. No wonder the Imperial corridor is a wreck.
right on

Los Angeles, CA

#3 May 26, 2009
I totally agree with your statements Matt, right up until you start making fun of the way individuals look. If you stick to the facts and leave out the personal attacks, you would be someone others look up to. With all due respect, you may want to think about that if you ever choose to run for office again.
Matt Piazza

Fullerton, CA

#4 May 26, 2009
Yea, you're right, but this Mr. Marbles City lawyer has always been a creep to me...just a cheapshot back at him. The day I run again for anything is the day I want you to shoot me :)
Bob

Whittier, CA

#5 May 27, 2009
No vision or leadership just dictatorship, LaMirada is not business friendly.
SAD FOR DEAN

Norwalk, CA

#6 May 27, 2009
The City is a joke, I used to think it was Andrea and am just realizing it is the Council that needs to change. Matt you are right on. Look at the dribble the City posts on their website.
There are many reasons businesses choose to operate in La Mirada ranging from its ideal Southern California location to the City’s low costs. The advantages of doing business in La Mirada continue to be well-documented, such as being recognized as one of the most business friendly cities in Los Angeles County by the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation (LAEDC).
The City is not even close to business friendly!!!
Ima Rezadent

Los Angeles, CA

#7 May 27, 2009
Hard liquor at a pool hall can contribute to many problems and I must agree that La Mirada does not need a hardcore pool hall. But what's the problem with selling wine?
ripper

Beverly Hills, CA

#8 May 27, 2009
no need for alcohol here owner has already proven not responsible enough to check I.D. why would you want hard alcohol to be served
Whittier neighbor

United States

#9 May 27, 2009
I didn't know that allowing a pool hall to sell hard liquor is "pro-Business!" I'm glad that La Mirada has the sense to stop problems from growing and I'm sure most residents would agree.

What's wrong with having the pool hall see how things are in 6 months and if there's a sign of considerable improvement and no police calls, perhaps a review may be in order.
LM Rez

Torrance, CA

#10 May 27, 2009
Sounds good Whittier, however, if there's a neighbor who has a bug up their butt and wants to give problems to the pool hall, they can call the police and there goes the clean record. The sheriff's have to respond if there's a call, even if it is made in spite. Thus, a call will be listed to the pool hall and the neighbor will have accomplished his/her goal of ruining the hard work of the business man.
right on

Los Angeles, CA

#11 May 27, 2009
For once I agree with LM Rez. This attitude of alcohol is not acceptable for City business' (and that is exactly the attitude) goes beyond Council. Neighbors will assume bad things are happening and stretch the truth to prevent others from doing what they do not agree with.
LM Rez

Torrance, CA

#12 May 27, 2009
For once?!
right on

Los Angeles, CA

#13 May 28, 2009
LM Rez wrote:
For once?!
What you don't agree with me!
Last Call

Pico Rivera, CA

#14 Jun 26, 2009
Matt Piazza wrote:
Witnessed the public hearing today at City Council meeting and I must say that the business owner made a very STRONG presentation. It was full of facts and common sense but was shot down by the "feelings" and the "vision" of the council members.
There was not one person who spoke in opposition to the hard alcohol permit but some very thoughful and respectful citizens who spoke in favor of letting a businessman run a respectable place. I really feel bad for the business owner.
One of the councilman used to run a pharmacy in our city. I wonder if his employees ever once sold beer to a minor or filled a precription wrong. I wonder if one of our other business owners ever medicated or diagnosed an animal incorrectly.
I wonder if our new City Manager ever made a mistake before. Nah, probably not.
I wonder if our Dick Tracy character-lookalike City lawyer ever could have been sued for malpractice. Tonight, he mumbled (marbles in his mouth?) through some nonsense about the City would have to do to much work if it allowed the business a trial/probation period to prove itself.
Years ago I nicknamed La Mirada "Mayberry RFD"--can someone dispute that assertion in light of this inflexible decision?
What in the world does diagnosing an animal incorrectly or selling beer to a minor have to do with someone getting turned down on an alcohol permit. That doesn't make any sense at all. Filling an incorrect prescription? Yes, people do make mistakes everyday and yes people do make wrong choices, but how does that relate to an alcohol permit being denied? Your analysis doesn't make sense. Yes, La Mirada does need to be more business friendly, but whatever it takes to keep more drunk drivers off of the streets is OK by me. Go to Brea and drink, just take a taxi home.
Matt Piazza

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Jun 27, 2009
Because one of the main reasons that some of the council members--the ones that used to run a business--gave to deny the permit was because Scratch made a mistake and didn't check an I.D.

You can be hysterical against alcohol or you can see how fundamentally unfair it is for a business owner to compete with other establishments in OUR city (not Brea) that are allowed to serve it.
LM REZ

United States

#16 Apr 21, 2013
Touch me hard. I like hard. Now kiss my back. Mmm... just like that.
Svert

La Mirada, CA

#17 Jan 21, 2014
Last Call wrote:
<quoted text>
What in the world does diagnosing an animal incorrectly or selling beer to a minor have to do with someone getting turned down on an alcohol permit. That doesn't make any sense at all. Filling an incorrect prescription? Yes, people do make mistakes everyday and yes people do make wrong choices, but how does that relate to an alcohol permit being denied? Your analysis doesn't make sense. Yes, La Mirada does need to be more business friendly, but whatever it takes to keep more drunk drivers off of the streets is OK by me. Go to Brea and drink, just take a taxi home.
Fguxck you forever 'til you die, ahhsgshhole!
tightkum

United States

#18 Oct 28, 2014
Svert wrote:
<quoted text>Fguxck you forever 'til you die, ahhsgshhole!
I appreciate the tightness of very young girls. Ohhh... mmmm... ahhhh...

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