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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Jazybird58

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#181999 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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If the other few laws against poly were repealed, the only law against poly in CA would be prop 8. It's as discriminatory against poly marriage as it is against same sex marriage.
It going away is a victory to poly EQUALLY to being a victory for same sex marriage.
There is no limit on equal rights, there are enough to go around for EVERYBODY. Allowing poly marriage will in no way effect your marriage. The numbers are so few, you'll probably never have to be offended by the sight of a happy poly family.
If If If If, now throw in a few buts. The topic at hand ( overturning Prop 8) has nothing to do with polygamy
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182000 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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If the other few laws against poly were repealed, the only law against poly in CA would be prop 8. It's as discriminatory against poly marriage as it is against same sex marriage.
It going away is a victory to poly EQUALLY to being a victory for same sex marriage.
There is no limit on equal rights, there are enough to go around for EVERYBODY. Allowing poly marriage will in no way effect your marriage. The numbers are so few, you'll probably never have to be offended by the sight of a happy poly family.
That is a pretty big IF, and currently there is no serious movement on overturning that law.

It was illegal before, is still illegal, and will still be illegal when prop 8 is overturned.

If wishes were fishes we would call cast nets

Jazybird58

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#182001 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Eliminating a law that says a man and a woman is the only recognized marriage in CA. That's where.
On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.

That ruling said nothing of or about polygamy, now did it?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182002 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
That ruling said nothing of or about polygamy, now did it?
Prop 8 is also a ban on poly marriage. Why does that disturb you so? Are you against marriage equality?

You cannot spin away the fact that it is a ban on same sex and poly marriage EQUALLY. No matter how hard you try.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182003 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Is polygamy already illegal? Why yes it is.
Why would a law then be crafted, to outlaw something that's already illegal?
Are you trying to convince me prop 8 doesn't ban polygamy too? Why?
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182004 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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If....
Yeah... that has a chance of happening....
That's what they said about SSM, as little as a few short years ago.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182005 Mar 1, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
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Double illegal! Wow! That will be hard to overturn.
One man one woman. Bans more than one of each. Sorry for you, I know your bigoted ignorant opinions of polygamy well.

Jazybird58

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#182006 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 is also a ban on poly marriage. Why does that disturb you so? Are you against marriage equality?
You cannot spin away the fact that it is a ban on same sex and poly marriage EQUALLY. No matter how hard you try.
On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182007 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
Proposition 8 was a California ballot proposition and a state constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections. The measure added a new provision, Section 7.5 of the Declaration of Rights, to the California Constitution, which provides that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."[2][3][4]
By restricting the recognition of marriage to opposite-sex couples, the proposition overturned the California Supreme Court's ruling of In re Marriage Cases that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry. The wording of Proposition 8 was precisely the same as that which had been found in Proposition 22, which had passed in 2000 and, as an ordinary statute, had been invalidated by the State Supreme Court in 2008. California's State Constitution put Proposition 8 into immediate effect the day after the election.[5] The proposition did not affect domestic partnerships in California,[6] nor same-sex marriages performed before November 5, 2008.[7][8][9]
After the elections, demonstrations and protests occurred across the state and nation. Same-sex couples and government entities filed numerous lawsuits with the California Supreme Court challenging the proposition's validity and effect on previously administered same-sex marriages. In Strauss v. Horton, the California Supreme Court upheld Proposition 8, but allowed existing same-sex marriages to stand (under the grandfather clause principle).
United States District Court Judge Vaughn Walker overturned Proposition 8 on August 4, 2010 in the case Perry v. Schwarzenegger, ruling that it violated both the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the United States Constitution.[10] Walker issued an injunction against enforcing Proposition 8 and a stay to determine suspension of his ruling pending appeal.[11][12] The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals continued the stay, keeping Walker's ruling on hold pending appeal.[13]
Does prop 8 ban polygamy? Yes in that pesky "A" in a man and a woman. Sure there are other laws against it, but it's one less when prop 8 goes away. How can you argue otherwise? And why try?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#182008 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
That ruling said nothing of or about polygamy, now did it?
You are depressing his sister, and perhaps his goat.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182009 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
Prop 8 is also a ban on poly marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182010 Mar 1, 2013
Jazybird58 wrote:
<quoted text>Is polygamy already illegal? Why yes it is.
Why would a law then be crafted, to outlaw something that's already illegal?
Because the law was made to only allow marriage between a man and a woman.

Sure it was directed at same sex marriage mainly but it was worded to ban polygamy also. Kill two birds with one stone so to speak.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182011 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
There is no limit on equal rights,
Yes there is.... the guarantee is equal protection, not equal rights. The State can limit marriage to whatever group they so choose IF..... IF there is a legitimate State interest in doing so.

Why can't you grasp this? What is wrong with you? We've told you at least 50 times and it still hasn't sunk in. Are you retarded?

Jazybird58

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#182012 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Are you trying to convince me prop 8 doesn't ban polygamy too? Why?
Existing laws, prohibit polygamy.

On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182013 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 is also a ban on poly marriage.
Polygamy was already illegal. Prop 8 did not ban polygamy.

Jazybird58

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#182014 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Prop 8 is also a ban on poly marriage.
On February 7, 2012, in a 2–1 decision, a Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals panel affirmed Walker's decision declaring the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage to be unconstitutional.
Frankie Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#182015 Mar 1, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You are depressing his sister, and perhaps his goat.
What happened to my goat? Is he depressed too?

You ridicule that dumb non-argument when used against SSM, then you use it yourself against other forms of marriage.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182016 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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One man one woman. Bans more than one of each. Sorry for you, I know your bigoted ignorant opinions of polygamy well.
Double illegal.... how fascinating is the legal system on your planet?
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182017 Mar 1, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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That's what they said about SSM, as little as a few short years ago.
SSM was LEGAL in California a few short years ago. Polygamy was never legal.
Xavier Breath

West New York, NJ

#182018 Mar 1, 2013
When Prop 8 gets overturned, let's have a party celebrating lawnchair marriage. After all, that man, woman thing will be moot.

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