martin valadez up for appeal

[CURIOUS]

Martin Valadez is trying to have his conviction overturned. Has anyone heard this?

[BEBE]

Yes I am sure you are all very curious!!

[Just Sayin]

BEBE wrote:

Yes I am sure you are all very curious!!

I would use the word "disgusted" rather than "curious".

[Lake County MEG]

Well to be honest, there was no 'real' evidance against him, they used the words of a narc to convict him.

[get a life]

why do you all keep wondering whats going on with Martin? Do you not have a life of your own?...or your just scared he'll see all the post you put on the other wall

[Just Sayin]

get a life wrote:

why do you all keep wondering whats going on with Martin? Do you not have a life of your own?...or your just scared he'll see all the post you put on the other wall

If his release would be a threat to anyone, the police and judge should be made aware of that.

[get a life]

please!...."just sayin" get a life and leave Martin and his family be. He has kids that he wants to come home to...want you worry about the sex offenders in your area. Isnt that a bigger threat than some "alleged" drug dealer? why does anyone care if gets an appeal or not. go on with your life and quit hating!...or better yet get a job or a hobby and stay off this stupid forum

[Just Sayin]

get a life wrote:

please!...."just sayin" get a life and leave Martin and his family be. He has kids that he wants to come home to...want you worry about the sex offenders in your area. Isnt that a bigger threat than some "alleged" drug dealer? why does anyone care if gets an appeal or not. go on with your life and quit hating!...or better yet get a job or a hobby and stay off this stupid forum

You are the one passing out the threats on Martin's behalf and that is only going to get him in more trouble. Perhaps people like you and Martin only know how to threaten people to get what you want. That might be part of why he is in prison.
Since you asked, I would say drug dealers belong in jail whether they have kids or not. I really don't care if he wants to see his kids. He should have thought of that before being a criminal. The drug dealing isn't the only thing he's done -- just the thing he got caught doing. His kids would be better off not being exposed to that kind of a life, in my opinion.
As far as drug dealer vs child molester? Drug dealers exploit children in more ways than one, and this case doesn't have anything to do with child molesters. However, if you know anyone that does either, do the right thing and turn them in.
I have a job -- off today for Labor Day. I also have a hobby -- replying to your misguided comments on Topix.

[Yeah]

Is he really up for appeal?
Do you have any online resources referring to this?
I can't find any other news online regarding this - unless it's his 2005 arrest?
..... If so, it's a scary situation. He had a lot of control in the teen community and kids (bangers) will REALLY look up to him, when he gets out now.
Considering the increase of recent violence in RL area - I hope they vote appropriately.

[nicole]

you really think that this guy who got 2 life sentences, is gonna come out and...probably gonna be watched very carefully...is going to go back to the things he was "said" to be doing....COME ON! You dont think that maybe he has learned from his mistakes, that maybe he wants to start new....but you people are not going to let him....there are plenty of people there in RL that have made some of the same mistakes, but have turned their lives around completly. Ricky Bueno for instance. He has become a great guy and a great asset to society. So who are any of you to judge Martin? I think if any of you were sentenced to a life sentence and given a 2nd chance, you would make some changes too. 2nd chances dont come often, it would be a great opportunity to turn things around.

[Yeah]

You said "alleged" - He was arrested - life sentences - they had solid evidence. You are in denial.
Do you think that was the first time M was arrested? No.
Do you even realize how many times he was put behind bars??.. Probably not.
"You people aren't going to let him" - Didn't he do this to himself?
I think it would be great to see him turn his life around. I believe it's possible.
Please realize - Ricky Bueno is an exception, not a standard response to convicts.

[nicole]

your right Ricky is an exception...but Martin should be given the same opportunity if he is released.
and if you knew ANYTHING about Martin, you would know that he had NO prior jail time. He only had juvenile cases. Shows how much you know...dont assume because he got such a harsh punishment he was in & out of prison.
and we'll see about their "solid" evidence...I'm not even gonna go into detail on that one...if you knew Martin you would know the circumstances.
He was convicted because 2 drug dealers got a lesser charge to put it all on Martin. One of them a KNOWN dealer wha HAD been in and out of prison for years...and he got what..11 yrs? He'll probably come home and go back to the same stuff.Because all the other times he was in prison, he never learned his lessen.

[BEBE]

Yeah wrote:

Is he really up for appeal?
Do you have any online resources referring to this?
I can't find any other news online regarding this - unless it's his 2005 arrest?
..... If so, it's a scary situation. He had a lot of control in the teen community and kids (bangers) will REALLY look up to him, when he gets out now.
Considering the increase of recent violence in RL area - I hope they vote appropriately.

I definetly agree Nicole, who is this person to come and judge what they think the outcome will be, My brother has changed in so many ways, I am sure you think that may not be possible but yes God does given second chances, and Yes he may have dome wrong, And this will finally bring out the light in his eyes that he should have done long ago, I know he was cruel at times and I did not agree with all the gang banging and violence and choose not to got that route or get involved in those kinds of acts myself, I choose to go to school and turn my head, But Martin is still my brother and I will be behind 100% regardless of foolish actions.

[B please get real]

CURIOUS wrote:

Martin Valadez is trying to have his conviction overturned. Has anyone heard this?

He has no chance! He needs to rot in there and cont. to be someones B. What a joke. I believe in 2nd chances but he had many and he needs to pay the consequeces. Even if hes someones father, brother, son....thats why you think before you do crap. He chose his path, deal with it.

[BEBE]

Houston huh? Wondering who is talking there, Your funny!!

[Just Sayin]

nicole wrote:

your right Ricky is an exception...but Martin should be given the same opportunity if he is released.
and if you knew ANYTHING about Martin, you would know that he had NO prior jail time. He only had juvenile cases. Shows how much you know...dont assume because he got such a harsh punishment he was in & out of prison.
and we'll see about their "solid" evidence...I'm not even gonna go into detail on that one...if you knew Martin you would know the circumstances.
He was convicted because 2 drug dealers got a lesser charge to put it all on Martin. One of them a KNOWN dealer wha HAD been in and out of prison for years...and he got what..11 yrs? He'll probably come home and go back to the same stuff.Because all the other times he was in prison, he never learned his lessen.

I knew Martin and you are making excuses for someone that is basically a sociopath. I am sure he will say whatever he has to in order to get released -- even say he "found God", but the fact of the matter is that he made these wrong choices and is being held accountable for some of them. He knew what the consequences would be for him and his family if he broke the law and he continued to do so over and over again.

[your judicial system]

An ever-growing percentage of the US's 2.3 million prisoners - including more than half of the 200,000 inmates in federal prison - are drug offenders, many of them charged on vague counts of "conspiracy." Since parole was abolished on the federal level in 1987, drug prisoners serving drastic sentences are told to apply for a presidential pardon: It's their only option.
Take Clarence Aaron, a nonviolent drug prisoner denied clemency by Bush. Aaron was a 23-year-old college student in 1993 when he was convicted of drug conspiracy, for introducing two major traffickers and being present during the transaction. He was handed three federal life sentences - no parole.
It happened in 1993, when Aaron was 23 and a junior at Southern University in Baton Rouge, La.
Aaron grew up in Mobile, Ala., where several of his high school acquaintances ran a drug ring. His grandfather, who had been paying to support him in school, had recently passed away when his high school football teammate, a drug dealer named Robert Hines, approached Aaron and asked if he knew where his boss, Marion Teano Watts, could score cocaine.
Aaron introduced them to a dealer in Louisiana, Gary Chisholm, who sold them 9 kilos of cocaine. A later attempt to buy 15 kilos was thwarted when the money was stolen.
Aaron got $1,500 for introducing the dealers.
In January 1993, after discovering that his apartment in Baton Rouge had been searched by the FBI, Aaron turned himself in and was charged with conspiracy to possess a controlled substance with the intent to distribute, possession of a controlled substance with the intent to distribute, and attempt to possess a controlled substance with intent to distribute.
He was released on bond and passed random drug tests for almost eight months.

[your judicial system]

He went on trial in August and was convicted on the three charges — possession, conspiracy and attempted possession — with the intent to distribute 24 kilos of crack cocaine.
That was 15 years ago, when Aaron was 24. He has been in prison ever since. He's 39 years old now, and he will die in prison.
Aaron's five co-conspirators, including the drug ring's kingpin, Watts, were arrested before him and cut deals with federal prosecutors to testify against Aaron in exchange for reduced sentences.
"The entire testimony was based upon what is commonly called 'snitches' or cooperating individuals — people that have been arrested and prosecuted for drug crimes who were seeking to have their sentences reduced by cooperating," said lawyer Dennis Knizley, who defended Aaron at his trial in 1993.
"They were contending that Clarence was involved in drugs with them," Knizley said. "The biggest problem in using cooperating individuals is that, one, they have a strained motive to not be totally honest on the witness stand. Second, it is simply their words."
There was no physical evidence, no drugs, presented at Aaron's trial.
Watts, who testified he was "a major crack cocaine distributor" who had made more than a million dollars dealing drugs and had six people working for him, was sentenced to 14 years in exchange for his cooperation.
He served seven years and 10 months and was released on April 28, 2000.
Robert Hines, Aaron's childhood friend who asked him to set up the deal, got 10 years, but he served only four years and four months. Two others served less than five years.
Gary Chisholm, the Baton Rouge dealer, was also sentenced to life, but his sentence was reduced to 24 years, 4 months. His release is expected on April 25, 2014.
Aaron won't be released.
"Aaron was the lowest man on the totem pole and he got the worst sentence," said David Borden, executive director of Stop the Drug War, a Washington-based group that has pushed for Aaron's release.
On average, Aaron's co-conspirators, career drug dealers who knew better how to work the system, will spend about eight years in prison.
But Clarence Aaron, once a high school and college football player, a church-going member of the Masons, will grow old and die behind bars.
The system "does not function truly on facts and does not rank the level of the severity of criminal involvement top to bottom [when dealing] with people," Borden said. "Their sentences present priorities not equal to the moral truth of the situation."
Aaron's attempts to get out of prison have all been unsuccessful.
Congress passed a "safety valve" one year after Aaron was sentenced that exempted first-time non-violent offenders from being punished according to mandatory sentencing guidelines. The law was not retroactive.
His 1996 appeal failed, as have several bids to have his sentence reduced.
His only hope now is that a president will commute his sentence.
Aaron petitioned President Bush for clemency, asking him to commute his sentence and set him free. If Bush decides to do so, Aaron will have served 15 years, more than double that of the Mobile crack ring's kingpin.
For now, Aaron sits waiting in a high-security Florida federal penitentiary, hoping for the best.

[300RIP]

Let him ROT, He's a piece of crap, not only is he convicted of drug dealling but MURDER of his former friend; who left behind a kid, does anyone care about his kids, so why care about Martins, he didn't when his friends life was taken. Rest in Hell Martin, your wife and kids are better off with out you just like the rest of society, You haven't found god, you found a excuse.

[Are you kidding me]

I agree, it is well known that Martin had Mikey Davis killed, 6 years ago today...RIP Mikey!
He did not give a second thought to Mikey, his kid, or his family. As far as the drugs go, they found 14 or 15 kilos in an area behind his house, it is well known what he was doing...wire taps and wires confirmed all of this. He convicted himself.
I believe he will never get out, even if both life sentences were overturned I believe he would be picked up on the RICO statuate, convicted, and sentenced to life on that....