Mchenry Drug Court Graduates

Mchenry Drug Court Graduates

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Since: Jan 12

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#1 May 15, 2013
http://www.nwherald.com/2013/05/15/mchenry-co...

Congrats graduates! This is a system that works and should be applauded. We need to invest our resources in programs like this that can make a difference in an addict's life, and change it completely. Programs like this reduce recidivism and work!
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#2 May 15, 2013
jail works too just ask Robert Downey Jr.
And i'll bet he makes way more money then all the grads in this program will.

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#3 May 15, 2013
Mystery Man wrote:
jail works too just ask Robert Downey Jr.
And i'll bet he makes way more money then all the grads in this program will.
Actually jail did not cause him to stop. Rehab and counseling did. Jail is just a temporary solution. From RDJ "Downey finally got that intervention in 2003, when he entered rehab (and got "the best shrink in America") and successfully turned his life around.

Now sober for seven years, Downey plans to stay that way. "The ramifications of a little slip are not what they used to be," he says. "It's not kid stuff anymore."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/goss...

So, once again you are incorrect in your statements and fact.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#4 May 15, 2013
ahem rehab NEVER worked for him until he went to JAIL
jail is the wake up call that makes any rehab possible.
without jail rehab never works

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#5 May 15, 2013
If your ignorance wasn't so sad, it would be funny. Ahem, jail never worked for him after several trips. The only thing that worked was when he FINALLY got the proper counseling and rehabilitation. If jail worked for addicts, jails wouldn't be filled with addicts on their 4th or 5th trip to jail. Jailing addicts doesn't work and never has. But, you keep living in your own little dream world. Clearly you are uninterested in facts, only your incorrect theories. Thank God the courts understand the facts and are looking for options that WORK for addicts.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#6 May 15, 2013
you're going to stoop to personal insults again ?
you used be better then that.
i'll discuss your points when your serious about them like i am.

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#7 May 15, 2013
Sorry, I'm not into insults or changing the subject as you do. I'm just stating facts. You seem to not know the difference between fact and your opinion. Just trying to help you understand the difference.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#8 May 15, 2013
WaywardDaughter wrote:
If your ignorance wasn't so sad,
then explain to me how this is not meant as an insult ?
you would go ape if someone said stuff like this about you every day like i get.
personally i don't care but i will point out your hypocrisy at saying you don't insult. You do it just like the others do.

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#9 May 15, 2013
Mystery Man wrote:
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then explain to me how this is not meant as an insult ?
you would go ape if someone said stuff like this about you every day like i get.
personally i don't care but i will point out your hypocrisy at saying you don't insult. You do it just like the others do.
It's not meant as an insult. I was speaking the truth. It's terribly sad when people have no idea what they are talking about and continue to propagandize. Your statements regarding addicts are so far from the truth they can actually sound comical.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#10 May 15, 2013
so i guess it would be ok to call you ignorant too.
Don't worry i won't its not my style.
i prefer to debate issues not your lack of intelligence.

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#11 May 15, 2013
Mystery Man wrote:
so i guess it would be ok to call you ignorant too.
Don't worry i won't its not my style.
i prefer to debate issues not your lack of intelligence.
I certainly would not call myself ignorant in regards to treatment options and recidivism rates of addicts. In fact, some might call me an authority on the subject. But, you go right ahead.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#12 May 15, 2013
as i told you i leave those words to you.
i rather stick to the issues you refuse to even acknowledge.

what is going to happen IF there is ANY legalization is far more then anyone has to courage to talk about except me.
Abe

Round Lake, IL

#13 May 15, 2013
Funny how MM just tried to change the subject to "legalization".
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#14 May 15, 2013
Abe wrote:
Funny how MM just tried to change the subject to "legalization".
what's even funnier is that you fail to notice i'm the ONLY one asking to stick to the topic.
While others like YOU want to make it about me.
So exactly where is YOUR on topic comment ?
Yeah right funny man you don't have any such comments.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#15 May 15, 2013
Getting back to the topic that no one but me will post about.
I'm glad Robert Downey Jr went to jail.
It straighten out his life big time.
Rehab centers do SOMETIMES help.
But the real help only happens when the druggie hits rock bottom. Ask an honest reformed druggie and they'll admit to that fact.
And jail is the ultimate rock bottom.

now watch how many personal attacks on me appear and how few on topic posts are made.
You guys just can't help yourself.

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#16 May 15, 2013
Mystery Man wrote:
Getting back to the topic that no one but me will post about.
I'm glad Robert Downey Jr went to jail.
It straighten out his life big time.
Rehab centers do SOMETIMES help.
But the real help only happens when the druggie hits rock bottom. Ask an honest reformed druggie and they'll admit to that fact.
And jail is the ultimate rock bottom.
now watch how many personal attacks on me appear and how few on topic posts are made.
You guys just can't help yourself.
The only thing that you are attacked on consistently is the fact that you are wrong consistently. I worked with reformed "druggies" on a daily basis. Very rarely has incarceration without counseling helped them to overcome their addictions. You then bring up Robert Downey Jr again as an example of your misguided thinking. Even he states that jail did not relieve him of his addiction. Rehab and counseling did. So, once again, even though you are shown to be incorrect, you continue to post ridiculous incorrect comments instead of acknowledging you were incorrect. For example, your post should have been "oh really? I did not know that!". How refreshing that would be.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#17 May 15, 2013
WaywardDaughter wrote:
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The only thing that you are attacked on consistently is the fact that you are wrong consistently. I worked with reformed "druggies" on a daily basis. Very rarely has incarceration without counseling helped them to overcome their addictions. You then bring up Robert Downey Jr again as an example of your misguided thinking. Even he states that jail did not relieve him of his addiction. Rehab and counseling did. So, once again, even though you are shown to be incorrect, you continue to post ridiculous incorrect comments instead of acknowledging you were incorrect. For example, your post should have been "oh really? I did not know that!". How refreshing that would be.
No i'm attacked and insulted consistently for who i am NOT for my views. Even you couldn't resist cheap insults.

Do you really honestly expect someone to say jail is what cleaned them up ?
LOL no one wants to ever go to jail or have that as part of their history.
Its so much nicer to say a rehab center cleaned them up.
Lets be clear here. Downey Jr. was in and out of rehabs BEFORE he went to jail.
They never helped him at all.
Only after he went to jail did he take rehab seriously.
Now try to just talk about those issues WITHOUT mentioning me in any way.
Antiocher

Round Lake, IL

#18 May 15, 2013
WaywardDaughter wrote:
http://www.nwherald.com/2013/0 5/15/mchenry-county-drug-court -graduates-first-participants/ aeyvouu/
Congrats graduates! This is a system that works and should be applauded. We need to invest our resources in programs like this that can make a difference in an addict's life, and change it completely. Programs like this reduce recidivism and work!
Completely agree! I have a friend that was in and out of jail for over 5 years. She was addicted to crack cocaine. She begged and pleaded for drug court 3 years ago. Graduated a year later and has been drug free ever since. I thank God every day that courts have found solutions that work instead of jailing some of these people. She is working full time, and has her life back. And I have my best friend back! I pray they keep these programs in place.
Mystery Man

Gurnee, IL

#19 May 15, 2013
Only 5 years.
Sounds like we need LONGER sentences for addicted druggies doing COCAINE in and out of jail over and over again.
25 years sounds about right to me.

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#20 May 15, 2013
Mystery Man wrote:
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No i'm attacked and insulted consistently for who i am NOT for my views. Even you couldn't resist cheap insults.
Do you really honestly expect someone to say jail is what cleaned them up ?
LOL no one wants to ever go to jail or have that as part of their history.
Its so much nicer to say a rehab center cleaned them up.
Lets be clear here. Downey Jr. was in and out of rehabs BEFORE he went to jail.
They never helped him at all.
Only after he went to jail did he take rehab seriously.
Now try to just talk about those issues WITHOUT mentioning me in any way.
Wow, do people know who you are? I was under the impression this was an anonymous forum. And of course your theories are once again incorrect. Do you think there has been no research on this? Do you think the researchers don't know if an addict has been to jail or not? Evidently you are the expert on Downey's addiction since what you are saying contradicts what he says about his own recovery.

Addicts can go in and out of jail for years without any counseling or help whatsoever. That is why jails are overflowing with addicts. Other programs that are available and proven to work are a better option. Your ability to continue to protest proven programs and proven research is quite baffling. Your ability to think that throwing people into jail without treating the illness is a better option, is also baffling when it's been proven incorrect over and over again.

Anyway, my work here is done. Congrats Graduates, hope to see the next group soon! And Antiocher, so happy for you. Thanks for the story, that is exactly why these programs are in place.

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