tragedies are being used to manipulat...

tragedies are being used to manipulate the sheeple of America.

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AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#1 Dec 19, 2012
You have to remember it's the person that does the killing.

Hundreds of millions Americans own firearms legally and use them responsibly.

One person perpetrate a despicable crime against unarmed children in a location where firearms are not allowed.

That person could not even allow himself to live to face the reality of his actions.

If the principle of that school would have had access to a firearm this tragedy would've never happened.

By disarming people you only allow the criminals have more power over us all.

39 states allow concealed carry and in every one of those states the crime rate has dropped.

Why does the crime rate drop you ask, the criminals are mostly cowards and if you are willing to defend yourself they will not pray upon you.

And if they do they don't know which bystander may intervene in your behalf.

All states should follow the lead of Florida's stand your ground gun laws.
AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#2 Dec 21, 2012
But the bottom line to all these mass shootings is not the firearms.

It's the prescribed medication every one of the shooters are using.

Serotonin uptake inhibitors otherwise known as Prozac and other versions of Prozac.

When Prozac was first put on the market there was such a high suicide rate it was removed and reformulated.

Now the reformulated serotonin uptake inhibitor type drugs have turned people into these unfeeling killing monsters.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#3 Dec 21, 2012
AMERICA MAN wrote:
But the bottom line to all these mass shootings is not the firearms.
It's the prescribed medication every one of the shooters are using.
Serotonin uptake inhibitors otherwise known as Prozac and other versions of Prozac.
When Prozac was first put on the market there was such a high suicide rate it was removed and reformulated.
Now the reformulated serotonin uptake inhibitor type drugs have turned people into these unfeeling killing monsters.
Tom Cruise, is that you?
AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#4 Dec 21, 2012
News Reader 2011 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tom Cruise, is that you?
yes it me but don't tell everyone, O.K.

When these drugs were first put on the market the people using the drugs were committing suicide at a extraordinarily high percentage.

The drugs were removed from the market and reformulated and now are being prescribed to these mentally ill people who are now killing large numbers of people around them and finally committing suicide.

This should be your focal point not the firearms.

Hundreds of millions of people have firearms and use them in responsible manner for many years.

Since: Oct 11

Antioch, IL

#5 Dec 21, 2012
I disagree. When properly prescribed, and regularly monitored, and combined with counseling, anti-depressants and other drugs of this class are very safe. When people play around with their dosages, take them some days and not others, and don't do anything to address the underlying root cause of the problem, then they are not effective, but IMO, it's not the drug that's dangerous, it's the person themselves.

What do you do tho? Maybe Obamacare will provide enough benefits for someone to be institutionalized for life. But if you don't have that kind of money, what are you supposed to do? Cuts in programs keep shutting down mental health facilities and people are being dumped onto the street. It's not like they can help where their minds go. It sounds like the CT shooters mom was trying to have him committed and this was his response (at least that's what the media's saying). Do you fault her for not moving faster?

I don't have an answer. It's a fucked up situation. But I still agree that gun control isn't the answer. I don't personally have an issue with banning assault weapons and large capacity ammo clips.
AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#6 Dec 22, 2012
Recent Studies have shown doctors misdiagnosed their patients by 40%.

This disturbed me that doctors made this many mistakes.

the same goes for them prescribing medication I would assume ,it seems to be just a hit or miss will try this drug if it doesn't make you feel better will try this one or change the dosage.

I agreed to try to pick the bogeyman out of the situation is difficult.

everyone's feelings are torn because killed of the children in this last action.

but in the big picture more people die in auto accidents that are killed by firearms.

this number is being skewed by the media recently adding suicides to the equation to change that percentage saying more people are killed by firearms in my auto accidents now because of this incident

but of course the new cars have so many airbags it's almost impossible to die in auto accident.

As you see in the real world the simple idea of banning these weapons has caused a surge in the market place most stores have sold all their firearms and ordering more because of the great demand.

Firearms are here to stay in America.

the true facts wherever firearms are allowed to be carried by our citizens there is a lower crime rate overall.

Illinois and California is one of the few states that its citizens are not allowed to carry firearms and you see the crime rate is staggering compared to the other 39 states that do allow concealed carry by its law abiding citizens.

The simple reason being criminals feel more powerful knowing the law abiding citizens are defenseless and only have to deal with police that are too far in between to protect everyone.

I've been to those states that allow concealed carry , people don't go pulling their weapons out shooting each other every time someone has an argument, everyone is aware of the laws for the legal use of their firearm ,also everyone is more respectful toward each other.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#7 Dec 26, 2012
AMERICAN MAN IS TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE SHEEPLE! LOL
AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#8 Dec 27, 2012
LazyK wrote:
AMERICAN MAN IS TRYING TO MANIPULATE THE SHEEPLE! LOL
Well if you're only interested in hearing one opinion,
or one side of any topic.

Even though the right to free speech is being whittled down year by year, to what you're allowed to actually say anymore.

the news media would gladly call me terrorist to justify their views or agenda!

here's some new facts about Los Angeles California.

Response time to a 911 call is over half an hour.

unless you clearly state you have an intruder in your home that you see has a fire arm on his person , only then you will get better a better response time.

Of course anything is better than a half-hour

this is why I believe Illinois should allow concealed carry like the other 39 states have proven the crime rate actually goes down when law abiding citizens are allowed to carry firearms on their person.
AMERICA MAN

Round Lake, IL

#9 Dec 27, 2012
About the 911 response time in Los Angeles.

A half hour response time is only calculated using the calls the police actually respond to.

Many calls to 911, police are not even dispatched to the caller and are just ignored.

My friend had a obvious drunk driver crashed through his bushes and into the side of his house
Immobilizing the car .

The drunk driver was able to get out of his car throw his liquor bottles into other parts of my friends yard.

The drunk drivers car was equipped with OnStar so a tow truck was dispatched and took the car and drunk away.

My friend's wife called 911 when she was awoken by the sound of a car crashing into the side of her house.

the neighbors on both sides of his house called 911 .

At least three calls to 911 by three people to a crash scene involving a car and house which potentially means a fire and no police ever showed up.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#10 Jan 4, 2013
AMERICA MAN wrote:
<quoted text>
yes it me but don't tell everyone, O.K.
When these drugs were first put on the market the people using the drugs were committing suicide at a extraordinarily high percentage.
The drugs were removed from the market and reformulated and now are being prescribed to these mentally ill people who are now killing large numbers of people around them and finally committing suicide.
This should be your focal point not the firearms.
Hundreds of millions of people have firearms and use them in responsible manner for many years.
Agreed, big pharm is manipulating the sheeple. And all the sheeple line up to be guinea pigs for big pharm so they can line their pockets with our money. Flu shots, pills for every little issue someone has. Big pharm is today what acid pushers were in the 60's. Until the "sheeple" wake up and figure this out we are going nowhere but downhill.

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