Questions hang over 17-year-old Mayes

Questions remain whether the 17-year-old accused of killing a local doctor June 9 would have received stricter supervision or more therapeutic services had he remained in the juvenile system following previous criminal charges. Full Story
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Geez

Santa Fe, NM

#1 Jun 25, 2011
I said it once and I'll say it again, everyone involved in allowing this kid to go to Roswell to the military institute instead of having to go through the system like any other juvenile should lose their jobs. I don't care how far up the totum pole they are. City Manager, Police Chief, District Attorney, Fortner and on down the line. And I also believe the Nordstrum's should sue the socks off any entity or person who was involved in letting this kid sneak out of town and not be charged like any other person who breaks the law would have been charged. Not only did they not follow proceedure and the law, they possibly endangered other kids and instructors at NMMI. They already knew the kid had issues so why cut him loose and send him to another town to cause problems or hurt somebody down there? The campass at NMMI isn't a lockdown facility and they knew that. All everyone involved did was send the problem out of Farmington so his family wouldn't be held accountable for him. I know for a fact if it was my kid he would have been taken to jail after the burglaries and would've been kept so busy running to appointments, meetings, evaluations, doctors by the juvenile system, he wouldn't have time to be out causing someone's death.
Wonderdog

Adrian, MI

#3 Jun 25, 2011
The age old question, rehabilitation or punishment? Either way there wouldn't have been an issue without chronyism. The old boy club in F-town needs to be turned out next election.
Wow

Fresno, CA

#4 Jun 25, 2011
So the plot thickens. Mayes tells the public his kid was back from NMMI for summer break and the school says he left in March. In the interest of his child Mayes says he then enrolled him at the NM Boys Ranch for more intensive help. Well chalk up another Commandment violated by the Mayes', now we can add Thou Shalt Not Lie, to the list on Rob's behalf. Not only about Mayes' kid leaving NMMI for summer break but most likely on the application and interview at NMMI.

Mayes would have had more restraints placed on him had he been placed in the juvenile justice system. Ankle bracelet, curfew, counseling programs etc etc which most likely would have prevented the calculated killing which Dr Nordstrum became the victim of. Enrolling Mayes in NMMI not only placed students in jeopardy but also another community.

I would hope the City Council would request a formal investigation into the involvement of Mayes, the DA's, office, and the PD. in the dismissal of charges against Mayes' son as well as some of the inner issues at the PD with missing weapons, ammo, and attempted disribution of Court converted weapons.

The relationship between Mayes and Westall is well known to be more than professional. Westall issued Mayes a department firearm and also gave him a nifty looking badge to go with it. The selection of Westall as chief was inadequate as well. Not to mention Westall getting all his face time next door.

It was known Westall was going to get the nod upon Runnels' departure hasty or not. I find it intersting that under the helm of Westall the arrest of Runnels' kid three times in the last 6 months has never made it to the media particularly his St Paddys Day arrest for DWI when other persons arrested that night had made the paper.

Hopefully the council wil do what's right for the citizens of Farmington and request a formal federal investigation into this matter as well as other issues within the PD.



Impartial

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Jun 25, 2011
Boy talk about the good ole boys club. Farmington politicians are a bunch of crooks, using the system (or bypassing the system) for their own personal gain.
Everyone involved in that boy skirting the system should be tried as acessories, because this would not have happened if he went through the system, as he should have.
These parents knew this person(I do not consider him a kid) was a ticking time bomb, and still they decided to skirt the system and handle it themselves, resulting in the death of the doctor.
If it wasn't the doctor it would have been someone else.
This case needs to be investigated inside out and although suing won't bring back the doctor it will sure make it hard on the people running Farmington and the judicial system that allowed this to happen.
Don't let them get away with murder too.
There was mention of

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Jun 25, 2011
Impartial wrote:
Boy talk about the good ole boys club. Farmington politicians are a bunch of crooks, using the system (or bypassing the system) for their own personal gain.
Everyone involved in that boy skirting the system should be tried as acessories, because this would not have happened if he went through the system, as he should have.
These parents knew this person(I do not consider him a kid) was a ticking time bomb, and still they decided to skirt the system and handle it themselves, resulting in the death of the doctor.
If it wasn't the doctor it would have been someone else.
This case needs to be investigated inside out and although suing won't bring back the doctor it will sure make it hard on the people running Farmington and the judicial system that allowed this to happen.
Don't let them get away with murder too.
the possibility that the parents were away on a float trip when this happened, although I haven't seen anything else to that effect. Wonder why this wasn't mentioned, if true
Just sayin

Farmington, NM

#7 Jun 25, 2011
Geez wrote:
I said it once and I'll say it again, everyone involved in allowing this kid to go to Roswell to the military institute instead of having to go through the system like any other juvenile should lose their jobs. I don't care how far up the totum pole they are. City Manager, Police Chief, District Attorney, Fortner and on down the line.
Jack Fortner is a private attorney. They don't lose their jobs.
Reader

Kayenta, AZ

#8 Jun 25, 2011
While obviously unfathomably tragic if true, this is the first I've seen mention that perhaps the root of young Mr Mayes' problems is having been abused in the Ukraine before his adoption from there. Let's all be careful to be sure we're not blaming his possible mental illness and violent, murderous behavior on having been adopted -- it goes without saying that most people who are adopted and most people who have been abused as children do not go on to commit atrocities.
you are a late comer

Albuquerque, NM

#9 Jun 25, 2011
Reader wrote:
While obviously unfathomably tragic if true, this is the first I've seen mention that perhaps the root of young Mr Mayes' problems is having been abused in the Ukraine before his adoption from there. Let's all be careful to be sure we're not blaming his possible mental illness and violent, murderous behavior on having been adopted -- it goes without saying that most people who are adopted and most people who have been abused as children do not go on to commit atrocities.
to the story then, because it came out very early on, I'd say immediately that this young man came from an abusive past in a Ukraine orphanage. They have tried to spin it to blame it all on that from the beginning, although I think most people realize that this isn't an excuse for murder by any stretch of the imagination.
Ftown011

San Jose, CA

#10 Jun 25, 2011
I heard on my scanner that there was an escape last sunday night from the juvenile detention building where John Mayes is housed. There also were cops all over wildflower area. I dont think it was mayes and the kid was caught but why did the Daily times not cover this story???

I emailed the daily times the next day for more information and they didnt reply so they definitely knew about it. Is this some cover up or just incompetence from our "news" paper?? Was i just hearing things that night?

anyone have more info on this?
just the fax

Las Cruces, NM

#11 Jun 25, 2011
The blame most likely is Rob Mayes manipulation of the system because Rob mayes is a high profile local and projects himself out to be holier than thou. Was Rob Mayes corrupt before he became City Manager?
Print the whole story

Ignacio, CO

#12 Jun 25, 2011
Ftown011 wrote:
I heard on my scanner that there was an escape last sunday night from the juvenile detention building where John Mayes is housed. There also were cops all over wildflower area. I dont think it was mayes and the kid was caught but why did the Daily times not cover this story???
I emailed the daily times the next day for more information and they didnt reply so they definitely knew about it. Is this some cover up or just incompetence from our "news" paper?? Was i just hearing things that night?
anyone have more info on this?
Yes there was an escape, another kid just climbed the fence and took off again. Several hours went by before the staff noticed he was missing.
I knew it

Placitas, NM

#13 Jun 25, 2011
I heard that there was two kids that jumped the fence.
Geez

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Jun 25, 2011
Just sayin wrote:
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Jack Fortner is a private attorney. They don't lose their jobs.
Yeah, I know but he's included in the list of needing to be sued by the Nordstrum family. The district attny. Ric Tedrow used to work for Fortner so you know there was some wheelin' & dealin' being done.
Jesse

Santa Fe, NM

#15 Jun 25, 2011
Just sayin wrote:
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Jack Fortner is a private attorney. They don't lose their jobs.
But could he loose his prestigious postion with the UNM Board of Regents?
Geez

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Jun 25, 2011
Print the whole story wrote:
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Yes there was an escape, another kid just climbed the fence and took off again. Several hours went by before the staff noticed he was missing.
Hahahaha!!! Lololol!!! Another "staff member" sitting in the control pod asleep Traci? OMG!!! The Sheriff needs to take both the adult and juvenile jails back and staff it himself w/o Havel, Stark, Calhoun, McMuffintop and Traci. Make it a proving ground for potential deputies and I think you may get some people working there who have something to look forward to beside watching criminals the rest of their lives and who may try to keep the criminals inside the fence. lol!!
Geez

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Jun 25, 2011
Well, I hope one of them wasn't Jose' Garcia, the one that killed the baby Teagan by stomping her. He's being held at the jail for his new trial.
WTH

Santa Fe, NM

#18 Jun 25, 2011
Where has Mayes Jr. been since March and under whose supervision?
Also, since the Juvenile Detention Center can't seem to keep the little delinquents "inside" the fence, why the bleep is a murderer being held there? Mayes needs to be at the Adult Detention Center before he climbs over the fence.
hondo

Farmington, NM

#19 Jun 25, 2011
It appears injustice has been committed on the part of an obvious grossly incompetent detention administration and staff for another escape which coincides with the juvnenile probation office. it pays to have a high price attorney and adopted daddy pimpin the juvenile probation office staff. while our indigent kids do not receive the same preferential treatment. the juvenile probation office failed miserably. RIP Dr. Nordstrum.
WTH

Santa Fe, NM

#20 Jun 25, 2011
Geez wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha!!! Lololol!!! Another "staff member" sitting in the control pod asleep Traci? OMG!!! The Sheriff needs to take both the adult and juvenile jails back and staff it himself w/o Havel, Stark, Calhoun, McMuffintop and Traci. Make it a proving ground for potential deputies and I think you may get some people working there who have something to look forward to beside watching criminals the rest of their lives and who may try to keep the criminals inside the fence. lol!!
Ya, just beat the inmates with flashlights, that's all there is to it. Our new sheriff has plenty of staffing issues to handle already without taking on the jails. But the first part of your post is pretty funny and I agree!
So Sad

United States

#21 Jun 25, 2011
It's just so sad. If Rob Mayes would have just let the system do it's job, a wonderful human being wouldn't have had to die so brutally, and John Mayes likely wouldn't be looking at life in prison. I cannot imagine the guilt Mr. Mayes must be feeling. Or SHOULD be feeling. As I see it, he is the most guilty of all.

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