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With uproar in Cobb school, Georgia may pull lesson about Islam

There are 29 comments on the The Atlanta Journal-Constitution story from Oct 1, 2011, titled With uproar in Cobb school, Georgia may pull lesson about Islam. In it, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that:

A controversial lesson that some say presents Islam in an uncritical light may soon be pulled from the list of state-approved educational materials ...

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Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Oct 1, 2011
from The Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"State school Superintendent John Barge told Channel 2 that the lesson was approved before he took office, and he would not have allowed it to be sent home with students for an assignment on dress codes. Nor, he added, was it appropriate for middle school students.

"'When you start passing judgment on one culture or one religion being more appropriate, and especially criticizing our own culture as being wrong, that’s going too far,' Barge said."
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#2 Oct 1, 2011
The children of America should be taught the truth about Islam. They should know that it is a hateful, ugly ideology that preaches death and destruction for all competing religions and cultures. They should be taught that Islam sanctions torture and killing. Good lessons would include "honor" killing, suicide bombing, airline hijacking. Notable events highlighted could include 9/11/01, the Beslan Massacre, the London and Madrid bombings, the siege in Mumbai, the murder of the Fogel family, the attack at the '72 Olympics.....It should be made clear that Islam is the biggest, most dangerous fraud ever perpetrated on the human race and that the "prophet" was a mass murdering, lying, sexually deviant, thieving terrorist sociopath.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#3 Oct 1, 2011
Faith wrote:
The children of America should be taught the truth about Islam. They should know that it is a hateful, ugly ideology that preaches death and destruction for all competing religions and cultures. They should be taught that Islam sanctions torture and killing. Good lessons would include "honor" killing, suicide bombing, airline hijacking. Notable events highlighted could include 9/11/01, the Beslan Massacre, the London and Madrid bombings, the siege in Mumbai, the murder of the Fogel family, the attack at the '72 Olympics.....It should be made clear that Islam is the biggest, most dangerous fraud ever perpetrated on the human race and that the "prophet" was a mass murdering, lying, sexually deviant, thieving terrorist sociopath.
And it should be pointed out that Christianity can be perceived the same way from this point in time.
http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities....

Arguably, from an unbiased point of view, Islamic countries today, such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia lack literacies and freedoms the West has now developed and enjoyed over the last few centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:16th-ce...

Children should be taught about all gods and religions equally.
http://www.godchecker.com/

Let Imams give them lessons on the various sects of Islam and Christian theologians do the same for Christianity.

Bhuddish and Humanist philosophies should also be introduced to the young so that they are aware that religious beliefs are not compulsory - and not considered desirable by many people. Dialectics (or the failure thereof), rhetoric and logic might also be outlined; as might various philosophies.

Most religion is still parent-given and often reinforced by the local culture, in and out of school.

Best to have no religious discrimination in Schools - and little time expended on it.
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#4 Oct 1, 2011
It's too bad that England chose, out of some sense of guilt, to allow all of those wretched, filthy Asians settle in their country. Hopefully, the day will come when they are rounded up and put on a leaky boat back to Pakistan....where they belong.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#5 Oct 1, 2011
The British are certainly on guard against Muslim backwardness. Muslims are disproportionately represented in Britain’s prison population. Ironically, the greatest danger may be from the legalisation of Faith Schools.(UK currently has a Christian Prime Minister).

From:
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk/Arti...
State funded Muslim schools need Muslim teachers. Highly qualified teachers can be recruited from Muslim countries for the teaching of National Curriculum, Islamic Studies, Arabic and Urdu languages so that Muslim children do not find themselves cut off from their cultural and linguistic roots. The study of Comparative religions is not required because Islam teaches respect, tolerance and understanding of those who are different from them.(Unquote).

And Mr Ahmed means what he says. He doesn’t like many British Muslim teachers and actually wants segregated (my word for it) Muslims schools where teachers are brought in from S E Asia to teach children in Urdu and other Asian languages. He sees British and Western culture as corrupting and decadent.

This and many other problems are widely acknowledged and publicised. The UK public reaction is not one of fear though, but of self-confidence. Muslims are only 4 or 5 per cent of the population. There are ghettos of concern.

This gentleman is probably more representative of British Muslims, in my personal experience..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5144526.stm
Power of the Gospel

United States

#6 Oct 1, 2011
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
And it should be pointed out that Christianity can be perceived the same way from this point in time.
http://notachristian.org/christianatrocities....
Arguably, from an unbiased point of view, Islamic countries today, such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia lack literacies and freedoms the West has now developed and enjoyed over the last few centuries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:16th-ce...
Children should be taught about all gods and religions equally.
http://www.godchecker.com/
Let Imams give them lessons on the various sects of Islam and Christian theologians do the same for Christianity.
Bhuddish and Humanist philosophies should also be introduced to the young so that they are aware that religious beliefs are not compulsory - and not considered desirable by many people. Dialectics (or the failure thereof), rhetoric and logic might also be outlined; as might various philosophies.
Most religion is still parent-given and often reinforced by the local culture, in and out of school.
Best to have no religious discrimination in Schools - and little time expended on it.
By the same token they should be taught the Humanist religion from the same unbaised standpoint. The aspects of evolution that are demonstable should be taught as such, and that the rest is merely a matter of faith.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#7 Oct 1, 2011
Power of the Gospel wrote:
<quoted text> By the same token they should be taught the Humanist religion from the same unbaised standpoint. The aspects of evolution that are demonstable should be taught as such, and that the rest is merely a matter of faith.
http://www.americanhumanist.org/Who_We_Are/Ab...
Humanism has nothing to do with faith and it is not a religion. It is based on universal human values, reason and evidence.

Evolution is part of any good science curriculum and has nothing to do with religion either.
Power of the Gospel

United States

#8 Oct 1, 2011
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.americanhumanist.org/Who_We_Are/Ab...
Humanism has nothing to do with faith and it is not a religion. It is based on universal human values, reason and evidence.
Evolution is part of any good science curriculum and has nothing to do with religion either.
Parts of Evolution are. Natural selection is. Beneficial mutations? Not so much. And humanism seems as much faith based to me as theism.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#9 Oct 1, 2011
Power of the Gospel wrote:
<quoted text> ... And humanism seems as much faith based to me as theism.
Humanism is defined as a rejection of faith. As I say, it is simply any philosophy or approach to life based on human values, reason and evidence. To quote from the link I offered above, "Humanism encompasses a variety of nontheistic views (atheism, agnosticism, rationalism, naturalism, secularism, and so forth).." Unquote.

By faith, I mean beliefs unsupported by evidence, such as the various 'good books' being the word of a god (which is an act of faith), as opposed to them being old books written by men (which is reason-based).

Religionists tend to talk of god as if they know what "he" is.
Power of the Gospel

United States

#10 Oct 1, 2011
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
Humanism is defined as a rejection of faith. As I say, it is simply any philosophy or approach to life based on human values, reason and evidence. To quote from the link I offered above, "Humanism encompasses a variety of nontheistic views (atheism, agnosticism, rationalism, naturalism, secularism, and so forth).." Unquote.
By faith, I mean beliefs unsupported by evidence, such as the various 'good books' being the word of a god (which is an act of faith), as opposed to them being old books written by men (which is reason-based).
Religionists tend to talk of god as if they know what "he" is.
And humanists tend to talk of the material world as if they knew what it is. A nano second before the big bang something amazing existed in what should have been infinite nothing. It exploded, and now, it has turned chaos into order and resulted in moral consciousness. But you KNOW God isn't? There's faith involved in humanism too. Religion is simply weltschaung. Sorry, not trying to be an ass.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#11 Oct 2, 2011
Thanks PoftheG. A pleasure to meet you.

We share an understanding of what the material world is from the dictionary and context of a sentence..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/material
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world
That has nothing to do with religion.

The Big Bang is a scientific theory which is challenged and debated. It has nothing to do with religion.

Humanists generally agree that humanism requires no faith whatsoever. Most insist faith be positively rejected.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/humanism
http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php...

“You know God isn’t”? Well, most atheists or agnostics take the view that even the most ardent religionists offer no scientific proof of god.

Nor can religionists agree on exactly what “he” is.('He' is obtained from the good books). Even if there were some creator of the Universe, why have different religions based on good books? Religion is divisive and even irrelevant to a creator.

But the real difference between us is the way we think. To understand how an atheist thinks one has to conceive of a world without religion at all. Then compare it to one with religions.

Personally, when I say ‘I don’t believe in God’, I mean that despite being brought up a Catholic; regular attendance at Chapel; spending hours reading the Bible and learning my Catechism; and having patient discussions with sincere and intelligent people like you - I still see no more evidence that there is a god than there are pixies, or fairies. First, define a god in scientific terms and then prove there is a god (or a pixie) and I can change my mind instantly (well, after due consideration). That is one beauty and advantage of being free from religion. I only believe anything so far as evidence and reason support doing so. I do not assert there is no god in the sense that religionists assert that there is one; (and they know how to worship him because the good book tells us?:-)

Religion can be very divisive and there is no advantage to teaching it to children. Faith, like hatred, has to be carefully taught.
Amelia

Tucson, AZ

#12 Oct 2, 2011
Faith is correct in that Americans need to be aware of the hatred most Muslims profess which comes from their faith. Our children should be warned so they won't be brainwashed as Muslim children are, and grow up to be jihadists and evil doers.

Sharia law has absolutely no place in America or other Western culture. If Muslims in Islamic culture want to live in a backward, 7th century way that doesn't progress to the current milennia, and they wish to continue to beat and repress women, kill family members who question the Qur'an, and kill others who disagree with Islam (even other Muslims), it's a sad commentary on life by humans.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, should Western society and countries be subject to being influenced IN ANY WAY by Muslims and Sharia law. We have our own system of law and if Muslims don't like it, THEY need to change to our society and follow our rules.

If they refuse to comply with our laws, they should go back to Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any other Islamic country and continue their degrading, despicable way of life and treating women as lesser than animals.

Women in Islamic countries should revolt en masse to change how their men treat men. Otherwise, they will continue to be abused, killed, and kept in the lowest life form realm forever. Is that what they REALLY want to pass on to their children? To show girls they have no value and to show boys how to treat girls/women as though they had a lower status than pigs and goats?
Power of the Gospel

United States

#13 Oct 2, 2011
EdSed wrote:
Thanks PoftheG. A pleasure to meet you.
We share an understanding of what the material world is from the dictionary and context of a sentence..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/material
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world
That has nothing to do with religion.
The Big Bang is a scientific theory which is challenged and debated. It has nothing to do with religion.
Humanists generally agree that humanism requires no faith whatsoever. Most insist faith be positively rejected.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/humanism
http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php...
“You know God isn’t”? Well, most atheists or agnostics take the view that even the most ardent religionists offer no scientific proof of god.
Nor can religionists agree on exactly what “he” is.('He' is obtained from the good books). Even if there were some creator of the Universe, why have different religions based on good books? Religion is divisive and even irrelevant to a creator.
But the real difference between us is the way we think. To understand how an atheist thinks one has to conceive of a world without religion at all. Then compare it to one with religions.
Personally, when I say ‘I don’t believe in God’, I mean that despite being brought up a Catholic; regular attendance at Chapel; spending hours reading the Bible and learning my Catechism; and having patient discussions with sincere and intelligent people like you - I still see no more evidence that there is a god than there are pixies, or fairies. First, define a god in scientific terms and then prove there is a god (or a pixie) and I can change my mind instantly (well, after due consideration). That is one beauty and advantage of being free from religion. I only believe anything so far as evidence and reason support doing so. I do not assert there is no god in the sense that religionists assert that there is one; (and they know how to worship him because the good book tells us?:-)
Religion can be very divisive and there is no advantage to teaching it to children. Faith, like hatred, has to be carefully taught.
Good to meet you to. Imagine worldview as a water molecule. One of the ears of worldview is religion the other is humanism. Maybe you see a difference, I see them very similar. The "whatever" usually called the big bang, was initiated by a "singularity." Science then was started by a "singularity." If th material world was started thusly, every phlosophical conclusion you make about it is speculation. You really don't know. Hence, I see humanism at least very similar to religion.
On the other hand, God has the right to reveal Himself as He wishes. If through science, He can, but only if He wishes. As the singularity behind science, He is greater than it, and does not have to be obsevable to it.
1 Corinthians 1 addresses this very point:
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

God reveals Himself personally to individuals, not generally to scientifical scrutiny.

Jesus said something similar in John 14:
22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

This is all bogus, unless it is experiential. And it is. While there is the ridiculous among us, there is also the real experience of God.
I began to experience God personally when I was seventeen.
Power of the Gospel

United States

#14 Oct 2, 2011
Don Sears spiritual singularity:

Like most Northwesterners, Don Sears was not an atheist.  He thought there might be a God somewhere, but didn’t think there was anything we could know about Him for sure.  He resented Christians who talked about Jesus Christ, and told them there was no difference between Bible stories and comic books.  Don, however has a serious problem with rage and violence.  As a young man growing up in Alaska, his idea of a good time was going to the Indian part of town, finding a big Indian, and provoking him to a fight.  He was possessed by a fury that would flash at little or no provocation.  It would erupt in him like a volcano, and would not be satisfied until he or his opponent lay bleeding and broken on the floor.  His rages were so intense that sometimes he could not remember what had happened after he blew up.  He was this way for over thirty years, and said it got to the point that he liked the feeling of bones breaking under his fists.  He became involved with a business, and began studying their manuals on salesmanship.  To his surprise he discovered that they used principles out of the Bible, and he began to wonder about the Bible.  One Sunday he went to what he thought was a business meeting in Portland, Oregon, and was surprised to discover that it was actually a church service.  He was even more surprised that he didn’t walk out in disgust, but listened to the message.  At the end of the service during the altar call Don felt an undeniable urge to go to the front and accept Jesus Christ as his Savior. Don, the angry agnostic walked down the aisle and genuinely gave his heart to Jesus Christ.
           Years later I asked Don what it was that convinced him that this was real, and not just some emotional experience.  He told me that the following week he was provoked by someone in a manner that had always caused him to erupt in a fury.  This time, strangely, he did not get mad.  He said he was surprised as he walked away, that he hadn’t beaten the daylights out of the fellow, but he just didn’t get mad.  In fact, he told me, as time went on he discovered that he couldn’t get mad at people anymore.  It was like someone had turned off a switch in his heart.  He could still get mad at his car when it wouldn’t start, but not at people.  Also, for all his life he had wanted nothing to do with Jesus Christ, Christians, church, the Bible, prayer, or anything “religious.”  Now he discovered that his core likes and dislikes had been reversed, seemingly overnight.  He wanted to know Jesus, pray to him, read the Bible, and amazingly he found he now loved being around Christians who genuinely loved the Lord Jesus Christ.  This has been over twenty-five years ago, the rage has never returned, and his love for Jesus has never left him.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#15 Oct 2, 2011
To Amelia..
Here,
http://religionclause.blogspot.com/2011/04/ma...
a Jewish court’s ruling seemed to over-rule a pre-nup agreement. I think Amish and Mormon courts exist, hear voluntary submissions and have limited jurisdictions too and (in theory) are subject to US national laws.

Aren’t most US Muslims hard working and honest?
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/feat...

PoftheG says that there are the ridiculous amongst us...

http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
And Reps apparently boo’d a gay soldier at the rep presidential candidate debate recently.

I think all religious thinking is divisive and potentially dangerous. Children should not be taught that their religion makes them different from each other.

To PoftheG.
Thanks for Don's story and your kind reply.

(Incidentally, most humanists aren’t Humanists, capital H).

So you still think humanism is like a religion and you cannot define or prove god. Nothing to suggest that your beliefs come from anything but the good book and ‘feelings’.

For me, religion is superstition; unsupported by evidence; & potentially bitterly divisive.

Children get along perfectly well if unsegregated and not taught they’re in different tribes with their parents’ prejudices.

Feral children may also contain a lesson..
http://listverse.com/2008/03/07/10-modern-cas...
Apparently, if children do not learn human language by age 7 or 8, they are unable to develop human language at all. As the Jesuits said,“Give me a boy under 7...”
Paul WV

Rocky Mount, NC

#16 Oct 2, 2011
EdSed wrote:
Thanks PoftheG. A pleasure to meet you.
We share an understanding of what the material world is from the dictionary and context of a sentence..
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/material
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/world
That has nothing to do with religion.
The Big Bang is a scientific theory which is challenged and debated. It has nothing to do with religion.
Humanists generally agree that humanism requires no faith whatsoever. Most insist faith be positively rejected.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/humanism
http://www.catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php...
“You know God isn’t”? Well, most atheists or agnostics take the view that even the most ardent religionists offer no scientific proof of god.
Nor can religionists agree on exactly what “he” is.('He' is obtained from the good books). Even if there were some creator of the Universe, why have different religions based on good books? Religion is divisive and even irrelevant to a creator.
But the real difference between us is the way we think. To understand how an atheist thinks one has to conceive of a world without religion at all. Then compare it to one with religions.
Personally, when I say ‘I don’t believe in God’, I mean that despite being brought up a Catholic; regular attendance at Chapel; spending hours reading the Bible and learning my Catechism; and having patient discussions with sincere and intelligent people like you - I still see no more evidence that there is a god than there are pixies, or fairies. First, define a god in scientific terms and then prove there is a god (or a pixie) and I can change my mind instantly (well, after due consideration). That is one beauty and advantage of being free from religion. I only believe anything so far as evidence and reason support doing so. I do not assert there is no god in the sense that religionists assert that there is one; (and they know how to worship him because the good book tells us?:-)
Religion can be very divisive and there is no advantage to teaching it to children. Faith, like hatred, has to be carefully taught.
Which religions togay teach intolerance and hatred towards those of a faith other then their own? I am not asking what religion whose adherents have committed atrocities towards others but which ones teach hatred towards those of another faith?
Power of the Gospel

United States

#17 Oct 2, 2011
EdSed wrote:
To Amelia..
Here,
http://religionclause.blogspot.com/2011/04/ma...
a Jewish court’s ruling seemed to over-rule a pre-nup agreement. I think Amish and Mormon courts exist, hear voluntary submissions and have limited jurisdictions too and (in theory) are subject to US national laws.
Aren’t most US Muslims hard working and honest?
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/feat...
PoftheG says that there are the ridiculous amongst us...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qP4h4WwX0NIXX
http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/ghwbush.h...
And Reps apparently boo’d a gay soldier at the rep presidential candidate debate recently.
I think all religious thinking is divisive and potentially dangerous. Children should not be taught that their religion makes them different from each other.
To PoftheG.
Thanks for Don's story and your kind reply.
(Incidentally, most humanists aren’t Humanists, capital H).
So you still think humanism is like a religion and you cannot define or prove god. Nothing to suggest that your beliefs come from anything but the good book and ‘feelings’.
For me, religion is superstition; unsupported by evidence; & potentially bitterly divisive.
Children get along perfectly well if unsegregated and not taught they’re in different tribes with their parents’ prejudices.
Feral children may also contain a lesson..
http://listverse.com/2008/03/07/10-modern-cas...
Apparently, if children do not learn human language by age 7 or 8, they are unable to develop human language at all. As the Jesuits said,“Give me a boy under 7...”
Religion is divisive, so is irreligion. Any dogmatic worldview statement is so. Communists aren't sweet and kind to religion. Anyway, God bless you. I hope you meet Him someday - its quite wonderful.
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#18 Oct 2, 2011
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
Which religions togay teach intolerance and hatred towards those of a faith other then their own? I am not asking what religion whose adherents have committed atrocities towards others but which ones teach hatred towards those of another faith?
Zionists of the Jewish faith, perhaps?

And I have given links above showing that there is a certain amount of intolerance apparently coming from a general and a former President. Right-wing Christians?

I don't think that faiths or religions teach intolerance and hatred deliberately. It is the tribalism inherent in them and seudo-ideology connected to them that seem more at the root of the intolerance. Perhaps fear plays a role too - fear of 'them'?

In the case of Muslims, ignorance plays is part of the problem. Fareed Zakaria recently pointed out the low literacy rates of the Arab world and that only 300 books were translated per annum in all 22 countries of the Arab League. Five times fewer than translated in Greece. 75% of people in the region (Mid-East) think there were no Arabs involved in 9/11. There are the cases of boys in Northern Pakistan where literacy rates can be below 30% and they are really only taught the Quran, patriotism and about the 'Great Satan'.

None of that explains phenomenon like the educated 9/11 terrorists or the home-grown 7/7 bombers. That seems to have been motivated by the ideological and tribal aspects of the Muslim religion - as was the Fort Hood attack. Disaffected people who feel alienated from our society and that their first loyalty is to their faith.

Adherence to a good book can be a terrible thing.

Me, I like Yes Prime Minister. Informative & funny.
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog... #
The Simpsons can be insightful too. US TV comedies are great!
EdSed

Shotts, UK

#19 Oct 2, 2011
Power of the Gospel wrote:
<quoted text> Religion is divisive, so is irreligion. Any dogmatic worldview statement is so. Communists aren't sweet and kind to religion. Anyway, God bless you. I hope you meet Him someday - its quite wonderful.
Thanks very much PoftheG. I greatly appreciate your contributions and this good natured exchange of views.

Irreligion did not cause Communism. Communists were officially without religion, but it was their extreme and intolerant socialist ideology they felt motivated to bring to us - to overcome 'wicked' capitalism. The three causes of human conflict appear to me to be religion, nationalism and ideology. Try getting people to have a war without them.

Best wishes to you.
Paul WV

Rocky Mount, NC

#20 Oct 2, 2011
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>
Zionists of the Jewish faith, perhaps?
And I have given links above showing that there is a certain amount of intolerance apparently coming from a general and a former President. Right-wing Christians?
I don't think that faiths or religions teach intolerance and hatred deliberately. It is the tribalism inherent in them and seudo-ideology connected to them that seem more at the root of the intolerance. Perhaps fear plays a role too - fear of 'them'?
In the case of Muslims, ignorance plays is part of the problem. Fareed Zakaria recently pointed out the low literacy rates of the Arab world and that only 300 books were translated per annum in all 22 countries of the Arab League. Five times fewer than translated in Greece. 75% of people in the region (Mid-East) think there were no Arabs involved in 9/11. There are the cases of boys in Northern Pakistan where literacy rates can be below 30% and they are really only taught the Quran, patriotism and about the 'Great Satan'.
None of that explains phenomenon like the educated 9/11 terrorists or the home-grown 7/7 bombers. That seems to have been motivated by the ideological and tribal aspects of the Muslim religion - as was the Fort Hood attack. Disaffected people who feel alienated from our society and that their first loyalty is to their faith.
Adherence to a good book can be a terrible thing.
Me, I like Yes Prime Minister. Informative & funny.
http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog... #
The Simpsons can be insightful too. US TV comedies are great!
The key word is "tribalism", and it is the cause of world troubles and not religion. Tribalism is a vestige of our evolution, survival of the fittest, and it made man the dominant species on earth. Jesus, and those religions close to God, have moved away from this tribalism, but it runs deep in human nature and after 2000 years since Jesus fulfilled the Law with love man is just beginning to live Jesus' true message of love. Modern islam is regressing to a time when man still lived according to the precepts of Social Darwinism.

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