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Novato schools fear legal dangers of lifesaving devices

There are 61 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Oct 20, 2010, titled Novato schools fear legal dangers of lifesaving devices. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

Novato school officials fear the risk of a lawsuit may outweigh the benefits of installing portable defibrillators at the city's high schools.

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Since: Apr 09

Marin County, CA

#2 Oct 20, 2010
HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE?

(We don't know--the Novato School Board isn't done yet....)

This "we might get sued, so we shouldn't do something that clearly saves lives" is a bizarre attitude.

I wonder which "chicken little" on the board is the one that really doesn't believe in AEDs, and is trying to find a way to derail their deployment?
Come on

San Martin, CA

#3 Oct 20, 2010
Puh-lease! I am so sick of making decisions based upon fear of lawsuit. I am a teacher myself and would love to be trained to use an AED if it meant I could save the life of a student or staff member (rather than watch helplessly). This doesn't even consider that training also means I'd be able to use an AED responsibly in any other setting out of work. I've seen one of these used and I'm pretty sure the machine walks the user through each step. Teachers are great at following instructions, almost as good as giving them!
good samaritan law

San Rafael, CA

#4 Oct 20, 2010
the good samaritan law should apply if training is attended and teachers act in gd faith...the real problem is the teachers union balks at teacher training for even legally mandated education.....
misfit

Novato, CA

#5 Oct 20, 2010
This is so ludicrous. Novato is in the dark ages and these people are supposed to be leaders?
I am so sick of everyone living in fear all the time. We are being held hostage by fear in this country. Fear of everything and everyone. It disgusts me!
misfit

Novato, CA

#6 Oct 20, 2010
These machines are so simple to use. They are fool proof. The machine will not activate unless the patient's condition calls for it. The machine lets you know. All you need to do is stay back when it activates and it even tells you when to do that. It's very simple to use and CPR classes often instruct on these as part of the course. They are found in restaurants and airports, why not schools. The trickiest part is placing the pads but, there are pictures on them showing where they go. The only problem I see potentially is vandals stealing them.

Since: Jun 10

Marin County

#7 Oct 20, 2010
Defibrillators for teenagers. What next, condom dispensers in nursing homes?
Peninsula Mom

Menlo Park, CA

#8 Oct 20, 2010
Come on wrote:
Puh-lease! I am so sick of making decisions based upon fear of lawsuit. I am a teacher myself and would love to be trained to use an AED if it meant I could save the life of a student or staff member (rather than watch helplessly). This doesn't even consider that training also means I'd be able to use an AED responsibly in any other setting out of work. I've seen one of these used and I'm pretty sure the machine walks the user through each step. Teachers are great at following instructions, almost as good as giving them!
Sounds like you are a teacher I want my kids learning from!
Peninsula Mom

Menlo Park, CA

#9 Oct 20, 2010
Rational approach wrote:
HOW STUPID CAN PEOPLE BE?
(We don't know--the Novato School Board isn't done yet....)
This "we might get sued, so we shouldn't do something that clearly saves lives" is a bizarre attitude.
I wonder which "chicken little" on the board is the one that really doesn't believe in AEDs, and is trying to find a way to derail their deployment?
Maybe they should survey the parents on this issue also. Enough with the hand wringing. Show some leadership.
Schools need new Leaders

San Rafael, CA

#10 Oct 20, 2010
This is the opposite of Community Service!!!

Dysfunction starts at the top.
Done in Novato

United States

#11 Oct 20, 2010
You people are idiots!

"Debbie Butler said. "But my decision has to be what is in the best interest of the district, and to make sure we're protected in some way.""
tramky

Vacaville, CA

#12 Oct 20, 2010
The concerns about legal liability are true & legitimate. Those on here who dismiss this issue are just clueless. I can guarantee you that the school officials are getting legal advice on this. You just need to educate yourself on the subject of tort law, and what happens in courtrooms and on juries deciding cases like those involving people who take medical actions in their own unlicensed hands. You've not LIVED until you're a defendant in a multi-million dollar lawsuit deriving from a 'good samaritan' situation.

See what happens if YOU use an AED and the victim does not survive, or ends up with brain damage due to the heart stopping for 30 seconds before the AED restarts it. The world is not kind to people who might be a hero except when something goes wrong--or turns out wrong.
Sanctuary City - SR

San Francisco, CA

#13 Oct 21, 2010
Sue them if someone loses their life due to NOT having the device on site!

This is one of the dumbest articles i've ever read. Shame on you, Novato.

Save that money for the "affordable," housing you provide to your illegal immigration population.
SR Gal

San Rafael, CA

#14 Oct 21, 2010
This is a sad commentary on our society. NHS has every right to be concerned about a frivolous lawsuit, because there are so many litigious people.

An AED is very simple to use, and it does save lives. Do the benefits outweigh the risks?

“"ERACISM in 2010"”

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#15 Oct 21, 2010
Trial lawyers are needed to protect victims against negligence
Brango

Washington, DC

#16 Oct 21, 2010
And Mrs. Clinton, your not worried about the lawsuit that is going to break the district's bank the first time one of your detainees errrr students breech your perimeter errrr sneak off campus and gets in a wreck?

You and your board need to resign post haste
Brango

Washington, DC

#17 Oct 21, 2010
ALL coaches are here by mandated to be certified in the administration of CPR and the use of the AED.

There, sporting event issue solved... moving on.

Since: Jul 09

Novato

#18 Oct 21, 2010
Bill E Goat wrote:
Defibrillators for teenagers. What next, condom dispensers in nursing homes?
Uhhhh.....The target is the teachers, many are 40+ years of age. They might need a defib to get the old ticker up and running again.
disgusted

Coyote, CA

#19 Oct 21, 2010
What a bunch of idiots. In the time in took to conduct this idiotic meeting everyone could have been trained on the defibrillator. All teachers, school administrators and coaches should be CPR certified. Day care providers are required =why not teachers. AED's are by and large idiot proof. This school board is an utter embarassment-take some responsibility for something. Use one of your teacher work days for something more meaningful than STAR testing and train your employees to save a life.
Catherine Rucker

United States

#20 Oct 21, 2010
During Public Comments on 9/21 I said, "The attorney and the insurance carrier want for the school staff members to be helpless and to only rely on local Emergency Medical Services - and this is unacceptable." Why is it ok to hire an EMT - with an AED unit - as standby for football games, and yet it is not necessary to provide the same protection for all other high school sports competition. And how about when the athletes are practicing? And how about when the students are exerting themselves during PE class? Why no protect everyone - from when the school opens to when the campus closes?

Since: Jun 10

Marin County

#21 Oct 21, 2010
Brango wrote:
And Mrs. Clinton, your not worried about the lawsuit that is going to break the district's bank the first time one of your detainees errrr students breech your perimeter errrr sneak off campus and gets in a wreck?You and your board need to resign post haste
Why should she worry about that? There would be no basis for a lawsuit if the school made a reasonable effort to keep kids on campus. They can send out letters, warn the students and parents, position employees outside to be vigilant and that would suffice. But the school can't be expected to build a moat or surround the campus with barbed wire. The school kids who are old enough to drive, as well as their parents, would need to shoulder some of the responsibility for keeping themselves on campus.

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