Editorial: Corte Madera pays high pri...

Editorial: Corte Madera pays high price for access lawsuit

There are 36 comments on the Marin Independent Journal story from Aug 1, 2010, titled Editorial: Corte Madera pays high price for access lawsuit. In it, Marin Independent Journal reports that:

CORTE MADERA, and any Marin town for that matter, has had ample warning that diligent progress toward removing obstacles for the disabled must be a local priority.

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Larkspur Mike

Antioch, CA

#23 Aug 5, 2010
Disabled Person wrote:
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But in reality, all those who oppose the settlement indeed bear ill will towards people with disabilities, who are a high percentage of the population--more than 20%. Please read the comment again: all of you who dislike the decision feel it's OK that a 20-year old law should not be enforced and that people who request reasonable accommodations ought to be barred from society.
Making the issue "whether the disabled have more rights than everyone else" is a clear misunderstanding of the circumstances and a bigoted and ignorant statement. Who is "everyone else?" People with disabilities number a large proportion if the population. It includes alcoholics. It includes people who have a hearing loss in only one ear. It includes many people who are seniors, ad that's a lot or Marin's people. As noted, any of you who are war vets with a prosthesis are included, and almost all vets have PTSD--they are included, too. BTW, the 70 year-old who wants some sort of easy way to get up El Capitan does not understand the law.
But enough about numbers and kinds of people. It's clear that the "everyone else" noted feel that, even if it's one person,the decision to keep that one person out of being involved is OK.
When one person is omitted, all are omitted.
Are you an alcoholic?
Free Lunch

San Rafael, CA

#24 Aug 5, 2010
Disabled Person wrote:
<quoted text>It's clear that the "everyone else" noted feel that, even if it's one person,the decision to keep that one person out of being involved is OK.
When one person is omitted, all are omitted.
No, it's about cost and benefit. Money does not grow on trees and there are many competing interests for those public funds. Where you get off discriminating against the 70 year old who has a desire to experience the top of half dome like other able-bodied people can? You don't understand the law either, but the lawyers sure do and 'reasonable accommodation' is a farce. The unfortunate evolution of the law is exactly as your last sentence states: If I can't do it then nobody else can either. And that is what gets so many pizzed off about the ADA - a good idea run amok.
John

San Rafael, CA

#25 Aug 5, 2010
Parasite bending reality to his expectations and making money off it at the same time.
If towns and municipalities can chose to opt out of following federal immigration law, indeed can actually work against it, why should hey have to obey the ADA?
Free Lunch

San Rafael, CA

#27 Aug 9, 2010
Disabled Person wrote:
Wow. Such hate of oneself directed outwards is a very powerful effect.
I've not mentioned undue burden as the counteracting balance of reasonable accommodation because it would probably make all of you all the more enraged. That the town did not claim such or did not win on such indicates they acceded to the judgement.
Re-read the previous entries from Disabled Person for a basic understanding of civil rights. The lengths that the anti-disabled go to in order to decry the decisions show at least a great lack of understanding of such, if not outright bigotry.
There's no discrimination against an "able-bodied" 70 year-old if they cannot reach the top of a mountain--that's absurd. It also raises the deep question--as I did before--of exactly who is a person with a disability.
And attacking the messenger doesn't wash--it shows you've lost the argument, especially when you attack someone who helped write the law.
What jibberish. No bigotry at all - just fiscal realities. It is apparent that your disability is mental.

“"In dog years, I'm dead."”

Since: Feb 08

Novato

#28 Aug 9, 2010
Free Lunch wrote:
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What jibberish. No bigotry at all - just fiscal realities. It is apparent that your disability is mental.
It's also about following the law, which in this case has not been done or there would be no story. I think this particular lawyer is a leech but you are coming off as very bigoted towards disabled although You don't intend too.
JeromeJGhigliott iJr

Morgan Hill, CA

#29 Feb 3, 2011
I find nowhere in the state or federal constitutions nor the 1964 Civil Rights Act that mandates that people who have high income and contribute proportionately to society must finance neighbors with low earning potential to live next to them. Corte Madera had the right idea. The California law is wrong. Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, otherwise surgeons and short order cooks would receive the same salaries, as Castro tried. Why do Marin residents vote for state officials who make these confiscatory laws?
JeromeJGhigliott iJr

Morgan Hill, CA

#30 Feb 3, 2011
I have no dispute with the disabled who were the intended subjects of ADA. I do object to people who are "disabled" because "people" hate them, and that makes them nervous. Alcoholism is best treated by institutionalization, and does not warrant taxpayer supported life-time dwelling support.
Ol Tea Bag Jim

San Rafael, CA

#31 Feb 3, 2011
JeromeJGhigliottiJr wrote:
I find nowhere in the state or federal constitutions nor the 1964 Civil Rights Act that mandates that people who have high income and contribute proportionately to society must finance neighbors with low earning potential to live next to them. Corte Madera had the right idea. The California law is wrong. Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, otherwise surgeons and short order cooks would receive the same salaries, as Castro tried. Why do Marin residents vote for state officials who make these confiscatory laws?
Just shut up. No one cares about you.
JeromeJGhigliott iJr

Morgan Hill, CA

#32 Feb 3, 2011
I am most pleased when someone has nothing to dispute about my logic, but still feels compelled not to read the words which I have written. What I wish upon that type of person is the kind of world which they desire.
Ol Tea Bag Jim

Novato, CA

#33 Feb 3, 2011
JeromeJGhigliottiJr wrote:
I am most pleased when someone has nothing to dispute about my logic, but still feels compelled not to read the words which I have written. What I wish upon that type of person is the kind of world which they desire.
"logic"? Are you serious, Jim? I have never read anything even remotely logical that comes from you. In fact, I think most of what you say and do is, in fact, very illogical.

“Taste great in milk!”

Since: Aug 08

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#34 Feb 3, 2011
^ R A C I S T !
Nexra Blevins

San Anselmo, CA

#36 Feb 5, 2011
Didn't you know theres a public wheelchair accessible ramp built on the backside of El Capitan or Totockahnoolah. You start at Yosemite Village and go up the Merced river on Northside drive to the entrance of the ramp. Great wheelchair country.
Nexra Blevins

San Anselmo, CA

#37 Feb 5, 2011
Straight Thinker wrote:
To Cave Man: It has nothing to do with simple access. That's already available. Your argument suggests that everyone is entitled to whatever it takes to make all places accessible to all people. I suppose that means I should be able to demand that publicly funded resources be made available to take me to the top of El Capitan and Half Dome, since I'm a 70-year-old woman who can't get up there on her own. Get real!
Of course you can get up there its easy. Theres a public wheelchair accessible ramp built on the backside of El Capitan or Totockahnoolah. You start at Yosemite Village and go up the Merced river on Northside drive to the entrance of the ramp. It only cost 23 Million dollars to construct.

Great wheelchair country.
Nexra Blevins

San Anselmo, CA

#38 Feb 5, 2011
Ol Tea Bag Jim wrote:
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"logic"? Are you serious, Jim? I have never read anything even remotely logical that comes from you. In fact, I think most of what you say and do is, in fact, very illogical.
Is Ol Tea Bag Jim in reality that certain someone called Marin Jim?

YOu both are extremely illogical.
ADA4U2

Glendale, CA

#39 Sep 3, 2011
Skaff is an angry man that is disabled and is going to make everyone around him pay. His motivation is not access compliance its mental pain and he has foud his stage the citizens pockets are deep and that is what he is really after. I have watched him first hand as he goes town to town making demands and presenting his view of ADA which is not accurate but the scare tatics he uses works. He isn't very smart and when challenged he can't hold up to the conversation, he makes innacurate accuzations without investigating and makes himself look foolish yet people listen to him because its the ADA. Anyone can sue anyone else, the ADA needs to get cleaned up to keep people like Skaff who are not really in it for accessibily out of the game. Someone needs to challenge this guy instead of paying the extortion money. Its all about the money isn't it Skaff! yes! it is isn't it! You said "I have costs associated with my work. It isn't work, its crime your involved with. I am disabled and you give us a bad name, we don't wnat your kind of help! Find a hill in SF and point yourself toward the ocean.... it would be a good start.
BGHOZ

Santa Rosa, CA

#40 Sep 4, 2011
Larkspur Mike wrote:
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Are you an alcoholic?
Probably.....

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